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Peter THOMA$

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May 3, 2003, 9:20:15 AM5/3/03
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Art Studio 128
Adobe Photoshop 7

Interface 2 Joystick
USB 6-button pad

Prestel
Internet

48K Basic
Safe Mode

Waiting for tape to load
Waiting for PC to boot up

C90 'back ups'
Kazaa

Turbo Esprit
Grand Theft Auto

Rochdale Balrog
Harry Potter

R Tape Loading Error
This program has performed an illegal operation and will be closed
down

Redefine keys
Calibrate joypad

Mum hoovering
Phone line disconnecting

Commodore 64s
Paperweights

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LCD

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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

> Art Studio 128
> Adobe Photoshop 7
>

Paint Shop pro

>
> Interface 2 Joystick
> USB 6-button pad
>

with vibrations!

>
> Prestel
> Internet
>

Wireless LAN!

>
> 48K Basic
> Safe Mode
>

Can you really code in safe mode?

>
> Waiting for tape to load
> Waiting for PC to boot up
>

Waiting for next error in Window$

>
> C90 'back ups'
> Kazaa
>

Kazaa is $hit, how about Kazaa Lite, eMule/eDonkey, WinMX and
binary newsgroups?

>
> Turbo Esprit
> Grand Theft Auto
>

GTA 3.

>
> Rochdale Balrog
> Harry Potter
>

Who is Rochdale Balrog, is this a magican?

>
> R Tape Loading Error
> This program has performed an illegal operation and will be closed
> down
>

Yeah, that´s completly right!!!

>
> Redefine keys
> Calibrate joypad
>

You can still redefine keys in PC game$.

>
> Mum hoovering
> Phone line disconnecting
>

Wife hoovering...
Who is still using non-broadband internet connection?

>
> Commodore 64s
> Paperweights
>

Was it not C64SX ?

Spectrum 128
Mega big tower PC.


LCD

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May 3, 2003, 1:12:37 PM5/3/03
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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

> Art Studio 128
> Adobe Photoshop 7
>

Paint Shop pro

>
> Interface 2 Joystick
> USB 6-button pad
>

with vibrations!

>
> Prestel
> Internet
>

Wireless LAN!

>
> 48K Basic
> Safe Mode
>

Can you really code in safe mode?

>


> Waiting for tape to load
> Waiting for PC to boot up
>

Waiting for next error in Window$

>
> C90 'back ups'
> Kazaa
>

Kazaa is $hit, how about Kazaa Lite, eMule/eDonkey, WinMX and
binary newsgroups?

>


> Turbo Esprit
> Grand Theft Auto
>

GTA 3.

>
> Rochdale Balrog
> Harry Potter
>

Who is Rochdale Balrog, is this a magican?

>


> R Tape Loading Error
> This program has performed an illegal operation and will be closed
> down
>

Yeah, that´s completly right!!!

>
> Redefine keys
> Calibrate joypad
>

You can still redefine keys in PC game$.

>


> Mum hoovering
> Phone line disconnecting
>

Wife hoovering...

The Starglider

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May 3, 2003, 1:37:12 PM5/3/03
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On Sat, 03 May 2003 17:09:50 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:

>
>
>"Peter THOMA$" wrote:
>
>> Art Studio 128
>> Adobe Photoshop 7
>>
>
>Paint Shop pro

Paint Shop Pro is not a patch on Photoshop.


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Peter THOMA$

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May 3, 2003, 2:02:49 PM5/3/03
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On Sat, 03 May 2003 17:09:50 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:

>> Art Studio 128
>> Adobe Photoshop 7

>Paint Shop pro

The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!

I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.

>> Interface 2 Joystick
>> USB 6-button pad
>with vibrations!

I'm trying to imagine that for Spectrum games, like Renegade, Out-Run
and Chase Hq. Something for Matthew Westcott's Hijackulator maybe?

>> Prestel
>> Internet
>Wireless LAN!

Bleedin' showoffs!

>> 48K Basic
>> Safe Mode
>Can you really code in safe mode?

