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PLAnet85

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Oct 27, 2009, 2:41:48 PM10/27/09
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Hi to all!
Someone knows ASTRO software by Loquor Enterprises?
ASTRO - A PLANETARIUM IN YOUR LAP - is an astronomical software also
reviewed on May 1985 Portable 100 (page 56-57).
I'm looking for it, someone knows where to find it?
Thanks.
PLAnet85


N Morrison

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Oct 28, 2009, 4:28:41 AM10/28/09
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PLAnet85

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Oct 28, 2009, 3:25:57 PM10/28/09
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"N Morrison" <anoth...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Oct 27, 11:41 am, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:
>> Hi to all!
>> Someone knows ASTRO software by Loquor Enterprises?
>

Hi Morrison, thanks for posting.
I already know http://club100.org/ and http://club100.org/list.html.
On mail list others have already asked about ASTRO but no reply.
On this newsgroup someone has already asked but no reply, so I tried again.
I would really like to have that program but I am now convinced I will never
find it.:,-(((
Thanks.
PLAnet85


james

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Oct 28, 2009, 10:29:16 PM10/28/09
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:41:48 +0100, "PLAnet85" <inv...@invalid.it>
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|==============

One problem in using any planetarium programs written in the 80's that
has not been maintained is updated ephemerides in the database of deep
space objects. Especially if the planetarium program does not
compensate for proper motion of the objects.

Nice to have for historical purposes but if one were trying to use it
to point a telescope to a deep space object may find it off in part of
the database.

james

PLAnet85

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Oct 29, 2009, 2:43:26 PM10/29/09
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>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:41:48 +0100, "PLAnet85" <inv...@invalid.it>
>> wrote:
>>
>> |Hi to all!
>> |Someone knows ASTRO software by Loquor Enterprises?
>> |ASTRO - A PLANETARIUM IN YOUR LAP -

> One problem in using any planetarium programs written in the 80's that


> has not been maintained is updated ephemerides in the database of deep
> space objects. Especially if the planetarium program does not
> compensate for proper motion of the objects.

Hi james,
I fully agree with you.

> Nice to have for historical purposes but if one were trying to use it
> to point a telescope to a deep space object may find it off in part of
> the database.

I agree on this point also.
I try the program for its technical and historic side, I like to study it
closely.
I think it's a masterpiece, for me it's almost a miracle for what it can do
in the
small TRS-80 Model 100!

> james

Thanks.
PLAnet85


N Morrison

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Oct 30, 2009, 2:34:38 PM10/30/09
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On Oct 28, 12:25 pm, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:

> I already knowhttp://club100.org/andhttp://club100.org/list.html.


> On mail list others have already asked about ASTRO but no reply.

Have you looked on AOL/Compuserve in the Classic Computers section?
The files are disguised as messages but many are there.

We also have the old full Compuserve library to search elsewhere.

N Morrison

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Oct 30, 2009, 2:41:48 PM10/30/09
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On Oct 29, 11:43 am, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:

> I agree on this point also.
> I try the program for its technical and historic side, I like to study it
> closely.
> I think it's a masterpiece, for me it's almost a miracle for what it can do
> in the
> small TRS-80 Model 100!

See
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=WTH&q=%22Loquor+Enterprises%22+-liquor&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

Might be a pointer to more information. I suspect no one we know
bought a copy - that did happen!

BTW, see this: http://mymc10.tripod.com/astronomy.htm

Neil

PLAnet85

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:04:11 PM11/4/09
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"N Morrison" <anoth...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Hi Morrison, thanks for the answer.
Sorry, I don't understand, what do you mean?
Have you a link?
I already know the Compuserve archive but I haven't found any information
about ASTRO.
Thanks.
PLAnet85


PLAnet85

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"N Morrison" <anoth...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Oct 29, 11:43 am, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:

>See
>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=WTH&q=%22Loquor+Enterprises%22+-


>liquor&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
>
>Might be a pointer to more information. I suspect no one we know
>bought a copy - that did happen!
>
>BTW, see this: http://mymc10.tripod.com/astronomy.htm
>
>Neil

Hi Morrison, thanks for the reply.
Ok well, thanks for the useful link, But I'd like to try ASTRO.
Thanks.
PLAnet85


Jim Leonard

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Nov 5, 2009, 10:41:42 AM11/5/09
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Wait -- the full Compuserve TANDY library, or is there an archive of
all the file libraries somewhere? And where is the AOL/Compuserve
archive? I was under the impression all of Compuserve was lost but if
there is an archive of files/boards/etc. I would really love to know
where it is...

N Morrison

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:23:10 PM11/6/09
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On Nov 5, 7:41 am, Jim Leonard <mobyga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wait -- the full Compuserve TANDY library, or is there an archive of
> all the file libraries somewhere?  And where is the AOL/Compuserve
> archive?  I was under the impression all of Compuserve was lost but if
> there is an archive of files/boards/etc. I would really love to know
> where it is...

Ask on the Club100 mail list.

What's left of the Compuserve stuff is still on Compuserve under Old
Computers ow whatever it is called.

N Morrison

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:30:35 PM11/6/09
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On Nov 4, 12:08 pm, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:

> Hi Morrison, thanks for the reply.
> Ok well, thanks for the useful link, But I'd like to try ASTRO.
> Thanks.
> PLAnet85

Set up a search on eBay - you never know. I did finally get a copy of
the book "Astro Navigation by Pocket Computer" (Mike Harris 1989)
there.

turnkit

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:55:51 PM11/25/09
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After typing the message below I realized that not everyone unlists
their phone number. Here's a listing for Hargraves from
whitepages.com if you have the chutzpah to call and ask for his code.
Hope you "go for it!"

