Terminal Emulation Software for a T27 under Windows?
Ralph Wade Phillips
Are there any "inexpensive" terminal emulators available for Win98SE
that emulate a T27 terminal over a serial link? I have a customer whose
time share supplier is moving from Unisys to IBM mainframes, and the
terminals are changing from T27s to PCs running a TN3270 emulator. During
the month long cut over, however, it would be REALLY nice if we could avoid
having both the PC and the old T27 terminal on the desks ...
I've only found ONE emulator that does serial T27, and it's about
$600/seat (WRQ Reflection for Unix and Digital). Are there any others out
there?
Thanks for any info.
Oh - since I'm not sure about my news feed, could I get a copy of any
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RwP
Regor
will run as a T27 and TN3270
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Alex
different hosts and our customers connecting to Unisys mainframes or
ClearPath Servers are using Attachmate's Infoconnect32 (EXPENSIVE) or
Virtual Soft's PCLink!32 (MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE). Virtual's link is:
http://www.virtualgrp.com/ Virtual has a 16bit product (PCLink! Ultra-Lite)
and a 32bit product (PCLink!32).
I hope this helps.
Alex
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Edward Reid
> Are there any "inexpensive" terminal emulators available for Win98SE
> that emulate a T27 terminal over a serial link? I have a customer whose
> time share supplier is moving from Unisys to IBM mainframes
Does your customer really not have Telnet access to the Unisys A/NX/LX?
If the PCs can telnet to the A-frame, then there are a lot of choices
-- with the most notable low-cost choice being Don Gregory's
CATT($69/seat, see http://www.gregpub.com). Serial (presumably meaning
poll/select) connectivity is long obsolete. Ten years ago there were
several choices, but I'm surprised that you found even one today. I'd
really push for Telnet access if I were you.
Edward Reid
Ralph Wade Phillips
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Oh, for Telnet access I've found several. BUT - these terminals are
connected via RS232 serial ports (did I mention that we're replacing some
honest-to-God two even say Burroughs T27 terminals? No, I didn't, did I
... ) to a Motorola router (6250, I think) which is connected via a leased
line to St. Pete, Florida. New system will be using TN3270 terminals, and
what I'm wanting to do is avoid having both the new PCs running T27 and the
old T27s on the desk at one time.
I can make that two programs - Reflection for Unix and Digital does
T27 over a serial link at about $600 a seat, and PCLink! which I don't know
how much it is.
Everything else I've found has been Telnet access.
So - there's ANOTHER choice. Does anyone have, or know where I can
rent or lease, a terminal server I could connect to the Motorola router and
to the Ethernet backbone to use Telnet for three months max?
As another entry into "inexpensive T27 emulator", for those that DO
use Telnet access, EMU does several flavors and can do both T27 and TN3270
at the same time (which, if EMU did serial, would be PERFECT for the
conversion period ... )
RwP
David Galvin
probably less than $600 US. See it at:
http://www.ctc-core.com/products/prod-uav-ctcbridge.html
Also, PC-Link (mentioned in another post) is $195 for the ultra-lite
version. See it at:
http://www.virtualgrp.com/virtualsoft/ultralite.htm
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Joe Silagi
1) you can get Reflection for Unix and Digital (includes T27 emulation) from
Amazon for $280.99
2) Reflection's T27 emulation only supports telnet access to the A Series
Joe Silagi
WRQ, Inc.
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> A couple of corrections.
>
> 1) you can get Reflection for Unix and Digital (includes T27 emulation)
from
> Amazon for $280.99
We'll have to look at that then.
> 2) Reflection's T27 emulation only supports telnet access to the A Series
Erm - What is this "COM1" setting doing then? I had somehow
presumed that it meant that Reflection would work serially.
>
>
> Joe Silagi
> WRQ, Inc.
Pass it off to a bad configuration, then. The 60 day eval says it
does serial, and I was going to hook one up to see if it works OK. But if
it doesn't, we might just leave the T27's up for the two month changeover.
Was hoping to not, since the desks are crowded ENOUGH as it is.
But, if we have to, we have to.
RwP
Edward Reid
> Oh, for Telnet access I've found several. BUT - these terminals are
> connected via RS232 serial ports (did I mention that we're replacing some
> honest-to-God two even say Burroughs T27 terminals? No, I didn't, did I
Actually, you did ...
> ... ) to a Motorola router (6250, I think) which is connected via a leased
> line to St. Pete, Florida.
Yes, but the question is whether the host in St Pete is CAPABLE of
running a Telnet server. That host is what you didn't tell us anything
about. IIRC you implied that it was some sort of service bureau, but I
didn't save the message.
