how to use ARIAL font with Latex?
Thomas Roesch
I should use ARIAL font for my thesis - my boss didn't really agree
with Sans Serif fonts. So my question is, how to use ARIAL in Tex???
I use Miktex with the Yap dvi-viewer.
I allready looked on CTAN but this was not really usefull to me
(maybe I am not clever enough ot understand what they wrote).
Thanks a lot in advance
Thomas
Rolf Marvin Bře Lindgren
| I should use ARIAL font for my thesis - my boss didn't really agree
| with Sans Serif fonts. So my question is, how to use ARIAL in Tex???
using Arial for your thesis is not only a violation against good
typography, but also against general aesthethics and common sense.
that aside, use Helvetica. \renewcommand\rmdefault{phv}. tell your
boss that's Arial. he won't be able to tell the difference.
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H.We...@itm.rwth-aachen.de
you may use
\usepackage{helvet}
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault}
(fromt A. Reichert).
Helevetica is not Arial but if you follow the discussion of Arial
fonts in the tex newsgroups via deja.com, there is a consensus that
people requesting Arial fonts for a thesis generally don't know enough
typography to tell the difference.
Hth,
Holger
Jochen Küpper
> Helevetica is not Arial but if you follow the discussion of Arial
> fonts in the tex newsgroups via deja.com, there is a consensus that
> people requesting Arial fonts for a thesis generally don't know enough
> typography to tell the difference.
I am actually wondering how similar/different these to are, as even
Adobe substitutes them for each other. At least Acrobat Reader 4.0x
uses Arial when the Document requests Helvetica.
However, printing such a document with gs and acroread looks somewhat
different. Is this a font or a "printer driver" difference?
Jochen
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Rolf Marvin Bře Lindgren
| However, printing such a document with gs and acroread looks somewhat
| different. Is this a font or a "printer driver" difference?
Helvetica is often PostScript, Arial is invariably TrueType (which is
the reason why it's less than trivial to use TeX with Arial). that
might account for the differences.
Torsten Bronger
"Jochen Küpper" wrote:
>
[...]
>
> I am actually wondering how similar/different these to are, as even
> Adobe substitutes them for each other. At least Acrobat Reader 4.0x
> uses Arial when the Document requests Helvetica.
> However, printing such a document with gs and acroread looks somewhat
> different. Is this a font or a "printer driver" difference?
The character shapes are somewhat different, but I read -- albeit
never checked -- that the metrics are _exactly_ the same, so easy
substitution was one of the goals of Arial. (Probably Monotype
wanted a piece of the Helvetica cake.)
Tschoe,
Torsten.
George N. White III
There _is_ one important difference between the Arial and Helvetica
families that has caused many problems for people who use mathematical
annotations in postscript figures. Variables are generally set in a
slanted (italic) font, and people are sloppy about switching back to a
regular font for punctuation and symbols. Helvetica-Oblique is a
synthetic font, so symbols and punctuation are "skewed" (e.g., "|" can be
confused with "/"). Arial-Italic does not have these "skewed" symbols.
To further confound the situation, many people use the URW "clone" fonts
with ghostscript. In URW's NimbusSanL-ReguItal, symbols are skewed.
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William F. Adams
>The character shapes are somewhat different, but I read -- albeit
>never checked -- that the metrics are _exactly_ the same, so easy
>substitution was one of the goals of Arial. (Probably Monotype
>wanted a piece of the Helvetica cake.)
Actually, it was IBM. The put forth a bid, speccing a font which was metrically
identical to Helvetica, for their then new laserprinters. The fonts were all
named after rivers in Colorado, so it was initially Sonora Sans. The licensing
didn't make the font exclusive to IBM (this was back in the days of the big
anti-trust suit, I believe), so Monotype was able to return Linotype's favor
and sell Arial as compatible to Helvetica.
Microsoft, having just been sued by Linotype for trademark infringement for
their ``Helv'' and ``TmsRmn'' bitmap fonts included with Windows went looking
for an alternative and found Monotype.
To see the design differences, set the dance band name ``GUERILLA GIRLS'' in
both faces and compare.
Arial is available from Adobe and others in Type 1 format as ArialMT.
William
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Peter Flynn
>
> Hi all Tex users,
>
> I should use ARIAL font for my thesis - my boss didn't really agree
> with Sans Serif fonts.
But Arial *is* a sans-serif font. I don't understand the above.
> So my question is, how to use ARIAL in Tex???
\usepackage{times}
...
\sffamily
Arial is just Microsoft's ripoff of Helvetica (no, there's actually
more too it than that, but let it pass).
///Peter
ro...@localhost.invalid
<gwh...@emerald.bio.dfo.ca> wrote:
>There _is_ one important difference between the Arial and Helvetica
>families
[snip]
Have you also compared Arial[1] and Arial MT[2]?
Parentheses and brackets are slanted in both. Braces, back- and
forward-slashes are slanted in TT but not in Type 1.
I've just made the mistake of looking at Arial Narrow MT[3]. The
braces are upright, but the vertical bar and both slashes are
slanted.
[1] Arial TrueType version 2.01 (Windows)
[2] Arial MT Type 1 version 001.003
[3] Arial Narrow MT Type 1 version 001.002
Thomas Roesch
It worked fine and actually I did not expect that to be so easy.
I agree with the common sense for (not) using Arial ....
anyway he is the boss and he forces Arial (or something similar)
for publications of the department
If I like it or if I agree with that does not really matter....
Thomas
H.We...@itm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> you may use
>
> \usepackage{helvet}
> \renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault}
>
> (fromt A. Reichert).
>
> Helevetica is not Arial but if you follow the discussion of Arial
> fonts in the tex newsgroups via deja.com, there is a consensus that
> people requesting Arial fonts for a thesis generally don't know enough
> typography to tell the difference.
>
> Hth,
>
> Holger
Ton van Leeuwen
All fine that it works - but correct me if I am wrong, Arial and
Helvetica are both Sans Serif fonts, so if your boss states
that he wants you to use Arial because he does not approve
of Sans Serif fonts, he knows even less about typography than
people assume....
All the best,
Ton van Leeuwen
sim...@nuffield.co.uk
> All fine that it works - but correct me if I am wrong, Arial and
> Helvetica are both Sans Serif fonts, so if your boss states
> that he wants you to use Arial because he does not approve
> of Sans Serif fonts, he knows even less about typography than
> people assume....
I agree. Ask him to find the serifs in Arial & Helvetica.
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