UNISYS ref/trn materials (was FAQ Question Number 1 - Newbie reference materials)
Barry Smith
Thank you for your kind replies (and even a web link to Unisys's book
site).
Based upon the replies here in the newsgroup and a little information
gatherred at a project meeting, I'll give you an update to the environment.
Although I'm still attacking that UNISYS learning curve, I've gotten some
answers to some questions.
o All of the manuals that I can find are labeled Unisys 1100.
o We are currently maintaining programs written in COBOL 74.
o When I do an $$OPEN <site>, I see the message
*UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 44R4D-NE1-3C(RSI)*
I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
Oh, yeah...
o At the project meeting, Net Services was chastised for not
having set up Intraweb access to the Unisys Manuals on
CD-ROM.
So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
access to it in any way yet.
In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
Lastly, are there any "utilities" distributed with 1100... something like
the MVS ISPF 3.4 screen, or like MVS FileAid.
As I was writing this post, I found @FTP... are there any Unisys ftp sites
with utilities or docs that might be helpful?
IPF and ED are there as well, but I figure IPF and ED are common Unisys
apps... like VI and EMACS on Unix boxes.
Oh yeah... what is FAS? Where do I look up how to use it?
I'm sorry for the barrage of questions, but it seems like every task I do
inspires more questions.
Thanks in advance for all help,
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David W. Schroth
Barry Smith wrote:
>
> In my last post, I mentioned that I'm new to Unisys.
>
> Thank you for your kind replies (and even a web link to Unisys's book
> site).
>
> Based upon the replies here in the newsgroup and a little information
> gatherred at a project meeting, I'll give you an update to the environment.
>
> Although I'm still attacking that UNISYS learning curve, I've gotten some
> answers to some questions.
>
> o All of the manuals that I can find are labeled Unisys 1100.
> o We are currently maintaining programs written in COBOL 74.
> o When I do an $$OPEN <site>, I see the message
> *UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 44R4D-NE1-3C(RSI)*
>
> I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
>
The 2200 (and its successors) are compatible with the 1100. At the user
level, the differences between an 1100 and a 2200 are more than a little
difficult to spot.
> Oh, yeah...
> o At the project meeting, Net Services was chastised for not
> having set up Intraweb access to the Unisys Manuals on
> CD-ROM.
>
> So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
> access to it in any way yet.
>
> In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
> No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
>
> Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
>
> Lastly, are there any "utilities" distributed with 1100... something like
> the MVS ISPF 3.4 screen, or like MVS FileAid.
>
There are a fair number of utilities distributed with an 1100. Since I
am totally unfamiliar with MVS (let alone ISPF or FileAid), I don't know
what 1100 utilities would correspond to ISPF or FileAid. Perhaps you
could specify the utility functions you are looking for, and someone
could tell you the 1100 equivalent.
> As I was writing this post, I found @FTP... are there any Unisys ftp sites
> with utilities or docs that might be helpful?
>
> IPF and ED are there as well, but I figure IPF and ED are common Unisys
> apps... like VI and EMACS on Unix boxes.
>
> Oh yeah... what is FAS? Where do I look up how to use it?
>
FAS (File Administration System) is the tool used for backing up and
restoring files. The FAS Operations Guide (7830 7972-00x) is probably
your best bet for finding out what it does and how to use it.
> I'm sorry for the barrage of questions, but it seems like every task I do
> inspires more questions.
>
It's kind of nice to get the questions. I'm sorry I don't have more
useful answers for you (yet).
> Thanks in advance for all help,
>
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Regards,
David W. Schroth
Edward Reid
> So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
> access to it in any way yet.
If you get stonewalled for too long, realize that you can buy the CDs
from Unisys for about $45 apiece. (It's $45 for the A-Series and I
think it's the same for the 2200.) In some respects it works a lot
better for each person to have their own anyway.
Also, Unisys doesn't care if you make copies. You may not be able to
get this in writing, but I've certainly heard Unisys people say it.
They want your staff to have documentation. If you have fairly new PCs,
it's likely that you can just copy the CD to the hard disk. Or, use a
CD burner to make copies.
The 2200 CD differs from the A-Series CD (SGML vs PDF), and I'm on the
A-Series side, so I'm not sure of the details needed to implement these
recommendations for the 2200 CD.
