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Hendrik Maryns

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Jul 8, 2012, 4:50:19 AM7/8/12
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Hi all,

I am surprised nobody else has shouted their happiness here. TL 2012
is available, as I found out by optimistically invoking ?tlmg update
- --all? this morning (CET).

Thanks for the great work!

I had one error message though:

This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
`euptex -ini -jobname=euptex -progname=euptex *euptex.ini' failed

Have fun, H.
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Uwe Siart

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Jul 8, 2012, 5:31:43 AM7/8/12
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Hendrik Maryns <hen...@hendrikmaryns.name> writes:

> TL 2012 is available, as I found out by optimistically invoking ?tlmg
> update --all? this morning (CET).

So did you upgrade from TL2011 to TL2012? AFAIK this is still not
recommended. The main reason is (again AFAIK) that updmap-sys now
supports per-tree updmap.cfg files. After upgrade from 11 to 12 there
remains a conflict between old and new updmap.cfg that might break the
system.

I'm not at all grounded in TL development but that's what I've read
along in the TL mailing list.

PS: I also wonder why tlmgr conducted the update at all. Did you fiddle
around with the release date in config files?

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Hendrik Maryns

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Jul 8, 2012, 6:12:51 AM7/8/12
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Op 08-07-12 11:31, Uwe Siart schreef:
Nope, for a few weeks I got an announcement that TL2011 was frozen
forever and that a new release was due out soon. The announcement was
unclear on whether it would happen per update of otherwise. So from
time to time I tried to update to see what would happen, and checked
the site also. This morning, I got another message, namely, that an
update to tlmgr itself was available and I had to use ‘tlmg update
- --self’. After doing that, I was able to update --all and it worked.

Just did some testing and everything works fine, using XeLaTeX. I do
not use euptex.

Cheers, H.
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Une Bévue

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Jul 8, 2012, 9:00:20 AM7/8/12
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Le 08/07/12 10:50, Hendrik Maryns a écrit :
> I am surprised nobody else has shouted their happiness here. TL 2012
> is available
I've installed yesterday TL 2011 in my home on Ubuntu 12.04.

It lies in ~/texlive/2011

I'd like having TL 2012 put it in ~/texlive/2012
without having the need (has yesterday) to use a DVD.

What is the procedure to get it that way ?

Beware I've also a somehow "TL 2009" coming with automatic install of
LyX (at the time I've installed Xubuntu / Voyager).
However various PATHes are settled correctly, i believe, may be not the
one, if exist for texmf because yesterday I've seen xelatex writing some
/usr/local txmf files, not the one under HOME.

Notice I allready use, since yesterday, TL 2012 on another computer
running Mac OS X Lion, looks really great !


Uwe Siart

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Jul 8, 2012, 10:53:48 AM7/8/12
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Une Bévue <unbewu...@fai.invalid> writes:

> What is the procedure to get it that way ?

Instructions for net install can be found here:

<http://tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html>

You may want to wait another day or two until all CTAN mirrors received
the TL2012 release in tlnet.

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Uwe

Une Bévue

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Jul 8, 2012, 12:51:22 PM7/8/12
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Le 08/07/12 16:53, Uwe Siart a écrit :
> Instructions for net install can be found here:
>
> <http://tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html>
>
> You may want to wait another day or two until all CTAN mirrors received
> the TL2012 release in tlnet.

OK, I'll wait one or two days, I'll like to download the iso file, i
think it's better than net install because I'm under WiFi...

Uwe Siart

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Jul 8, 2012, 1:12:03 PM7/8/12
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Une Bévue <unbewu...@fai.invalid> writes:

> I'll like to download the iso file,

The ISO images are not yet on CTAN (2011 images still there). Just check
when they will be released (soon, I expect).

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Christian Anders

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Jul 8, 2012, 1:08:01 PM7/8/12
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Une Bévue <unbewu...@fai.invalid> wrote:
> OK, I'll wait one or two days, I'll like to download the iso file, i
> think it's better than net install because I'm under WiFi...