If it's a very old host that doesn't have TCP/IP built in, then your
choices are 1) keep trying to find a poll/select emulator, possibly the
CTC one, 2) keep the T27s (as you mentioned), or 3) install a TCP/IP
card on the host (Upstanding Systems used to make one, though I don't
know if it's still available since all new A/NX/LX systems already have
TCP/IP).
But if the host is not that old -- and IIRC there are no supported
A/NX/LX systems left that don't have TCP/IP built in -- it may be that
all you need is to enable and configure TCP/IP on the host and give it
an Internet connection. Then you have lots of choices, as discussed in
the newsgroup.
Edward Reid
Joe Silagi
support for poll/select. If you need support for poll/select I'm pretty
sure that Core product will do that.
Joe Silagi
WRQ, Inc.
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L Ramsey
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L Ramsey
system : an excellent Java-based emulator (WebStation for Java), in addition
to a 16-bit emulator (NX/View). There is an inexpensive emulator from
Asgard Software, one from Core Technologies, and from Upstanding Systems
(and others I can't remember). The Attachmate products are by far the most
expensive. Hope this is helpful. You might check out Unisphere magazine:
http://www.newsdirectory.com/go/?f=&r=csy&u=www.unispheremag.com or Unisys
World http://www.newsdirectory.com/go/?f=&r=cap&u=www.unisysworld.com .
They have a vendor section where many of these products are listed.
good luck
ler - my opinions are my own and in no way reflect any formally or
informally stated positions of my company
no matter where you go, there you are
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I found a terminal emulator that works well with RS-232 links.
"PCLink! UltraLite for Windows" is the package. After explaining to the
salesman what we were looking for, they were able to work out a reduced rate
(from the normal $280/copy) for the 3 month usage (I won't say how MUCH less
... but it was low enough for the customer to bite.)
The biggest problem with these ladies using the terminals was
retraining because of the lack of the T27 specific keys. That wasn't too
bad, though.
PrintScreen is the hardest, and I'll be tackling that later this
week. In the mean time, they just mouse-click the printer icon and hit
"ENTER" and there's the screen.
They do like those 17" monitors better than the 13" / 14" T27
screens, though ... <grins>
RwP
Derek Logie
java applets (called viewers) for T27, UTS, VT, TN3270 and TN5250.
These are the thin client solution, requiring only a current web browser and
JVM on the desktop. They are also considerably less expensive that the thick
client solution !
Derek Logie
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Wanda
properly. The carriage returns are carried along with the pasted data which
causes problems (at least on our database)!
Wanda
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current shipping 32-bit product - MillenniumII 4.2 works fine - that's what
I use. Cut & paste also works properly in the thin client product
(e-Vantage).
Derek ...
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to check your version.
Derek ...
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Freenetname
Wanda
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of text from MARC and pasted it around the screen - no CR's, etc appearing
in the pasted text. The actual version of the T27 Viewer is 2.2.3.102 .
Derek ...
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Edward Reid
> One problem with the Attachmate t27 emulation is cut and paste do not work
> properly.
Over the years I've used, or at least tried, many of the available
terminal emulators. The Attachmate one (whatever the emulator itself is
called, which is always confusing) has consistently been by far the
most difficult to use. Someone posted that this particular problem is
fixed, but the overall use remains very very difficult.
Upstanding Systems' FasTERM is the benchmark: fast, capable, versatile,
easy to use -- and expensive. I've only seen it run with their own
server and I'm not sure if it does standard telnet.
http://www.upstanding.com (but the home page appears blank to me).
Quickware: very good emulator, cost still well in 3 figures, solid and
scriptable. http://www.qw.com.
CATT: from Don Gregory, a very good emulator with no scripting beyond
key programming (not a limitation for most uses), cost in 2 figures
puts the cost far below the others. Fully functional downloadable demo
(a godsend when stranded somewhere without decent terminal emulation
software). http://www.gregpub.com.
Those are the ones I've used *and* can recommend. CATT is the one I'm
currently using. I hear that there are some good ones that I haven't
used, and I generally don't wear out my fingers writing about things I
don't like or don't know anything about.
Edward Reid
Derek Logie
the feature set you want - thick client, thin client, feature rich (OLE
automation/DDE/HLLAPI/Scripting), feature lite (just green screen
emulation), 16 bit, 32 bit.
I guess the problem with offering a number of choices is it makes choosing
the right one more difficult - I guess the rule is the more features you
want, the more you pay.
I personally use the thick client solution (32-bit INFOConnect Intercom) on
my desktop in the office, but for easy access at home I browse to a web
server and download the emulation in a java applet - click and it's loaded.
No additional software (other than a JVM & IE5) on my laptop.
As far as configuring the thick client, the wizards in the product make this
very easy - just give a station name, ip address (or dns name) of the
A-Series and away you go ...
Derek ...
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