Edward Reid
Dick Anderson
We still have a 1100/60 site with DCP-40's, 8433 disk drives and U36 tape
drives running in Hawaii.
Honeywell in Phoenix (former Sperry Flight Systems) has gone the full path
of time sharing on a 1107, their own 1108 up to a recent IX system. Back in
the early 70's, they wrote their own real time inventory system (1108 days -
only system in the field that I saw that actually turned the real time light
on). Over the years, between labeled tapes, tape management, etc., they
lost the source code to the RETINA package. They now do absolute patches,
when required. This is an absolute over 25 years old...
George Ewins <gew...@usa.net> wrote in message
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>
> > From: "Barry Smith" <bsm...@plan-sys.com>
> > Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys
> > Date: 17 Nov 1999 23:27:36 GMT
> > Subject: UNISYS ref/trn materials (was FAQ Question Number 1 - Newbie
> > reference materials)
> >
> > In my last post, I mentioned that I'm new to Unisys.
> >
> > Thank you for your kind replies (and even a web link to Unisys's book
> > site).
> >
> > Based upon the replies here in the newsgroup and a little information
> > gatherred at a project meeting, I'll give you an update to the
environment.
> >
> > Although I'm still attacking that UNISYS learning curve, I've gotten
some
> > answers to some questions.
> >
> > o All of the manuals that I can find are labeled Unisys 1100.
> > o We are currently maintaining programs written in COBOL 74.
> > o When I do an $$OPEN <site>, I see the message
> > *UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 44R4D-NE1-3C(RSI)*
> >
> > I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
>
> I do not believe that any of the 1100's are supported on that OS level so
it
> is more likely a 2200 or newer system. (any site still running an 1100 has
> some poor management - the cost reductions for power, HVAC and floor space
> make a good business case for replacing it with a newer system!) You will
> also see the operating system referred to as OS2200 and there may even be
a
> stray reference to EXEC8 (a really old name). To normal applications, the
OS
> level does not make that much difference. I have seen 15 year old
absolutes
> that still work.
>
> >
> > Oh, yeah...
> > o At the project meeting, Net Services was chastised for not
> > having set up Intraweb access to the Unisys Manuals on
> > CD-ROM.
> >
> > So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
> > access to it in any way yet.
> >
> > In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
> > No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about
it.
> >
> > Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
>
> It seems to me that it was part of CTS which is what Unisys terms a
category
> 3 product (unsupported but we will still charge you for it). It is also
not
> Y2K compliant.
>
> >
> > Lastly, are there any "utilities" distributed with 1100... something
like
> > the MVS ISPF 3.4 screen, or like MVS FileAid.
> >
>
> IPF has a similar functionality to ISPF but I do not know what FileAid
does.
>
> > As I was writing this post, I found @FTP... are there any Unisys ftp
sites
> > with utilities or docs that might be helpful?
> >
> > IPF and ED are there as well, but I figure IPF and ED are common Unisys
> > apps... like VI and EMACS on Unix boxes.
>
> IPF is the only supported editor for the OS2200 systems. ED is also
category
> 3 software. In full screen mode, it is similar to ISPF (at least the SPF
> that I remember from about 20 years ago!). IPF has a good script language
> and the scripts are really good at extending the IPF functionality.
>
> >
> > Oh yeah... what is FAS? Where do I look up how to use it?
>
> Most of what FAS does is done in privileged mode but there are some user
> functions that can be done in non-privileged mode. Documentation is on
that
> CDROM that you can't access.
>
> >
> > I'm sorry for the barrage of questions, but it seems like every task I
do
> > inspires more questions.
> >
Richard C. Steiner
>o All of the manuals that I can find are labeled Unisys 1100.
Insofar as basic ECL syntax is concerned, it's all really about the same.
>o We are currently maintaining programs written in COBOL 74.
>o When I do an $$OPEN <site>, I see the message
> *UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 44R4D-NE1-3C(RSI)*
The 2200/500 I'm on right now as a development box says this:
*UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 45R2-TFL-07 (RSI)*
so we're running a slightly newer version of the OS than you are.
>I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
Nah. It's never that simple. :-) I don't know if it's installed on
your box, but try typing "@WHERE". There may be other ways to get some
hardware information.
>In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
>No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
>Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
When I type @HELP here, I see the following:
>WHEN YOU NO LONGER NEED HELP, TYPE EXIT
>TEACH ? - TYPE YES OR TYPE A HELP COMMAND >
(where ">" characters are SOE characters).