My connection is pretty good, but far from perfect and netinst works
fine. I'd give netinst a try ;)

Robin Fairbairns

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Jul 8, 2012, 3:44:59 PM7/8/12
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and you need a pretty stable connection to download it: for 2011, the
image is 2431731712 bytes, and the new version is likely to be a bit
bigger. do you often download 2.5 gbyte files? -- i certainly don't; i
leave it to the archive, and then install the files one by one.
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sorry about all this posting. i'll go back to sleep in a bit.

Christine Roemer

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Jul 9, 2012, 2:36:26 AM7/9/12
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Am 08.07.2012 21:44, schrieb Robin Fairbairns:

> and you need a pretty stable connection to download it: for 2011, the
> image is 2431731712 bytes, and the new version is likely to be a bit
> bigger. do you often download 2.5 gbyte files? -- i certainly don't; i
> leave it to the archive, and then install the files one by one.

Is it possible to do an upgrade from TeX Live 2011 to 2012?
Existing for that an instruction?

Christine


Marcus Frings

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Jul 9, 2012, 3:54:32 AM7/9/12
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* Christine Roemer <Christin...@t-online.de> wrote:

> Is it possible to do an upgrade from TeX Live 2011 to 2012?
> Existing for that an instruction?

http://www.tug.org/texlive/upgrade.html

Gruß,
Marcus
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Lars Madsen

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Jul 9, 2012, 4:05:43 AM7/9/12
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Marcus Frings wrote, On 2012-07-09 09:54:
> * Christine Roemer <Christin...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to do an upgrade from TeX Live 2011 to 2012?
>> Existing for that an instruction?
>
> http://www.tug.org/texlive/upgrade.html
>
> Gruß,
> Marcus

now I'm wondering at bit, if one has to do all that, then why does just
running

tlmgr update --all --self

seem to be enough on Unix?

I just tried it on a test laptop, seems to run ok.

Are there any dangers in doing so?


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Uwe Siart

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Jul 9, 2012, 6:37:11 AM7/9/12
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Lars Madsen <dal...@RTFMSIGNATUREimf.au.dk> writes:

> Are there any dangers in doing so?

I think subitem 8 in

<http://www.tug.org/texlive/upgrade.html>

is specific for going from 2011 to 2012. The handling of the updmap.cfg
files is different now. After a simple "tlmgr update --self --all" there
might remain a conflict in that area. Depending on what you are doing
with your configuration this conflict might either strike or not.

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Lars Madsen

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Jul 9, 2012, 7:33:34 AM7/9/12
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I played it safe for my official system and went through it step by step.

(now it is very handy that all my PATH variable settings does not refer
to the 'year' part in the TL path, instead it refers to a softlink named
'current', thus switching is a breeze)

Christine Roemer

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Jul 9, 2012, 12:10:14 PM7/9/12
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Am 09.07.2012 09:54, schrieb Marcus Frings:
> * Christine Roemer <Christin...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to do an upgrade from TeX Live 2011 to 2012?
>> Existing for that an instruction?
>
> http://www.tug.org/texlive/upgrade.html

With respect to the step 9 I have the
following problem:

You don't have permission to change the installation in any way,
specifically, the directory /usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/ is not writable.
Please run this program as administrator, or contact your local admin.

I have carried out:
chmod u+rwx /usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/
It was no improvement.
??

Christine

Markus

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Jul 10, 2012, 2:28:48 AM7/10/12
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:10:14 +0200, Christine Roemer
<Christin...@t-online.de> wrote:
> > * Christine Roemer <Christin...@t-online.de> wrote:
> Please run this program as administrator, or contact your local
admin.




> chmod u+rwx /usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/
> It was no improvement.

Hi,

You will need the sudo command in order to change permissions in the
/usr/local/ directory.

