BroadVision support for QuickSilver
David Bathe
QuickSilver - not a very reliable source. Does anyone know if this is
true and what the impact will be on users?
In my understanding you never purchase QuickSilver it kind of is
leased from BroadVision on a yearly contract. What will be the impact
to the use of QuickSilver if BroadVision stop this arrangement?
I've tried to contact BroadVision in the UK but their QuickSilver
person just goes through to voice mail. Obviously, I left message but
no-one's called back.
Is this just a rumour or should I start to investigate alternatives?
David Bathe
Steve Kappel
It wouldn't surprise me.
In July 2001 I got email from an account manager regarding my QuickSilver
inquiry:
"We now have dedicated Marketing and Engineering resources assigned to
this product line and anticipate future updates in first quarter 2002."
Of course that could have changed.
Yes, QuickSilver cannot be purchased.
The losers at BroadVision should just turn it over to open source
if they abandon it.
jmm
a point release is due sometime soon for QuickSilver.
However, I doubt the sincerity of Broadvision in continuing this product for
long due to their retreat from Australia last year. As far as I am aware, no
Quicksilver customer in Australia or New Zealand has yet been informed about
their support options OR has been contacted to renew their annual QS
subscription licence. Broadvision will allow existing customers to add a
license if required ... providing they investigate who to phone first.
As for new QuickSilver customers, Broadvision stopped selling new licenses
well before their hasty exit from the country, approx. mid 2001.
I would like to see further discussion on this news group from other users
about their latest experiences or updated information. I have always really
enjoyed using this product and would be sad to see the product phased
out through neglect.
"Steve Kappel" <ska...@isis.visi.com> wrote in message
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Michael D. Porter
jmm wrote:
>
> I spoke with a Broadvision software engineer recently and he confirmed that
> a point release is due sometime soon for QuickSilver.
>
> However, I doubt the sincerity of Broadvision in continuing this product for
> long due to their retreat from Australia last year. As far as I am aware, no
> Quicksilver customer in Australia or New Zealand has yet been informed about
> their support options OR has been contacted to renew their annual QS
> subscription licence. Broadvision will allow existing customers to add a
> license if required ... providing they investigate who to phone first.
Ever since Interleaf went to subscription services, I've not dealt with
them, mostly because I work for a small manufacturer which seems to be
repeatedly sold to foreign buyers who want us to give up Interleaf,
until we explain to them how much we get done with so few people.
My general feeling is that BroadVision will be pulling the plug in a few
months, even if there's an upgrade. The support agreements with existing
software purchasers and subscribers, I think, will die some time in
2003. The subscription idea may have been okay for the very big users,
but is terrible for small companies, and Interleaf/BroadVision has
already lost that business (which they didn't care about, anyway). And,
since BroadVision has already integrated a very limited version of Blade
Runner into their own software, there's no real need to keep Interleaf,
especially if doing so means continuing support. I think Interleaf is on
the way out, unfortunately.
Cheers.
--
Michael D. Porter
Roswell, NM (yes, _that_ Roswell)
[mailto:mpo...@zianet.com]
The gulf between content and substance continues to widen....
Dave Quebbeman
1. I recently returned a survey from Broadvision re desired features for a new
release of QS. I assume this means another release is in fact under development.
2. I use QS UNIX primary for filtering Word, AutoCad, etc. documents into
Interleaf 5 and back out to those who need "editable" versions of I5 documents
and drawings. I have been very impressed with the quality of the QS filters.
Moving docs back and forth from I5 to QS is no problem.
3. Just tested Interleaf 5 on an HP 712 running HP-UX 11.0. Works fine. My
intention is to load I5 on an HP B180L. I got excellent help from Broadvision
customer service for this test. No extra charge for migration. (We do have a
maintenance contract.)
4. I'm now using I5 and WorldView Press routinely to create online manuals
consisting of multiple pdf files, with full hyperlinks from TOC, index, and
crossrefs. These are cross document links. My next step is to allow our
customers to access an html portal page that will lead into the pdf documents.