To me, it appears to be the CTS help system. It might be useful if you
want to learn how to use the CTS environment. Depending on the local
alternatives available to you, it might or might not be useful. :-)
>Lastly, are there any "utilities" distributed with 1100... something like
>the MVS ISPF 3.4 screen, or like MVS FileAid.
We have a lot of "nonstandard" stuff here. I'm not all that familiar with
ISPF on the IBM side -- I get into it to do my change management stuff in
InfoMan, and then I leave again.
@IPF has an editor which is primitive and roughly analogous to the editor
I've seen in ISPF, sort of. Type @IPF, then MODE SCREEN. @IPF has a nice
(if verbose) macro language as well, but I don't use @IPF at all anymore.
Can you describe what FileAid does ... in general terms?
>As I was writing this post, I found @FTP... are there any Unisys ftp sites
>with utilities or docs that might be helpful?
The new UUSIG site is useful: http://www.uusig.org
>IPF and ED are there as well, but I figure IPF and ED are common Unisys
>apps... like VI and EMACS on Unix boxes.
@ED is the common line editor, and it's fairly powerful (and very fast!),
and the two "official" Unisys command-line environments I'm aware of are
@CTS (the old Conversational TimeSharing line editing environment) and
@IPF (which some people think is neat and others don't).
Folks tend to use @UEDIT or @FSED here, both non-standard editors, and I
use a relatively nice command-line environment here called @CSHELL as
well. It add a few nice things to the ECL environment (command history,
aliasing), and provides a rough approximation of piping and input/output
redirection that can be useful at times.
@CSHELL is on the UUSIG site, as is the @CALL macro language it's written
in. Dunno about @UEDIT or @FSED.
>Oh yeah... what is FAS? Where do I look up how to use it?
I don't play with @FAS. Sorry...
>I'm sorry for the barrage of questions, but it seems like every task I do
>inspires more questions.
The 2200 is somewhat different from anything else I've played with, but it
has some nice/interesting features (like transparent "@@ commands"), and
there are also a number of useful third party utilities around (@TOCED,
@DOWN, @VSH, @FINDREF, @PRT, @ZIP, @BK1 and @BK@ (or @S and @R), @SECTOR,
etc.) for doing various things. Most of those are on the UUSIG site.
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George Ewins
> From: "Barry Smith" <bsm...@plan-sys.com>
> Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys
> Date: 17 Nov 1999 23:27:36 GMT
> Subject: UNISYS ref/trn materials (was FAQ Question Number 1 - Newbie
> reference materials)
>
> In my last post, I mentioned that I'm new to Unisys.
>
> Thank you for your kind replies (and even a web link to Unisys's book
> site).
>
> Based upon the replies here in the newsgroup and a little information
> gatherred at a project meeting, I'll give you an update to the environment.
>
> Although I'm still attacking that UNISYS learning curve, I've gotten some
> answers to some questions.
>
> o All of the manuals that I can find are labeled Unisys 1100.
> o We are currently maintaining programs written in COBOL 74.
> o When I do an $$OPEN <site>, I see the message
> *UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 44R4D-NE1-3C(RSI)*
>
> I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
I do not believe that any of the 1100's are supported on that OS level so it
is more likely a 2200 or newer system. (any site still running an 1100 has
some poor management - the cost reductions for power, HVAC and floor space
make a good business case for replacing it with a newer system!) You will
also see the operating system referred to as OS2200 and there may even be a
stray reference to EXEC8 (a really old name). To normal applications, the OS
level does not make that much difference. I have seen 15 year old absolutes
that still work.
>
> Oh, yeah...
> o At the project meeting, Net Services was chastised for not
> having set up Intraweb access to the Unisys Manuals on
> CD-ROM.
>
> So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
> access to it in any way yet.
>
> In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
> No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
>
> Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
It seems to me that it was part of CTS which is what Unisys terms a category
3 product (unsupported but we will still charge you for it). It is also not
Y2K compliant.
>
> Lastly, are there any "utilities" distributed with 1100... something like
> the MVS ISPF 3.4 screen, or like MVS FileAid.
>
IPF has a similar functionality to ISPF but I do not know what FileAid does.
> As I was writing this post, I found @FTP... are there any Unisys ftp sites
> with utilities or docs that might be helpful?
