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Hannu Koivisto

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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Greetings,

For some reason, integral symbol I get with \int when using
AMS-LaTeX is very small. Its vertical size is about the same as
the surrounding text and this looks particularly bad when there
is something big next to it. The strange thing is that in the
printed version of some completely normal math example (which
did nothing special that could affect the size of the symbols)
in The LaTeX Companion, the size of \int symbol was much more
reasonable.

I have searched answer to this problem from amslguide.dvi, The
LaTeX Companion, The LaTeX Graphics Companion and Guide to
LaTeX2e, but haven't found anything (it seems no amount of
documentation saves you from fighting with this kind of small
problems all the time :). Standard font size changing commands
don't seem to work in math mode (why?).

So, what would be the correct way to produce math symbols of
arbitrary size?

I'm using teTeX 0.9.980803 from the Debian GNU/Linux
distribution.

Thanks in advance,
//Hannu

David Carlisle

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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exscale.sty gives integrals that fit the current text size.

but note that tex integrals don't ever stretch in the sense of \left( \right)

David

Hannu Koivisto

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Oct 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/31/98
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David Carlisle <da...@dcarlisle.demon.co.uk> writes:

| exscale.sty gives integrals that fit the current text size.
|
| but note that tex integrals don't ever stretch in the sense of \left( \right)

I'm reading this at home, so I don't have references at hand but
I'd remember that \left( and \right) are those that stretch
respective delimiters automatically. If not, ignore what I'm
going to say. So, if they stretch automatically and integrals
never do that, that's ok, because I don't want integrals to
stretch automatically. It would be completely ok if I could
manually scale them. I just couldn't come up with any way to do
that.

Just to be sure, I tried exscale, but it didn't help. Like you
say, it makes integrals that fit the current text size. But I'd
like them to be bigger than the current text size. If there were
some general way to scale them arbitrarily, then I could define
few macros like, for example, \bigint, \Bigint and \BIGint.

Thanks,
//Hannu

Gene D Johnson

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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In article <t2wpvb8...@lehtori.cc.tut.fi>, Hannu Koivisto
<az...@iki.fi.ns> wrote:

>Just to be sure, I tried exscale, but it didn't help. Like you
>say, it makes integrals that fit the current text size. But I'd
>like them to be bigger than the current text size.

You can make integrals larger in running text with the command \displaystyle.
Esample: $\displaystyle\int x /,dx$ will be the same size as
$$\int x /,dx$$.

Is this what you are looking for?

Gene

Hannu Koivisto

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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gjoh...@cjnetworks.com (Gene D Johnson) writes:

| Is this what you are looking for?

Yes, excellent! Thank you very much. The size is now exactly as
I wanted it to be. Just in case I have need for different size
in future, is it possible to scale arbitrary amount instead of
what displaystyle uses by default? I guess this problem reduces
to how displaystyle is implemented, but I couldn't find its
implementation by grepping through the files in my teTeX
distribution...

Thanks,
//Hannu

Gene D Johnson

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Nov 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/3/98
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In article <t2wemrn...@lehtori.cc.tut.fi>, Hannu Koivisto
<az...@iki.fi.ns> wrote:

> Just in case I have need for different size
>in future, is it possible to scale arbitrary amount instead of
>what displaystyle uses by default?

I use the Lucida Bright fonts with AMS-TeX (not LaTeX), so what works for
me may not work with your system, but try the following sequence of
integrals anyway:

$\int f(x)\,dx$

$\largeint f(x)\,dx$

$\big\largeint f(x)\,dx$

$\Big\largeint f(x)\,dx$

$\bigg\largeint f(x)\,dx$

$\Bigg\largeint f(x)\,dx$

$\biggg\largeint f(x)\,dx$

$\Biggg\largeint f(x)\,dx$

On my system, some of these integral signs are larger than others, some are
the same size. I hope you find something you like.

Gene

Louis Vosloo

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Nov 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/3/98
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Gene D Johnson wrote:

> In article <t2wemrn...@lehtori.cc.tut.fi>, Hannu Koivisto
> <az...@iki.fi.ns> wrote:

> > Just in case I have need for different size
> >in future, is it possible to scale arbitrary amount instead of
> >what displaystyle uses by default?

> I use the Lucida Bright fonts with AMS-TeX (not LaTeX), so what works for
> me may not work with your system, but try the following sequence of
> integrals anyway:

> $\int f(x)\,dx$

> $\largeint f(x)\,dx$

...



> $\Biggg\largeint f(x)\,dx$

Lucida New Math is special in that their *are* several different sizes
of integral signs and they *are* linked together the way an ascending
sequence of delimiters is, even to an `extensible' version for very
large sizes, made possible by vertical orientation for the main stem.



> On my system, some of these integral signs are larger than others, some are
> the same size. I hope you find something you like.

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