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"Žarko F. Čučej"
Nov 30, 2013, 5:38:03 AM11/30/13
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Hi,
i try to use New Century Schoolbook fonts in my new textbook intended
for reading in pdf format. in normal text, where i use roman and italic
shape of it, the text is (very) beautiful. but in pictures, made with
tikz, i use sans serif family. there the result are in case, when text
is sloped, seeing in pdf document, looks very ugly, especially if i use
sumatra for reading. much better appear in the adobe reader (i test with
recent version of it), but the sans serif characters are still look
worse in comparison with roman one.
if i use lmodern fonts, there is not difference in quality of text
regardless of text direction ...
i wonder how to improve a quality of sans serif font from New Century
Schoolbook? do i need some special declaration for their use? do should
i use for \sffamily some other font? if it is so, which one has the best
match with New Centry Schoolbook?
i'm not familiar with fonts issues, so i kindly ask for help.
best regards, zarko
mwe:
\documentclass[tikz,border=5mm,12pt]{standalone}
\usepackage{fouriernc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}%
\node[font=\sffamily] (a) {abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[font=\rmfamily,below=1ex] at (a) {abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=45,above,font=\rmfamily] (b) at (a.west)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=45,above=3ex,font=\sffamily] (c) at (a.west)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=90,right,font=\rmfamily] (d) at (b.east)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=90,above,font=\sffamily] (e) at (d.north)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}
i try to use New Century Schoolbook fonts in my new textbook intended
for reading in pdf format. in normal text, where i use roman and italic
shape of it, the text is (very) beautiful. but in pictures, made with
tikz, i use sans serif family. there the result are in case, when text
is sloped, seeing in pdf document, looks very ugly, especially if i use
sumatra for reading. much better appear in the adobe reader (i test with
recent version of it), but the sans serif characters are still look
worse in comparison with roman one.
if i use lmodern fonts, there is not difference in quality of text
regardless of text direction ...
i wonder how to improve a quality of sans serif font from New Century
Schoolbook? do i need some special declaration for their use? do should
i use for \sffamily some other font? if it is so, which one has the best
match with New Centry Schoolbook?
i'm not familiar with fonts issues, so i kindly ask for help.
best regards, zarko
mwe:
\documentclass[tikz,border=5mm,12pt]{standalone}
\usepackage{fouriernc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}%
\node[font=\sffamily] (a) {abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[font=\rmfamily,below=1ex] at (a) {abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=45,above,font=\rmfamily] (b) at (a.west)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=45,above=3ex,font=\sffamily] (c) at (a.west)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=90,right,font=\rmfamily] (d) at (b.east)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\node[rotate=90,above,font=\sffamily] (e) at (d.north)
{abcčdefghijklmnoprsštuvzž};
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}
Axel Berger
Nov 30, 2013, 5:56:53 AM11/30/13
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"Žarko F. ?u?ej" wrote:
> i'm not familiar with fonts issues, so i kindly ask for help.
Your MWE does NOT use the New Century font. For that you'd need e.g.:
> i'm not familiar with fonts issues, so i kindly ask for help.
% \usepackage{newcent} %New Century, Avantgarde, Courier, no math
% \usepackage{tgschola} %New Century Schoolbook,
[matchlowercase,matchuppercase,scale=1]
Fouriernc only supports a math font to go with it. I don't have it
installed, but I noticed
"This package provides a LaTeX mathematics font setup for use with New
Century Schoolbook text. In order to use it you need to have the
Fourier-GUTenberg fonts installed."
Do you have those fonts?
Axel
Peter Flynn
Nov 30, 2013, 5:26:46 PM11/30/13
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On 11/30/2013 10:38 AM, "Žarko F. Čučej" wrote:> Hi,
> in normal text, where i use roman and italic
> shape of it, the text is (very) beautiful. but in pictures, made with
> tikz, i use sans serif family. there the result are in case, when text
> is sloped, seeing in pdf document, looks very ugly, especially if i use
> sumatra for reading. much better appear in the adobe reader (i test with
> recent version of it), but the sans serif characters are still look
> worse in comparison with roman one.