>
> IPF and ED are there as well, but I figure IPF and ED are common Unisys
> apps... like VI and EMACS on Unix boxes.
IPF is the only supported editor for the OS2200 systems. ED is also category
3 software. In full screen mode, it is similar to ISPF (at least the SPF
that I remember from about 20 years ago!). IPF has a good script language
and the scripts are really good at extending the IPF functionality.
>
> Oh yeah... what is FAS? Where do I look up how to use it?
Most of what FAS does is done in privileged mode but there are some user
functions that can be done in non-privileged mode. Documentation is on that
CDROM that you can't access.
>
> I'm sorry for the barrage of questions, but it seems like every task I do
> inspires more questions.
>
Jim McMahon
>Oh, yeah...
>o At the project meeting, Net Services was chastised for not
> having set up Intraweb access to the Unisys Manuals on
> CD-ROM.
>So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
>access to it in any way yet.
If you have a machine on which you can share the CD ROM, it will
probably be worthwhile having someone figure out how to do it and use
the software. If you can't make the disk shareable, visit someone's
CD copier ....
You'll want to make sure you use the "print-ready" version of the doc
set. It'll be much easier, in my experience. If you find some crappy
CD navigation software (forget the name of it--something like EBT+),
and the docs are not in PDF format, trash the disk and ask for a newer
version.
Depending on how old the CD at your work center is, it may or may not
be labeled as 1100 or 2200. My shop has a CD doc called "ClearPath
HMP IX Print Ready", and it's got *nearly* a complete library on it,
including the language and utility reference manuals. Although you
don't have a ClearPath machine (as far as I can tell), this CD would
still contain a lot of information of great interest to you, since
many of the utilities haven't changed that much (if at all) from the
1100 days. Others, of course, didn't exist on the 1100, so you still
need guidance on what's useful to your goals and installed at your
location.
Although I forced one of my junior staff to install the CD so that my
whole shop could use it and don't really know the details, I can put
you in touch with the guy that did it, if you get your hands on the
disk and need help configuring it. I really, really, really think it
will be worth your while.
>In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
>No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
>Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
Not sure what @HELP itself is - many of the utilities have their own
built-in help, which is invoked while you're "inside" the utility. I
always check, and usually try common keywords like "help", and "?".
>Lastly, are there any "utilities" distributed with 1100... something like
>the MVS ISPF 3.4 screen, or like MVS FileAid.
I know what ISPF is, and as near as I can figure, Unisys IPF is
roughly equivalent. It's an environment. Under IPF, for example,
you'll find terminology like "directory", where you'll never see that
term in older 1100 documentation, because Unisys 1100/2200
"directories" are in reality more like MVS partioned data sets.
When I arrived at my site we ran an obsolete and unsupported version
of OS 1100, and had no access to IPF. Two years ago we finally
upgraded, but most here have not bothered to learn much about IPF,
since it's generally faster to use the "non-standard but common"
utilities - there are a lot of different editors, most similar, and
many here learn at least 2 or 3.
>As I was writing this post, I found @FTP... are there any Unisys ftp sites
>with utilities or docs that might be helpful?
Steve Martin's Home Page at http://www.sjmsoft.com/
and the UUSIG at http://www.uusig.org/
may interest you.
I also recommend you find out who your site administrator is and ask
what common utilities have been installed. At my site, I was pointed
to a program file ("directory") named SYS$LIB$*SYSDOC. that contained
all the instructions for the common utilities that were installed,
most of which had originated at the University of Maryland. I built a
book containing all these "mini docs" and made it available to my
entire staff - having it in hand drastically cut the learning curve
when they were coming up to speed on navigating the system. The
important thing was that these were for NONSTANDARD utilities in
common use, but nowhere documented in the offical Unisys library.
>IPF and ED are there as well, but I figure IPF and ED are common Unisys
>apps... like VI and EMACS on Unix boxes.
>Oh yeah... what is FAS? Where do I look up how to use it?
FAS = File Application System. It has its own manuals.
>I'm sorry for the barrage of questions, but it seems like every task I do
>inspires more questions.
>Thanks in advance for all help,
>Barry Smith
Hope this helps a bit.
