Russ
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Russell Wizinsky wrote in message ...
I have a copy of the cassette version of EDTASM I'd be willing to part
with.
Tom
Tom
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Mo wrote in message ...
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Well what was it I had on my cassette only Model I? I remember it
taking 10+ minutes to load, and sometimes taking two or three tries
to get it to load.
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>> Mo,
>>
>> I have a copy of the cassette version of EDTASM I'd be willing to part
>> with.
>>
>> Tom
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>
>
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Well Mo - I think you'd be far better off with the Musosys version
having used both of them - and both to the point where I decided I
didn't care for assembly language.
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> Well Mo - I think you'd be far better off with the Musosys version
> having used both of them - and both to the point where I decided I
> didn't care for assembly language.
>
I never really cared for assembly language period. I would rather
code in a high level language and pay the speed penalty. Of course
with C, it is not too high a price but with other languages...
I used to program my Coco with DEFT Pascal which was a bit
buggy but a cool version of Pascal. It had quite a few extentions
that were nice. But under OS-9, I used C.
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I went back through my CD of TRS-80 files.
I have a core image of the cassette version, and a text file of
instructions for the cassette version (in Electric Pencil format) if
you want them, but I suspect the disk version will be more useful for
you.
Brendon
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Also have the manual with it
Cart - Cat No 26-3250
Manual - Cat No 26-3250
Date 1982
Also have a ton of TRS stuff in my Garage,,,
I have a Model II with a 8 Inch Disk Drive, come with a Disk Drive
Expansion Unit as well that can hold 3 more drives...
Two Model 4...one works and is in very good shape...the other is doa
A couple of coco's
A trs 80 4 pin Graphic color printer in Orig box
Lots and lots of Books and manuals for trs 80's
8 inch disks for the model II
Some coco games
coco videotex
coco color file
More there this id just off the top of my head.
Its all for sale....need room.
In article <YK347.340$3s4.1...@nnrp3.sbc.net>, mygranny@'nospam'swbell.net
says...
For the Color Computer, yes. For the Model I and Model III there *was* a
cassette version.
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You're talking about the CoCo. There was a Model I cassette EDTASM. It's
available at
http://www.trs-80.com/
Tom Lake
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"Bill Vermillion" <bi...@wjv.com> wrote in message
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> I never really cared for assembly language period. I would rather
> code in a high level language and pay the speed penalty. Of course
> with C, it is not too high a price but with other languages...
Bah! Pussy! These new-fangled compiled languages... S'pose you got your
sewerage and electricity hooked up just because you could as well!?! :P
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Mark McDougall wrote:
> william strutts wrote:
>
> > I never really cared for assembly language period. I would rather
> > code in a high level language and pay the speed penalty. Of course
> > with C, it is not too high a price but with other languages...
>
> Bah! Pussy! These new-fangled compiled languages... S'pose you got your
> sewerage and electricity hooked up just because you could as well!?! :P
>
> Regards,
>
Where was anyone going to put a fancy compiler back in the days
when computers were computers?
Not enough memory, most likely no hard drive, and floppy disks
that had fairly limited space, or just a cassette recorder
to save files.
I splurged on the C compiler for the OS9, and then never used it.
I wasn't interested in making large programs, and it just seemed
silly to go through all that churning, and all the extra overhead
in the resulting program, just to be able to say it was done in
C.
I didn't even use much of an assembler until I got the CoCo.
My Kim-1 I did all assemblying by hand. With my OSI Superboard
II, bought twenty years ago this fall, I got the Apple mini-assembler
going on it, but it was often still easier to just code by hand.
You'd get used to the most common op-codes. (The 6809, with
its wide selection of address modes, just got a bit too complicated
for easy hand assembly.)
I think compilers on home computers rose in importance as the computers
and their operating systems got fancier. There was very little you needed
to know about the computer, indeed there was very little to know
about the computer, back twenty years or so ago. You could add
two numbers and get a result without having to learn much. But once
the operating systems got so fancy (read GUI's), you had to learn
a tremendous amount before you could add those two numbers. Compilers,
with their libraries, became quite useful at that point.
Of course, back in the days of the OSI and TRS-80, you would
often see BASIC compilers. SInce many were warned off assembly
language, they were using BASIC and it did have limitations
because it was an interpretive language. But the BASIC
compilers from that era that I remember were a subset
of the BASIC in ROM, and if I remember, often tried to use
as much of what was in ROM as possible.
Michael
Actually, I programmed in DEFT Pascal on the Coco. It was
a bit quirky but it was a nice compiler. EDTASM is an assembler
which means that it is a ASCII text file version of the actual opcodes
and hence it is compiled into actual Opcodes. Technically the
only way to write without an assembler/compiler is to hand code
using opcodes. I did that for a class once using a 6800 processor
and a hex pad. It was a HeathKit breadboard/hex pad computer.
Tedious. It made me appreciate the Cross-compiler that I used
later in the class on a DEC VAX.
The only Assembler I sort of liked was a Macro assembler that
they used to use on the PDP-11 in RSX called Macro 11. I got
my first few gray hairs programming in that beast though. ;)