The [obsolete?] newcent.sty implements Avant Garde as the sans-serif
face. This is probably aesthetically questionable :-)
> i wonder how to improve a quality of sans serif font from New Century
> Schoolbook?
New Century Schoolbook has no sans-serif family. It is a serif typeface
only.
You can use any sans-serif typeface you like. See the LaTeX Font
Catalogue for a selection
(http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/sansseriffonts.html)
> do i need some special declaration for their use? do should
> i use for \sffamily some other font? if it is so, which one has the best
> match with New Centry Schoolbook?
That is an aesthetic matter. Many people will disagree, no matter what
you choose :-)
NCS has a fairly tight spacing, so much as it goes against the grain,
perhaps Helvetica would suit better than some of the others.
> mwe:
> \documentclass[tikz,border=5mm,12pt]{standalone}
> \usepackage{fouriernc}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>
> \begin{document}
[snip]
I do not see NCS here.
///Peter
> i try to use New Century Schoolbook fonts in my new textbook intended
> for reading in pdf format.
What package do you use for this?
> for reading in pdf format.
> in normal text, where i use roman and italic
> shape of it, the text is (very) beautiful. but in pictures, made with
> tikz, i use sans serif family. there the result are in case, when text
> is sloped, seeing in pdf document, looks very ugly, especially if i use
> sumatra for reading. much better appear in the adobe reader (i test with
> recent version of it), but the sans serif characters are still look
> worse in comparison with roman one.
face. This is probably aesthetically questionable :-)
> i wonder how to improve a quality of sans serif font from New Century
> Schoolbook?
only.
You can use any sans-serif typeface you like. See the LaTeX Font
Catalogue for a selection
(http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/sansseriffonts.html)
> do i need some special declaration for their use? do should
> i use for \sffamily some other font? if it is so, which one has the best
> match with New Centry Schoolbook?
you choose :-)
NCS has a fairly tight spacing, so much as it goes against the grain,
perhaps Helvetica would suit better than some of the others.
> mwe:
> \documentclass[tikz,border=5mm,12pt]{standalone}
> \usepackage{fouriernc}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>
> \begin{document}
I do not see NCS here.
///Peter
"Žarko F. Čučej"
Nov 30, 2013, 5:59:09 PM11/30/13
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thank you again. your question pointed me to look which fonts i have
installed and what i actually use:
- according to found documentation (wiki, stackexchange) by
\usepackage{fourierenc} i have been installed new century schoolbook
font with math fonts (new century schoolbook is scaled down to match
math font size, as i read)
- new century schoolbook hasn't native sans serif nor typerider fonts,
so compiling my texts, those fonts were substituted (to me unknown)
fonts. probably bit mapped, because they look so ugly in slanted text
- similarly situation is at tgshola fonts
- newcent style provides for roman type fonts new century schoolbook,
for sans serif use avantgarde and for typewriter courier fonts
temporary i decided to use combination 'fourierenc', scaled helvetica
and courier. now all types of characters have the same quality. if this
combination is aesthetically good, is mater of taste. till to now i
haven't time to test other combination of this fonts, so if some one has
better suggestion, i kindly ask to tell me.
best regards, zarko
"Žarko F. Čučej"
Nov 30, 2013, 6:23:59 PM11/30/13
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your observation is correct. i spend most of afternoon to look around
about fonts i my founding i describe in answer to Axel.
in one place i found description, that 'fourierenc' loads NCS and math
extension for it, but on other place is stated, that fourier origin is
in adobe utopia fonts. since i'm not familiar very much with this names
and font issues in general, actually i don't know now, which fonts are i
actually use with \usepackage{fourierenc}.
now i use the following declarations for fonts:
\documentclass[tikz,border=5mm,12pt]{standalone}
\usepackage{fouriernc}
\usepackage{courier}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
...