Being ordinary and nothing special is a full-time job.
mcma...@flash.net (Jim McMahon in real life)
David W. Schroth
George Ewins wrote:
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> George Ewins
> gew...@usa.net
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>
> > From: "Barry Smith" <bsm...@plan-sys.com>
> > Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys
> > Date: 17 Nov 1999 23:27:36 GMT
> > Subject: UNISYS ref/trn materials (was FAQ Question Number 1 - Newbie
> > reference materials)
> >
<snip>
> > I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
>
> I do not believe that any of the 1100's are supported on that OS level so it
> is more likely a 2200 or newer system. (any site still running an 1100 has
> some poor management - the cost reductions for power, HVAC and floor space
> make a good business case for replacing it with a newer system!) You will
> also see the operating system referred to as OS2200 and there may even be a
> stray reference to EXEC8 (a really old name). To normal applications, the OS
> level does not make that much difference. I have seen 15 year old absolutes
> that still work.
>
I'm pretty sure that /400s and /600s are still supported on 44R4D. I'm
not sure how great the reduction in environmental cost would be in going
from a /400 or /600 to a more recent model. I'm not sure where one
would find a reference to OS2200 - I'm not saying such references don't
exist, I'm just not aware of any. Exec 8, on the other hand, is almost
certainly still lurking in various odd corners...
<snip>
> > In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
> > No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
> >
> > Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
>
> It seems to me that it was part of CTS which is what Unisys terms a category
> 3 product (unsupported but we will still charge you for it). It is also not
> Y2K compliant.
>
I don't think that is the *official* definition of category 3...and I
suspect that most category 3 products are supplied "at no additional
cost" (i.e., they come with the OS). But I could be wrong.
<snip>
regards,
David W. Schroth
Colin Zealley
Whether it was chargeable or not was not defined.
But David's right that CTS is not Y2K-certified - and it's very outdated
nowadays. Not recommended, IMHO.
As an old @ED freak myself, I nevertheless use IPF as my editor of choice,
except for complex repetitive work where @ED's macros are so amazingly
flexible - and remarkably easy to use once you master the arcane syntax. I
run IPF with a large library of hand-crafted macros, which program all the
Uniscope F-keys and allow me to do things with one F-key or macro call such
as (an example) saving and running (@ADDing) the ECL file I'm currently
editing, putting the terminal into operator console mode while the file
runs, then when it finishes automatically pulling the spooled print result
back into the "lookspace" of IPF so you can check the results.
And of course IPF includes a full internal HELP/Tutorial (as long as your
site has got IPF User Assistance installed), which tells you (in
excruciating detail) how to do most things in IPF that you could do in raw
Demand Mode anyway.
As far as the 1100/2200/IX or Exec 8/OS1100/OS2200 argument goes, for
someone coming as a newbie to the environment, it simply isn't worth
bothering with the differences; they're mostly historical. It *is* worth
getting at the most up-to-date documentation available, of course - new
features get added all the time. People may talk about 1100, 2200 or
ClearPath IX, but for most purposes it really makes no difference.
Any manual on ECL (for Barry's benefit, that's Executive Control Language,
the name we use for the JCL on the 2200) will do to get the general gist of
how to use the system.
The 74 COBOL compiler that you mention, Barry, is usually referred to as
ASCII COBOL, or ACOB for short. But the more modern '85 standard compiler,
UCOB, will also compile '74-standard COBOL if you ask it nicely. So your
site might be using either compiler - you can tell by whether a compilation
listing starts with a line reading @ACOB or @UCOB.
The difference between ACOB and UCOB is in the object code that they
generate; UCOB programs are optimised for the modern virtual memory
architecture, whereas ACOB still thinks it's building programs for an old
real-memory 1100 machine. Acob-compiled programs run fine on a more modern
machine, but you'll usually get better performance from a UCOB-compiled
program than an ACOB-compiled one (although the UCOB version will almost
certainly occupy more memory).
David W. Schroth wrote in message <38343E97...@unisys.com>...
[snip]
>I'm pretty sure that /400s and /600s are still supported on 44R4D. I'm
>not sure how great the reduction in environmental cost would be in going
>from a /400 or /600 to a more recent model. I'm not sure where one
>would find a reference to OS2200 - I'm not saying such references don't
>exist, I'm just not aware of any.