Probably not. But I was using it as an "unenhanced but reliable"
comparison... although that's really not true any more. Damn me for
being 6 years behind the times.

>> Waiting for tape to load
>> Waiting for PC to boot up
>Waiting for next error in Window$

"Windows was not shut down properly. ScanDisk is now running and it
will take ages. I know it's my fault that Windows didn't shut down
properly, but I will punish you for it regardless. Ha ha ha. Don't you
dare install Linux."

>> C90 'back ups'
>> Kazaa
>Kazaa is $hit, how about Kazaa Lite,

Ah yes, fairy nuff! Actually, I don't use either, as I could never get
Kazaa Lite working. I have Imesh running on this machine, and am
suffering the spyware it has. :-/

> eMule/eDonkey, WinMX and binary newsgroups?

Binary newsgroups are very tricky for me as I'm on NTL, and their
regular news server remains down more than Gillian Taylforth.

I accept your point though.

>> Turbo Esprit
>> Grand Theft Auto
>GTA 3.

True, true. One of the greatest games ever written.

>> Rochdale Balrog
>> Harry Potter
>Who is Rochdale Balrog, is this a magican?

www.zenobi.co.uk

>> R Tape Loading Error
>> This program has performed an illegal operation and will be closed
>> down
>Yeah, that´s completly right!!!

Or the BSOD...

>> Redefine keys
>> Calibrate joypad
>You can still redefine keys in PC game$.

I not know this. I have only ever bought one PC specific game since
buying my first PC in 1997.

>> Mum hoovering
>> Phone line disconnecting
>Wife hoovering...
>Who is still using non-broadband internet connection?

Me. I prefer it to broadband, actually, it's cheaper, and I'm not in
the position to actually need to download hefty amounts of data.

I have broadband at work (BT Openworld), and about once every 1-2
weeks, that goes down, so my analogy still holds up!

>> Commodore 64s
>> Paperweights

>Was it not C64SX ?

Eh?

>Spectrum 128
>Mega big tower PC.

Cue flames from Mac/Acorn/Amiga evangelists. :)

Jaxtraw

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"Peter THOMA$" <see-m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3eb40199...@text.news.ntlworld.com...

> On Sat, 03 May 2003 17:09:50 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:
>
> >> Art Studio 128
> >> Adobe Photoshop 7
>
> >Paint Shop pro
>
> The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!
>
> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
>

Paint Shop Pro is quite possibly the poor man's Icon Graphix[1] 128. It's
utter pants.

Ian

-----------
[1] I may have spelt this wrongly but it definitely had non-dictionarial
spelling.


Peter THOMA$

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On Sat, 3 May 2003 19:17:15 +0100, "Jaxtraw"
<jax...@nospamnobigfoot.com> wrote:

>> >> Art Studio 128
>> >> Adobe Photoshop 7
>> >Paint Shop pro
>> The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!
>> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
>> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
>Paint Shop Pro is quite possibly the poor man's Icon Graphix[1] 128. It's
>utter pants.

I'll see your Icon Graphix and raise you Animator 1. I have written
better graphics programs in BASIC than that sack of... poo.

paul s

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Peter THOMA$ wrote:

> Art Studio 128
> Adobe Photoshop 7

Some Etch-A-Sketch affair written in Basic, from Your Computer magazine.
The GIMP.



> Interface 2 Joystick
> USB 6-button pad

The many Atari 2600 lookalike 'sticks, all crap.
M$ Sidewinder.

> Prestel
> Internet

Bulletin boards with strict upload/download ratios, and you got a 1200/75
baud modem.
Broadband internet.

> 48K Basic
> Safe Mode

1K ZX80.
BSOD.



> Waiting for tape to load
> Waiting for PC to boot up

Waiting for the 110-baud acoustic-coupler to connect.
Reinstalling Windows for the umpteenth time.

> C90 'back ups'
> Kazaa

C120 backups.
Viruses and spyware from Kazaa



> Turbo Esprit
> Grand Theft Auto

Some rubbish written in BASIC.
Gran' Tourismo.

