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Tandy 1100FD equivalent floppy drives?

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Mark

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Jul 12, 2003, 5:04:25 PM7/12/03
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I understand the Tandy 1100FD is really a Panasonic or at least
designed by them. I am looking at a couple of different portable
Panasonic electronic typewriters which themselves use a 720k floppy.
Their floppy drives certainly look similar to the one in my 1100FD
(and likewise are made by Matsushita/Panasonic). The drive in the
Tandy 1100FD has a number EME-213AMC. The one in this one typewriter
(W905) is EME-113KG. They certainly seem similar by all visible
indications. Could I use the EME-113KG to replace the bad drive in
the 1100FD, or would this be a bad idea because of the possibility of
some subtle electrical variation between these drives that could harm
my 1100FD? Thanks.

Rick

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Jul 13, 2003, 9:24:36 PM7/13/03
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Without a technical manual there's no easy way to tell, especially if
the 1100FD was one of the Tandy computers that powered the floppy
through the ribbon cable. Connecting a drive not configured
*specifically* for that computer can fry the drive.

As these drives are so old I couldn't locate one reference for either
model on the net. You might be able to get a spec sheet from Panasonic,
but again they're old that the info might be long gone.

http://www.pasc.panasonic.com/faq.asp#top

FWIW a lot of word processors used proprietary drives. You may even have
just a single sided drive in the word processor.

freddolan

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Jul 13, 2003, 10:34:03 PM7/13/03
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The floppy drive in the 1100FD and the 1110HD usually fails due to stretch
in the belt drive.

It can be repaired by replacing the old belt with a new 7.5" long , 0.22"
wide , 0.25" thick belt.

Tandy at one time sold general belts and this size (P/N 11241809) met this
size requirement.It was located on page 6C3-9 of the belt section.

Good Luck!

Fred Dolan


freddolan

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Jul 13, 2003, 10:39:26 PM7/13/03
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Please note the belt is 0.025" Thick not 0.25" thick.


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Mark

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Jul 14, 2003, 1:32:46 AM7/14/03
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Thanks for your message.

The floppy drives on these two different Panasonic word
processor/typewriters (which I picked up in the hope of using one of
their drives to replace the bad one on my 1100FD) do use the ribbons
that carry the power, as with the drive on the 1100FD. But then, I
don't know whether they are single sided drives except that all three
are 720k, and don't know whether there are any subtle but deadly
electrical variations between them. (If I fry the replacement drive,
that's one thing, but if I were to fry the laptop itself that would be
a tragedy.)

By the way, I said in my earlier post that I understand the Tandy
1100FD is really a Panasonic or at least designed by them. I now
believe I said this in error. The Tandy 1100FD may be almost the same
as a certain Panasonic model, but based on what I now am reading
elsewhere at this group, the two units were designed - very
thoughtfully, I think - by Tandy, not by Panasonic. Sorry for my
error.

Mark

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Jul 14, 2003, 1:34:46 AM7/14/03
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Thank you for this tip!

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David Evans

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Jul 14, 2003, 2:01:25 AM7/14/03
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In article <1d7f9014.03071...@posting.google.com>,

Mark <markt...@juno.com> wrote:
>By the way, I said in my earlier post that I understand the Tandy
>1100FD is really a Panasonic or at least designed by them. I now
>believe I said this in error. The Tandy 1100FD may be almost the same
>as a certain Panasonic model, but based on what I now am reading
>elsewhere at this group, the two units were designed - very
>thoughtfully, I think - by Tandy, not by Panasonic.

I believe that it's the Panasonic CF150B. I had that version, since it was
several hundred dollars cheaper than the Tandy one. Too bad it was stolen.

Anyway, FWIW the machine I had did not include a hard disk.


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Rick

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Jul 14, 2003, 3:01:47 AM7/14/03
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Mark wrote:
>
> Thanks for your message.
>
> The floppy drives on these two different Panasonic word
> processor/typewriters (which I picked up in the hope of using one of
> their drives to replace the bad one on my 1100FD) do use the ribbons
> that carry the power, as with the drive on the 1100FD. But then, I
> don't know whether they are single sided drives except that all three
> are 720k, and don't know whether there are any subtle but deadly
> electrical variations between them. (If I fry the replacement drive,
> that's one thing, but if I were to fry the laptop itself that would be
> a tragedy.)
>
> By the way, I said in my earlier post that I understand the Tandy
> 1100FD is really a Panasonic or at least designed by them. I now
> believe I said this in error. The Tandy 1100FD may be almost the same
> as a certain Panasonic model, but based on what I now am reading
> elsewhere at this group, the two units were designed - very
> thoughtfully, I think - by Tandy, not by Panasonic. Sorry for my
> error.

AFAIK they are Matsushita by Panasonic drives. They certainly are
Matsushita model numbers. The same model number system is used on more
current models. The 1100 computers are "same as" models manufactured by
someone else - IIRC Panasonic actually made them, the only big exception
being the OEM ROM programs Tandy put in. Frank D. may actually know how
much, if at all, Tandy was actually involved in designing the computer.

David Evans

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Jul 14, 2003, 3:13:33 AM7/14/03
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Mark

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Jul 14, 2003, 2:31:25 PM7/14/03
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I have, and thanks for pointing it out. If I knew that one of these
other Matsushita drives from these Panasonic typewriters could be used
in the 1100FD safely, then it would be nice because it would be a
direct replacement. But it looks like there wasn't just one standard
Matsushita 720k floppy as I had hoped, but a whole bunch of similar
but different ones, and anyway even if I could interchange them, I
still would be stuck with a belt-driven floppy drive. With the
standard, 1.44 direct-driven replacement, and the bounteous supply of
them, I would never have a problem again. This probably is what I
will do after first trying the belt replacement mentioned by Fred
Dolan. Thanks to you both! By the way: if anyone is retiring an
1100FD and selling it reasonably, I would be interested.

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