Exec 8 or OS2200 - like I said, they're two names for the same thing. The
marketing people just decided that the old name of Exec 8 was getting too
dated (and after all, it actually stands for "Executive for the 1108", and
1108s are about 30 years out of date!) so they rebranded it as OS/1100, then
when they rebranded the 1100 as the 2200 the name changed again. And of
course the OS is now officially called ClearPath HMP/IX, or something like
that - assuming we haven't just rebranded it again as Unisys e-@ction
ClearPath IX Heterogeneous MultiProcessor Operating System, or something
equally memorable & snappy! <g>
On the other hand (don't tell the marketers), it still calls itself EXEC 8
internally in several places, and still refers to itself by that name when
talking to the system operators, last I noticed.
>Exec 8, on the other hand, is almost
>certainly still lurking in various odd corners...
Exec 8, OS/1100 or OS/2200 (and indeed Clearpath HMP/IX) are fundamentally
the same thing, just marketing rebrandings over a historical period. Someone
like Barry, migrating from the IBM environment with its plethora of
different OS's, has to get the handle on the fact that the OS we're talking
about has been single-source, uniform and basically upwards compatible
across all 1100/2200 platforms for over 30 years, so it really doesn't
matter much what you call it.
><snip>
>> > In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
>> > No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about
it.
>> >
>> > Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
>>
>> It seems to me that it was part of CTS which is what Unisys terms a
category
>> 3 product (unsupported but we will still charge you for it). It is also
not
>> Y2K compliant.
>>
@HELP is indeed part of CTS, and will be therefore be useless unless your
site is still using CTS (which is very unlikely, all the more so since you
say the command doesn't work for you). And if it did work, it would only
tell you about CTS anyway, not about the native environment.
There is no native HELP utility in Demand mode - it's a case of RTFM, I'm
afraid, unless you can find an unsupported utility somewhere. But if you use
IPF, then as I said above there is a very comprehensive Help & Tutorial
system in there.
Ron Schachel
documentation is available in Acrobat PDF format which allows for electronic
access and printing by our customers. PDF is the standard release format for
all Unisys book type documentation.
The releases 3.0, 4.0 and 4.1 are currently available from the Unisys support
web site that is available to customers with a support contract. HMP IX 5.0
should be available soon, it was released yesterday. You can download any PDF
books from this site for your personal library.
You can also borrow the CD, copy the entire CD to a hard disk locally or over a
LAN and install from it for your own use. The CD is only 400MB.
There is also the option to create a local Customer Web Site with HMP IX 4.0
and above that serves the Acrobat PDF files to a Web browser with Acrobat
Reader as a plugin. This allows anyone on your intranet access to the
documentation.
If you have any questions, please E-Mail me.
Ron Schachel
Unisys Roseville, Mn
Barry Smith wrote:
> In my last post, I mentioned that I'm new to Unisys.
>
> Thank you for your kind replies (and even a web link to Unisys's book
> site).
>
> Based upon the replies here in the newsgroup and a little information
> gatherred at a project meeting, I'll give you an update to the environment.
>
> Although I'm still attacking that UNISYS learning curve, I've gotten some
> answers to some questions.
>
> o All of the manuals that I can find are labeled Unisys 1100.
> o We are currently maintaining programs written in COBOL 74.
> o When I do an $$OPEN <site>, I see the message
> *UNISYS 1100 Operating System Level 44R4D-NE1-3C(RSI)*
>
> I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
>
> Oh, yeah...
> o At the project meeting, Net Services was chastised for not
> having set up Intraweb access to the Unisys Manuals on
> CD-ROM.
>
> So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
> access to it in any way yet.
>
> In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
> No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
>
> Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
>
> Lastly, are there any "utilities" distributed with 1100... something like
> the MVS ISPF 3.4 screen, or like MVS FileAid.
>
> As I was writing this post, I found @FTP... are there any Unisys ftp sites
> with utilities or docs that might be helpful?
>
> IPF and ED are there as well, but I figure IPF and ED are common Unisys
> apps... like VI and EMACS on Unix boxes.
>
> Oh yeah... what is FAS? Where do I look up how to use it?
>
> I'm sorry for the barrage of questions, but it seems like every task I do
> inspires more questions.
>
> Thanks in advance for all help,
>
Andrew Williams
is called) function return a valid 2-digit year.
Anybody need?