Robt F Hargraves
7 Cuttings Cor
Hanover, NH 03755
(603) 643-5080
Household: Ann D Hargraves

===

Also, according to that copyright file, it looks like the "Astro"
software from Loquor Enterprises (1984) might be on file in a
repository somewhere. ...

After checking the domain link... this *is* a copy of a registration
at the U.S. copyright office. So at one time the U.S. government
apparently had a copy on file.

If you get Robert Hargraves on the telephone you might ask him if he
remembers filing an electronic or printed version with the U.S.
Copyright office. This might stir some memory about copies of the
code, and where he has a print out possibly.

Also, I think in my last message I believe I wrote that Robert F.
Hargraves, Jr. was possibly born in 1938. This entry actually lists
the date "1939" for something. (I keyed it incorrectly from memory.)

ref:
http://bulk.resource.org/copyright/hids/hid_13/hid_13841200-13841499.txt
http://bulk.resource.org/copyright/

===

I had copied the raw data from the .txt file above (and added carriage
returns to clean it up) but after some search-tinkering I found the
current record in the copyright office with very easy to read field
descriptions! Nice that Hargraves had taken the time register it.
Really though all this does in helping you search for the code is help
you to know the author's name and a birth year for him. Which is
actually quite helpful because you can use the "privateeye.com" link
above to find him.

-
http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=16&ti=1,16&Search_Arg=hargraves%20robert&Search_Code=NALL&CNT=25&PID=_rW0mmSh6uA1b5tVsXMbSvCofk3l&SEQ=20091125214846&SID=19

Astro : a planetarium in your lap.

Type of Work: Computer File
Registration Number / Date: TX0001503211 / 1985-01-24
Title: Astro : a planetarium in your lap.
Description: 27 p., printout + 1 magnetic tape.
Copyright Claimant: Robert F. Hargraves, Jr., d.b.a. Loquor
Enterprises
Date of Creation: 1984
Date of Publication: 1984-10-31
Authorship on Application: computer software program & user’s guide:
Robert F. Hargraves, Jr. (author of anon. contribution)
Basis of Claim: New Matter: "computer software expression, editorial
matter, user’s guide."
Names: Hargraves, Robert F., Jr., 1939-
Loquor Enterprises

PLAnet85

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Nov 26, 2009, 3:53:41 PM11/26/09
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"turnkit" <tur...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>After typing the message below I realized that not everyone unlists
>their phone number. Here's a listing for Hargraves from
>whitepages.com if you have the chutzpah to call and ask for his code.
>Hope you "go for it!"
>
>Robt F Hargraves
>7 Cuttings Cor
>Hanover, NH 03755
>(603) 643-5080
>Household: Ann D Hargraves

Hi turnkit, thanks for the answer.
Approach to the problem very interesting, many thanks!
Now I have found this: http://snipurl.com/tffoz
No mention of Loquor Enterprises, but maybe ...
"Hunting continues".
Thanks again!
PLAnet85


turnkit

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Nov 26, 2009, 8:23:07 PM11/26/09
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On Nov 26, 2:53 pm, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:
> "turnkit" <turn...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggionews:12d24789-3447-4b70...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...

Interesting idea to google the address too.

I saw the "Robert Hargraves" and "thorium" lecturer/writer but even
though they seemed to both be possibly physicists and on the east
coast I was suspicious that they were one in the same. Good find!

So on that message board were you able to send him a text? My
experience has been that for something like this if you can get a
voice call you can impress your enthusiasm for an author's work much
better than in a simple email.

Please keep us posted.

PLAnet85

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"turnkit" <tur...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Nov 26, 2:53 pm, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:
> "turnkit" <turn...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel
> messaggionews:12d24789-3447-4b70...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...

>> Hi turnkit, thanks for the answer.


>> Approach to the problem very interesting, many thanks!
>> Now I have found this:http://snipurl.com/tffoz
>> No mention of Loquor Enterprises, but maybe ...
>

>Interesting idea to google the address too.

Hi turnkit, thanks for the reply.
However your idea is the best!

>I saw the "Robert Hargraves" and "thorium" lecturer/writer but even
>though they seemed to both be possibly physicists and on the east
>coast I was suspicious that they were one in the same. Good find!

Unfortunately I suspect it also.

>So on that message board were you able to send him a text?

No, I'm not a registered user but I found his email address.

> My experience has been that for something like this if you can get a
>voice call you can impress your enthusiasm for an author's work much
>better than in a simple email.

You are right, but I'm in Europe and my English is not so good.
I prefer to contact him via email, if he is the right person then I'll see
what to do.

>Please keep us posted.

I will not fail to do so.
Thanks again!
PLAnet85


PLAnet85

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"turnkit" <tur...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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On Nov 26, 2:53 pm, "PLAnet85" <inva...@invalid.it> wrote:
> "turnkit" <turn...@gmail.com> ha scritto nel
> messaggionews:12d24789-3447-4b70...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
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>Please keep us posted.

Hi turnkit, hi to all!
Good news, the person is the right one!
He is the author of the program.
I contacted him by email and he very kindly replied to me and sent me the
program!
Thanks for the help turnkit!
PLAnet85


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