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Eva Farkas Piotrowski

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Aug 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/9/97
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William Smith

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Aug 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/11/97
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Andre Lodwig wrote:
>
> Robert Hartman wrote:
> >
> > If everyone saves the return addresses of the spam they receive in a
> > day, and posts them to one or two newsgroups, we can see how long it
> > takes for the spambots to flood each other into oblivion!
>
> The problem is, that most of the adresses in spam-headers don't
> work. I switched to using a modified sender adress (netscape
> allows this) to reduce spam and it seems to work.
>
> Andre Lodwig
>
> for non-commercial replys: remove the x in my adress.

Unfortunately, a lot of their addresses are fictitious.
I got some really irritating spam one day and decided
to send all the shareware programs that I had in my
root directory, which amounted to a few megs and it bounced
right back to me.

Say, if one could verify the addresses, one could write
a short shell script that sends 600 or so junk e mail
messages to the more irritating spammers. (that uses
some system resources, but isn't it worth it)

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Mirko Vukovic

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Aug 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/12/97
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Eva Farkas Piotrowski wrote:
>
> Robert Hartman wrote:
>
> > If everyone saves the return addresses of the spam they receive in a
> > day, and posts them to one or two newsgroups, we can see how long it
> > takes for the spambots to flood each other into oblivion!
> >
one problem is that some of these email addresses bounce on me when I
try to reply to them with "remove" in the subject area. It seems that
they somehow hide their originating address.
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Novellus Systems Palo Alto, CA, 94304
415/424-4969 mirko....@varian.grc.com

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Robert Hartman

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Aug 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/15/97
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In article <5t1mdg$662$1...@elle.eunet.no>,
Steve Pepper <pep...@infotek.no> wrote:
:
:Excuse me for pointing this out, but you're in the wrong newsgroup.
:
:In the comp.text.sgml dictionary, 'spam' is defined as:
:
: Spam ('spæm), sb. 1995 [f. 'SP' (q.v.) + 'add markup'] An application
: of James Clark's SP parser for adding markup to SGML documents
: (act. more prop. desc. as a markup stream editor)
:
: Spam ('spæm), v. 1997. [f. SPAM sb.] To add markup to an SGML
: document using spam.
:
:Please take your discussion elsewhere.

Best one I've heard all month! Thanks!

Strangely enough, the volume of spam I've received has dropped
dramatically since I posted that article.

-r
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Tad McClellan

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Aug 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/15/97
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[ followups set to only comp.text.sgml, the group I saw it in.
The original post itself was a spam. I hate spam as much as the
next person, but spamming about spam is exactly as bad as
spamming about long distance service...
]


Bryan Ericson (beri...@geocities.com) wrote:
: William Smith wrote:

: > Andre Lodwig wrote:
: > >
: > > Robert Hartman wrote:
: > > >
: > > > If everyone saves the return addresses of the spam they
: > receive in a
: > > > day, and posts them to one or two newsgroups, we can see how
: > long it
: > > > takes for the spambots to flood each other into oblivion!

: > >

: <snip>

: > Say, if one could verify the addresses, one could write


: > a short shell script that sends 600 or so junk e mail
: > messages to the more irritating spammers. (that uses
: > some system resources, but isn't it worth it)

: >

: That would be what's known as a mail bomb, available
: from your favorite software hacking/virus/piracy site.
: Unfortunately, you run the risk of getting kicked off
: your server if your sysadmin objects to such activities.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As the overwhelming majority do.

Worse yet, that could be construed as a "denial of service" attack,
which opens you up to criminal prosecution...


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Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
ta...@flash.net Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas

Steve Pepper

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Aug 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/15/97
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In article <33EEA3...@see.my.signature.file>, wi...@see.my.signature.file wrote:
>Andre Lodwig wrote:
>>
>> Robert Hartman wrote:
>> >
>> > If everyone saves the return addresses of the spam they receive in a

Excuse me for pointing this out, but you're in the wrong newsgroup.

In the comp.text.sgml dictionary, 'spam' is defined as:

Spam ('spæm), sb. 1995 [f. 'SP' (q.v.) + 'add markup'] An application
of James Clark's SP parser for adding markup to SGML documents
(act. more prop. desc. as a markup stream editor)

Spam ('spæm), v. 1997. [f. SPAM sb.] To add markup to an SGML
document using spam.

Please take your discussion elsewhere.

Steve

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Bryan Ericson

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Aug 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/15/97
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William Smith wrote:

> Andre Lodwig wrote:
> >
> > Robert Hartman wrote:
> > >
> > > If everyone saves the return addresses of the spam they
> receive in a

> > > day, and posts them to one or two newsgroups, we can see how
> long it
> > > takes for the spambots to flood each other into oblivion!
> >

<snip>

> Say, if one could verify the addresses, one could write
> a short shell script that sends 600 or so junk e mail
> messages to the more irritating spammers. (that uses
> some system resources, but isn't it worth it)
>

That would be what's known as a mail bomb, available
from your favorite software hacking/virus/piracy site.
Unfortunately, you run the risk of getting kicked off
your server if your sysadmin objects to such activities.

Bry


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