> Rochdale Balrog
> Harry Potter

Willie Crowther's Adventure on a teleprinter.
Willie Crowther's Adventure on XP.



> R Tape Loading Error
> This program has performed an illegal operation and will be closed
> down>

Someone kicks acoustic-coupler, during a BASIC type in session.
This program has encountered and error and needs to close, do you wish to
inform M$ about this? We are sorry for the inconveniance.

> Redefine keys
> Calibrate joypad

Another cheapo 2600 lookalike 'stick broken.
Another cheapo USB Quickshot 'stick broken.



> Mum hoovering
> Phone line disconnecting

Get on with your homework.
Cable-modem down again.

> Commodore 64s
> Paperweights

ZX80s
Collectable antique on Ebay.

--
Paul S
Mandrake Linux 9.1

Robert J Baker

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see-m...@hotmail.com (Peter THOMA$) wrote in message news:<3eb40199...@text.news.ntlworld.com>...

> On Sat, 03 May 2003 17:09:50 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:
>
> >> Art Studio 128
> >> Adobe Photoshop 7
>
> >Paint Shop pro
>
> The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!

That "path" game in Deus Ex Machina
Colour-cycling in Fractint (or: one of Lister's shirts) :)

Jaxtraw

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"Peter THOMA$" <see-m...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3eb413ae...@text.news.ntlworld.com...

> On Sat, 3 May 2003 19:17:15 +0100, "Jaxtraw"
> <jax...@nospamnobigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> Art Studio 128
> >> >> Adobe Photoshop 7
> >> >Paint Shop pro
> >> The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!
> >> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
> >> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
> >Paint Shop Pro is quite possibly the poor man's Icon Graphix[1] 128. It's
> >utter pants.
>
> I'll see your Icon Graphix and raise you Animator 1. I have written
> better graphics programs in BASIC than that sack of... poo.
>

The fabulous thing about IG128[1] was that if you were involved in the utter
soul-destroying pointlessness of using it without a mouse[2] you had to
drive your pointer around with the cursor keys. And it went noticably faster
(like, twice the speed) in the top 3rd of the screen (or was it the bottom
third?) presumably because the author had some hopelessly primitive method
of working out addresses in the admittedly less-than-straightforward display
file :)

Ian

--------------
[1] By using only initials I'm attempting to make something boring and
insignificant seem suddenly with-it and groovy, as has worked so well with
Ian Duncan Smith.

[2] Yes, I did. It was me.


Cyborg

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May 3, 2003, 5:16:24 PM5/3/03
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Z80
x86

ULA
Video Card

Expansion Port
Expansion Slot

Serial/Parallel Port
USB

Gauntlet
Quake/Unreal

Microdrive
CD-RW

Garbled Screen
BSOD

Crap Basic Games
Crap VB Games

David Buttery

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LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote here on 03 May 2003:

<snip>


> Wife hoovering...
> Who is still using non-broadband internet connection?

<snip>

Much of Britain. Thanks, BT...

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Duncan Snowden

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Peter THOMA$. Saturday. comp.sys.sinclair. Tch, eh?

> 48K Basic
> Safe Mode
Boot with no Startup Sequence



> Waiting for tape to load
> Waiting for PC to boot up

Attempting to get 11 year old Amiga to boot at all

> C90 'back ups'
> Kazaa
BTTR

Still having a Speccy in 1993.
Still having an Amiga in 2003.

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c CODE error, 790:3

LCD

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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

> On Sat, 03 May 2003 17:09:50 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:
>
> >> Art Studio 128
> >> Adobe Photoshop 7
>
> >Paint Shop pro
>
> The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!
>

Sorry, LCD has never player eathlings games eartlier ;-).

>
> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
>

If you pay for it... (Yes, I did)
Photoshop is nice for retouching, but I think Paint Shop pro is easier
to use.