Regards

Markus

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Christine Roemer

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Jul 10, 2012, 3:43:11 AM7/10/12
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I have it, but unsuccessfully:

/usr/local/texlive/2012 > ls -l
insgesamt 2420
drwxrwxr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 5 21:47 bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 602666 Mai 10 04:39 doc.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1157 Mai 31 2010 index.html
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 77490 Mai 10 15:52 install-tl
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 720874 Jun 6 05:49 install-tl.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2098 Sep 28 2006 LICENSE.CTAN
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5086 Jun 5 2011 LICENSE.TL
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 183 Aug 9 2008 README
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 6 04:56 readme-html.dir
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 6 04:56 readme-txt.dir
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 250 Aug 9 2008 README.usergroups
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 360 Mai 28 2011 release-texlive.txt
drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Jul 3 20:14 texmf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 450 Jun 6 05:48 texmf.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 528 Jun 6 05:48 texmfcnf.lua
drwxrwxr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 3 20:14 texmf-config
drwxrwxr-x 19 root root 4096 Jul 3 20:15 texmf-dist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1002509 Jul 3 19:33 texmf-local
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jul 3 20:15 texmf-var
drwxrwxr-x 9 root root 4096 Jul 9 17:32 tlpkg


/home/trine/Downloads > sh update-tlmgr-latest.sh -- --upgrade
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing TeX Live Manager
Updater..........................................................................................................................................................................
./runme.sh: updating in /usr/local/texlive/2012...
./runme.sh: tlmgr version says this is TeX Live 2011
./runme.sh: upgrading from 2011 to 2012.
tar: LICENSE.CTAN: Kann open nicht ausführen: Die Datei existiert bereits
tar: LICENSE.TL: Kann open nicht ausführen: Die Datei existiert bereits
...

Christine



Lars Madsen

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Jul 10, 2012, 4:00:03 AM7/10/12
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did you try

sudo sh update-tlmgr-latest.sh -- --upgrade

??

your installation is owned by root, so either switch to root before
running the updater or add sudo in front

Herbert Voss

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Jul 10, 2012, 4:01:04 AM7/10/12
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Am 10.07.2012 09:43, schrieb Christine Roemer:

> /home/trine/Downloads > sh update-tlmgr-latest.sh -- --upgrade
> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
> Uncompressing TeX Live Manager
> Updater..........................................................................................................................................................................
>
> ./runme.sh: updating in /usr/local/texlive/2012...
> ./runme.sh: tlmgr version says this is TeX Live 2011
> ./runme.sh: upgrading from 2011 to 2012.
> tar: LICENSE.CTAN: Kann open nicht ausführen: Die Datei existiert bereits
> tar: LICENSE.TL: Kann open nicht ausführen: Die Datei existiert bereits
> ...
>
> Christine
>
>
>

sudo chown -R trine.users /usr/local/texlive

should do the trick

Herbert

Christine Roemer

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Jul 10, 2012, 4:21:31 AM7/10/12
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Am 10.07.2012 10:01, schrieb Herbert Voss:

> sudo chown -R trine.users /usr/local/texlive
>
> should do the trick

I have carried out it.

L. Madsen:

did you try

sudo sh update-tlmgr-latest.sh -- --upgrade


sudo sh update-tlmgr-latest.sh -- --upgrade
[sudo] password for trine:
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing TeX Live Manager
Updater..........................................................................................................................................................................
./runme.sh: 1: ./runme.sh: kpsewhich: not found
./runme.sh: Cannot find TeX Live root using kpsewhich
--var-value=SELFAUTOPARENT.
./runme.sh: Please call update-tlmgr-latest.sh --noexec --keep
./runme.sh: and then call the runme.sh script in the unpacked directory
./runme.sh: with the directory root as the first argument, something like:
./runme.sh: sh runme.sh /path/to/your/texlive/installation/2010

Christine

Lars Madsen

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Jul 10, 2012, 4:30:58 AM7/10/12
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If you did what Herbert mentioned, you should not need sudo in the update

it seems you have to added the TeX Live binaries to the PATH search by root.

Christine Roemer

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Jul 10, 2012, 4:46:10 AM7/10/12
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Am 10.07.2012 10:30, schrieb Lars Madsen:

> If you did what Herbert mentioned, you should not need sudo in the update

Yes.

/home/trine/Downloads > sh update-tlmgr-latest.sh -- --upgrade
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing TeX Live Manager
Updater..........................................................................................................................................................................
./runme.sh: updating in /usr/local/texlive/2012...
./runme.sh: tlmgr version says this is TeX Live 2011
./runme.sh: upgrading from 2011 to 2012.
D:tlmgr:main: ::tldownload_server not defined
D:Using system wget (tested).
D:Using shipped
/usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/installer/xz/xzdec.x86_64-linux for xzdec
(tested).
D:Using shipped
/usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/installer/xz/xz.x86_64-linux for xz (not
tested).
./runme.sh: done.