David W. Schroth wrote:
> George Ewins wrote:
> >
> > --
> > ---------------------------
> > George Ewins
> > gew...@usa.net
> > ---------------------------
> >
> > > From: "Barry Smith" <bsm...@plan-sys.com>
> > > Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc.
> > > Newsgroups: comp.sys.unisys
> > > Date: 17 Nov 1999 23:27:36 GMT
> > > Subject: UNISYS ref/trn materials (was FAQ Question Number 1 - Newbie
> > > reference materials)
> > >
> <snip>
> > > I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
> >
> > I do not believe that any of the 1100's are supported on that OS level so it
> > is more likely a 2200 or newer system. (any site still running an 1100 has
> > some poor management - the cost reductions for power, HVAC and floor space
> > make a good business case for replacing it with a newer system!) You will
> > also see the operating system referred to as OS2200 and there may even be a
> > stray reference to EXEC8 (a really old name). To normal applications, the OS
> > level does not make that much difference. I have seen 15 year old absolutes
> > that still work.
> >
>
> I'm pretty sure that /400s and /600s are still supported on 44R4D. I'm
> not sure how great the reduction in environmental cost would be in going
> from a /400 or /600 to a more recent model. I'm not sure where one
> would find a reference to OS2200 - I'm not saying such references don't
> exist, I'm just not aware of any. Exec 8, on the other hand, is almost
> certainly still lurking in various odd corners...
> <snip>
> > > In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
> > > No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
> > >
> > > Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
> >
> > It seems to me that it was part of CTS which is what Unisys terms a category
> > 3 product (unsupported but we will still charge you for it). It is also not
> > Y2K compliant.
> >
>
> I don't think that is the *official* definition of category 3...and I
> suspect that most category 3 products are supplied "at no additional
> cost" (i.e., they come with the OS). But I could be wrong.
>
> <snip>
>
> regards,
>
> David W. Schroth
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I have just started a job at a Unisys shop, but I have an IBM background, also
this is the first time on this newsgroup. I am in about the same position as
Barry Smith. (Barry, are you working at Pax River?) I have been to Unisys'
web site to see if I could purchase some personal reference material at a
reasonable cost but was confused by the titles and discriptions as to what would
be useful. Would you have the number for that disk or for something more
applicable? Thanks for any help you may be able to give.
James Johnson
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:04:45 -0600, Ron Schachel <ronald....@unisys.com>
wrote:
>> I think I can safely assume that I am using Unisys 1100 ... not 2200.
>>
>> Oh, yeah...
>> o At the project meeting, Net Services was chastised for not
>> having set up Intraweb access to the Unisys Manuals on
>> CD-ROM.
>>
>> So, the Unisys docs ARE on CD here in this shop... but no one has LAN
>> access to it in any way yet.
>>
>> In my learning experiences, I ran across an @HELP command.
>> No one here knows much about it, or they aren't telling me much about it.
>>
>> Is @HELP something helpful to know? Should I persue it?
>>
hans rutgers
OKE, welcome !!!!!!!
I have seen your questions regarding 1100 versus 2200.
The answer to all of this is rather simple.
We had 1100 for (too) many years, and the marketing people decided it was
time for a face lift.
So they decided to go for "2200". Just marketing you know, it means
nothing in software terms.
If you look at the software 2200 doensn't come in to the stuff.
Software being 1100 or otherwise always runs on most (if not all) machines.
The difference between machine /400 /500 /600 or whatever
is just speed, or better memory or better channels.
These things are always transparant to the sw programs.
Hope you're happy with the answers.
best greetings
hans rutgers
Dick Anderson
shift to 2200. I am still running utilities I wrote back in the early 1970's
on 1110 - 1100/40.
"hans rutgers" <rut...@knoware.nl> wrote in message
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keith...@notes.sabre.com
"Dick Anderson" <rca...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Absolutely correct. When they ran out of 1100/xx numbers, they did a
left
> shift to 2200. I am still running utilities I wrote back in the early
1970's
> on 1110 - 1100/40.
Yea, but you didn't use "extended" memory from the 1100/40's if they're
still running. ;-)
I still miss my inverted TTY handler I used to dial out from the GCS to
pull fixes down from TRACE. Kinda tricky running a Smartmodem with it,
but the FEP's were never quite as fun.
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Before you buy.
hans rutgers
Glad to see there still using the 1100/2200 series machines out there !!!
If you want info please look at http://start.at/univac
sinc yours
Hans