>
> >> Interface 2 Joystick
> >> USB 6-button pad
> >with vibrations!
>
> I'm trying to imagine that for Spectrum games, like Renegade, Out-Run
> and Chase Hq. Something for Matthew Westcott's Hijackulator maybe?
>

Hijackulator?
Just a idea, but I think, Interface 2 and Kempston Joystick are the same
Atari.type joysticks, only the interface between Spectrum and the joystick

can be a "Interface 2"

>
> >> 48K Basic
> >> Safe Mode
> >Can you really code in safe mode?
>
> Probably not. But I was using it as an "unenhanced but reliable"
> comparison... although that's really not true any more. Damn me for
> being 6 years behind the times.
>

Misunderstanding!

> >> C90 'back ups'
> >> Kazaa
> >Kazaa is $hit, how about Kazaa Lite,
>
> Ah yes, fairy nuff! Actually, I don't use either, as I could never get
> Kazaa Lite working. I have Imesh running on this machine, and am
> suffering the spyware it has. :-/
>

Then use WinMX, it works well and has no spyware. For Anime
downloads I use BitTorrent (Currently downloading Spiral 22)

>
> > eMule/eDonkey, WinMX and binary newsgroups?
>
> Binary newsgroups are very tricky for me as I'm on NTL, and their
> regular news server remains down more than Gillian Taylforth.
>

Mine too, it is Chello! I got often timeouts (so the double post, sorry)
or I´m missing non-binary messages, or binary parts.

>
> I accept your point though.

> >> Rochdale Balrog
> >> Harry Potter
> >Who is Rochdale Balrog, is this a magican?
>
> www.zenobi.co.uk
>

Oh, Balrog! that Balrog!

>
> >> Redefine keys
> >> Calibrate joypad
> >You can still redefine keys in PC game$.
>
> I not know this. I have only ever bought one PC specific game since
> buying my first PC in 1997.
>

What, no demos downloaded? A lot ot hem has options to redefine
keys.

>
> >Who is still using non-broadband internet connection?
>
> Me. I prefer it to broadband, actually, it's cheaper, and I'm not in
> the position to actually need to download hefty amounts of data.
>
> I have broadband at work (BT Openworld), and about once every 1-2
> weeks, that goes down, so my analogy still holds up!
>

I got chello, and it goes down every few hours... And I download a great
amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).

>
> >> Commodore 64s
> >> Paperweights
>
> >Was it not C64SX ?
>
> Eh?
>

C64SX was the portable C64 with build in CRT monitor. I had one, but
threw it into trash years ago

>
> >Spectrum 128
> >Mega big tower PC.
>
> Cue flames from Mac/Acorn/Amiga evangelists. :)

I just said what I had 1993 and 2003...

Okay, a few more:

Spectrum+ Keyboard add-on
Logitech wireless desktop

AMX Mouse
Optical Wireless Mouse

ZX Printer
Bubble Jet Colour printer

B/W TV
TFT Monitor

Tape recorder
DVD-R/+R writer

LCD

Peter THOMA$

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On Sun, 04 May 2003 11:43:51 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:

>> >> Art Studio 128
>> >> Adobe Photoshop 7
>> >Paint Shop pro
>> The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!
>Sorry, LCD has never player eathlings games eartlier ;-).

I just realised you did add one in! Apologies!

>> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
>> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
>If you pay for it... (Yes, I did)
>Photoshop is nice for retouching,

And the layer styles, save-for-web and so much more.

> but I think Paint Shop pro is easier to use.

Undoubtedly. But easier-to-use usually means less features, and it's
true in this case.

>> >> Interface 2 Joystick
>> >> USB 6-button pad
>> >with vibrations!
>> I'm trying to imagine that for Spectrum games, like Renegade, Out-Run
>> and Chase Hq. Something for Matthew Westcott's Hijackulator maybe?
>Hijackulator?

See the "Emulator wish-list" thread, and read Matthew's ideas.

>> >> C90 'back ups'
>> >> Kazaa
>> >Kazaa is $hit, how about Kazaa Lite,
>> Ah yes, fairy nuff! Actually, I don't use either, as I could never get
>> Kazaa Lite working. I have Imesh running on this machine, and am
>> suffering the spyware it has. :-/
>Then use WinMX, it works well and has no spyware. For Anime
>downloads I use BitTorrent (Currently downloading Spiral 22)

I'll get this sorted when I get my new PC later this week. It's about
time I broke the 2ghz barrier...