:-)

/home/trine > tlmgr option repository
http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet
tlmgr: setting default package repository to
http://mirror.ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet
/home/trine > tlmgr update --self --all


It works:
tlmgr: saving backups to /usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/backups
[ 1/289] auto-remove: famt ... done

Thank you very mutch!

Christine




Timothy Murphy

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Jul 10, 2012, 7:23:10 AM7/10/12
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Hendrik Maryns wrote:

> I am surprised nobody else has shouted their happiness here. TL 2012
> is available, as I found out by optimistically invoking ?tlmg update
> - --all? this morning (CET).

I'm not sure if this is relevant to the present thread,
but I am running Fedora-17/KDE on my laptop,
and have been trying to update TeXlive.
I've enabled the fedora-updates-testing repo, as was suggested,
but still get the error:
--------------------------------------
[tim@blanche ~]$ sudo yum update texlive*
...
Error: Package: 1:texlive-preview-11.86.svn17118-1.noarch (@texlive)
Requires: texlive-kpathsea
Removing: 1:texlive-kpathsea-svn26691-1.noarch (@texlive)
texlive-kpathsea = 1:svn26691-1
Obsoleted By: 1:tex-kpathsea-svn26691-1.noarch (texlive)
Not found
--------------------------------------

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Robin Fairbairns

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Jul 10, 2012, 10:21:43 AM7/10/12
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Timothy Murphy <gayl...@eircom.net> writes:

> Hendrik Maryns wrote:
>
>> I am surprised nobody else has shouted their happiness here. TL 2012
>> is available, as I found out by optimistically invoking ?tlmg update
>> - --all? this morning (CET).
>
> I'm not sure if this is relevant to the present thread,
> but I am running Fedora-17/KDE on my laptop,
> and have been trying to update TeXlive.
> I've enabled the fedora-updates-testing repo, as was suggested,
> but still get the error:
> --------------------------------------
> [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo yum update texlive*
> ...
> Error: Package: 1:texlive-preview-11.86.svn17118-1.noarch (@texlive)
> Requires: texlive-kpathsea
> Removing: 1:texlive-kpathsea-svn26691-1.noarch (@texlive)
> texlive-kpathsea = 1:svn26691-1
> Obsoleted By: 1:tex-kpathsea-svn26691-1.noarch (texlive)
> Not found
> --------------------------------------

i've not had the opportunity to use the shiny new fedora tl (i'm
supposed to be about to switch to an ubuntu machine), but i had assumed
it didn't run direct with a tl release, but rather required that you
wait until the feds had packaged a release.

so i'm using a separate tl install, on a /local/texlive setup. fwiw, my
pdftex benchmarks -- the only ones i have -- aren't significantly
different from what i get with tl'11.

Bob Tennent

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Jul 10, 2012, 10:37:46 AM7/10/12
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:23:10 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> I'm not sure if this is relevant to the present thread,
> but I am running Fedora-17/KDE on my laptop,
> and have been trying to update TeXlive.
> I've enabled the fedora-updates-testing repo, as was suggested,
> but still get the error:
> --------------------------------------
> [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo yum update texlive*
> ...
> Error: Package: 1:texlive-preview-11.86.svn17118-1.noarch (@texlive)
> Requires: texlive-kpathsea
> Removing: 1:texlive-kpathsea-svn26691-1.noarch (@texlive)
> texlive-kpathsea = 1:svn26691-1
> Obsoleted By: 1:tex-kpathsea-svn26691-1.noarch (texlive)
> Not found
> --------------------------------------

Have you installed

texlive-release-2012

at

http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/2012/packages.fc17/

Bob T.

Timothy Murphy

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Jul 10, 2012, 5:52:42 PM7/10/12
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Thanks for your response.

Yes, I should have mentioned that I edited
/etc/yum.repos.d/texlive-release.repo , changing
baseurl=http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/2011/packages.fc16/
to
baseurl=http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/2012/packages.fc17/
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