This makes life easy for the programmer, since he only has to tie the Help
button to one portal page.
Dave Quebbeman
Thomson Multimedia Broadcast Solutions
Salt Lake City
Sergei Klimov
"Dave Quebbeman" <dqueb...@macconnect.com> wrote:
> 1. I recently returned a survey from Broadvision re desired features for a
new
> release of QS. I assume this means another release is in fact under
development.
Exactly. Scheduled to 2002 summer. Mainly, bugfixes and improvements in
Publishing.
> I have been very impressed with the quality of the QS filters.
Yes. FiltersPack 1.7 with Patch AD is not bad.
Sergei Klimov
Quicksilver Software QA Lead Engineer
Steve Kappel
Please make sure the bugs are fixed in the graphics grid drawing!
Been there for many years (Unix). Turn grid on and use zoom
and object selection. Garbage is plain as day.
Thanks!
Sergei Klimov
Thank you for suggestion. I will look into it (though it may be already
known bug).
> Please make sure the bugs are fixed in the graphics grid drawing!
You know, neither I nor our programmers determine which bugs are must-fix.
This is up to managers. All I can do is report this bug to bugs database. If
it is not there yet.
Better way to get it fixed is report it to Customer Support. They may
escalate it and tell us to fix it :-)
By the way, what version of Quicksilver you work with? I will try and
recreate the issue.
Sergei
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Russ Urquhart
do you know if quicksilver will ever be ported to the mac, either OS 9 or the
current unix based OS X?
Interleaf a logn time ago USED to have a mac version!
Thanks
Russ
Sergei Klimov
Interleaf/Quicksilver for almost 6 years, but only heard rumors that "there
was a mac version" and never actually saw it. Obviously, it was canceled
before 1996.
Last year I heard from one of former Interleaf programmer that he built and
run Interleaf on Linux (just for his personal use). He said it was running
fast and reliable.
Sergei
"Russ Urquhart" <russur...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Russ Urquhart
That's unfortunate that they have no plans. I had purchased a version of
Interleaf (version 3.0 i believe) that was for the Mac environment, but it
doesn't seem to work on the current versions of Mac os. (Somethhing to do with
the use of a color monitor. It expects that old mac greyscale monitor.)
I think that's really cool your friend ported it to linux. As far as compiling
the interleaf source goes, for a unix version, Is that pretty straightforward,
or are their certain things that have to be available on that version of Unix.
The reason i ask is that i've takenn several Linux apps, open sourced, and
gotten them to compile easily under Mac OS X. I also know that there was some
way to run Linux binaries under BSD, which OS X is closely related to.
If you or your friend knows more about this i'd like to talk with ya'll about
it!
Thanks for responding!
Russ
Sergei Klimov
Actually, that man was not a friend of mine, I just used to read his e-mail
to some of our internal corporate mail aliases. And I do not remember if he
gave out any details. I just remember he wrote like "I compiled it on my
home Linux box and it runs fast". That was about the time when Broadvision
bought Interleaf, and no one seemed to be interested in experimenting with
Interleaf.
Sergei
"Russ Urquhart" <russur...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Dave Quebbeman
>
> Hi,
>
> That's unfortunate that they have no plans. I had purchased a version of
> Interleaf (version 3.0 i believe) that was for the Mac environment, but it
> doesn't seem to work on the current versions of Mac os. (Somethhing to do with
> the use of a color monitor. It expects that old mac greyscale monitor.)
>
Russ,
You probably know this, but Interleaf 3 will run on Mac OS 6. I don't
believe the color monitor is an issue.
BTW, very much thanks to you, I am now using I5 & WorldView Press
routinely to produce fully hyperlinked (TOC, xref, and index) pdf docs.
That is the sole reason I am able to continue using Interleaf.
And, thank you Sergei for your response on comp.text.interleaf!!
Dave Quebbeman
Salt Lake City