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
for now i'm quit pleased with their appearance (they are compact, serif
and sans serifs characters has equal size, courier are a little bit
smaller/lower). and as you said, this is mater of taste, so now my
primary concern will be content of textbook, later i will return to
aesthetics issues again.
thank you again, regards zarko
giacomo boffi
Dec 1, 2013, 4:53:10 PM12/1/13
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"�arko F. �u�ej" <zarko...@gmail.com> writes:
> in one place i found description, that 'fourierenc' loads NCS and math
> extension for it, but on other place is stated, that fourier origin is
> in adobe utopia fonts. since i'm not familiar very much with this
> names and font issues in general, actually i don't know now, which
> fonts are i actually use with \usepackage{fourierenc}.
when you run pdflatex, at the very end of it prints to the terminal
> in one place i found description, that 'fourierenc' loads NCS and math
> extension for it, but on other place is stated, that fourier origin is
> in adobe utopia fonts. since i'm not familiar very much with this
> names and font issues in general, actually i don't know now, which
> fonts are i actually use with \usepackage{fourierenc}.
(and into the .lof file) the fonts it has used
after processing a test document i prepared, containing
\usepackage{fouriernc} and a little math, pdflatex said
</usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/public/fourier/fourier-ms.pfb>
</usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/urw/ncntrsbk/uncr8a.pfb>
</usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/urw/ncntrsbk/uncri8a.pfb>
meaning that it used new century schoolbook, roman and italic, as
kindly provided by URW, and the fourier math font
so, in my case fouriernc DOES use NCSB
hth, ciao
giacomo boffi
Dec 1, 2013, 4:55:01 PM12/1/13
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giacomo boffi <pec...@pascolo.net> writes:
> when you run pdflatex, at the very end of it prints to the terminal
> (and into the .lof file) the fonts it has used
-----------------LOG----------------------------
> when you run pdflatex, at the very end of it prints to the terminal
> (and into the .lof file) the fonts it has used
into the .log file, that's it
--
vabbu� parliamo d'altro -- Agnosco, in IFQ
Axel Berger
Dec 1, 2013, 5:12:34 PM12/1/13
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giacomo boffi wrote:
> so, in my case fouriernc DOES use NCSB
I was wrong. But I did say, I don't have fouriernc installed and could
> so, in my case fouriernc DOES use NCSB
only go by its description.
Axel
"Žarko F. Čučej"
Dec 1, 2013, 11:49:01 PM12/1/13
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a snip from log file, when i didn't declare fonts for sans serif and
typewriter fonts is:
<C:\Users\zarko\AppData\Local\MiKTeX\2.9\fonts\pk\ljfour\jkn
appen\ec\dpi600\ectt1200.pk>
<C:\Users\zarko\AppData\Local\MiKTeX\2.9\fonts\pk\ljfour\jknappen\ec\dpi600\ecss1200.pk>{C:/Program
Files/MiKTeX 2.9/fonts/enc/dvips/fontname/8r.enc}<C:/Program
Files/MiKTeX 2.9/fonts/type1/urw/ncntrsbk/uncr8a.pfb><C:/Program
Files/MiKTeX 2.9/fonts/type1/urw/ncntrsbk/uncri8a.pfb>
so i guess that for sans serif and typewriter are used pk fonts (are
this font the same as it can be seen in a YAP?); and with declared
Helvetica and Courier for sans serif and typewriter fonts, a snip is:
{C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.9/fonts/enc/dvips/fontname/8r.enc}
<C:/Program Files/MiKTeX
2.9/fonts/type1/urw/courier/ucrr8a.pfb><C:/Program Files/MiKTeX
2.9/fonts/type1/urw/helvetic/uhvr8a.pfb><C:/Program Files/MiKTeX
2.9/fonts/type1/urw/ncntrsbk/uncr8a.pfb><C:/Program Files/MiKTeX
2.9/fonts/type1/urw/ncntrsbk/uncri8a.pfb>
regards, zarko
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