>> > eMule/eDonkey, WinMX and binary newsgroups?
>> Binary newsgroups are very tricky for me as I'm on NTL, and their
>> regular news server remains down more than Gillian Taylforth.
>Mine too, it is Chello! I got often timeouts (so the double post, sorry)
>or I´m missing non-binary messages, or binary parts.

<AOL>, <AOL>, <AOL>...

>> I accept your point though.
>> >> Rochdale Balrog
>> >> Harry Potter
>> >Who is Rochdale Balrog, is this a magican?
>> www.zenobi.co.uk
>Oh, Balrog! that Balrog!

Excellently written stuff.

>> >> Redefine keys
>> >> Calibrate joypad
>> >You can still redefine keys in PC game$.
>> I not know this. I have only ever bought one PC specific game since
>> buying my first PC in 1997.
>What, no demos downloaded?

I have only downloaded one PC specific game demo, that was Grand Theft
Auto.

I have very little interest in modern games.

> A lot ot hem has options to redefine keys.

Yep, my brother used to buy a few PC games back in the late 90s, and I
remember Doom (I think it's over-rated), and FIFA 97 having these
options.

If I had to buy any recent PC games, it'd be Half-life and Deus Ex.
I've never played them, just heard about them and they sound up my
street.

>> >Who is still using non-broadband internet connection?
>> Me. I prefer it to broadband, actually, it's cheaper, and I'm not in
>> the position to actually need to download hefty amounts of data.
>> I have broadband at work (BT Openworld), and about once every 1-2
>> weeks, that goes down, so my analogy still holds up!
>I got chello, and it goes down every few hours...

Well, my freephone dial up deliberately cuts off every 2 hours, but I
do have the option of choosing almost any ISP for a 2+ hour
connection, although that will cost me on the phone bill. I'd only do
it if I'm downloading something big AND Getright is reporting the
server doesn't support resuming downloads.

> And I download a great
>amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).

I did my biggest download at home last weekend, 106mb for Easy CD
Creator 5 (my version 3 is corrupted, and I've lost the CD, honest
officer), and it doesn't work. :(

>> >> Commodore 64s
>> >> Paperweights
>> >Was it not C64SX ?
>> Eh?
>C64SX was the portable C64 with build in CRT monitor.

My knowledge of C64s isn't good... deliberately so :)

> I had one, but threw it into trash years ago

Turned away, from the dark side, you did! </Yoda>

>> >Spectrum 128
>> >Mega big tower PC.
>> Cue flames from Mac/Acorn/Amiga evangelists. :)
>I just said what I had 1993 and 2003...

I was just making a comment on what Mac/Acorn/Amiga fans would think
of you putting PC above their machines :)

>Okay, a few more:
>Spectrum+ Keyboard add-on
>Logitech wireless desktop

I've heard tales about how wireless keyboards send out your passwords
[1] to other computers in a certain radius

>AMX Mouse
>Optical Wireless Mouse
>
>ZX Printer
>Bubble Jet Colour printer
>
>B/W TV
>TFT Monitor

Is it just me who prefers CRT to TFT? TFT does me eyes in.
I think a B/W TV would almost be preferable.

>Tape recorder
>DVD-R/+R writer

DVD-R/+R/RAM writer is what I'm looking at getting </smug mode>

[1] Or private messages, credit card details, or whatever you're
typing

Isofarro

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Sinclair Microdrive
IBM Microdrive

mmmmm.

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On Sat, 03 May 2003 13:20:15 GMT, there was a flash of lightening and a clap
of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
out to just be Peter THOMA$ trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
electrical problems) boomed out:

> R Tape Loading Error
> This program has performed an illegal operation and will be closed
> down

Hmm, I'd go for a corrupt MBR or system files, quite possibly forcing you
to COMPLETELY REINSTALL EVERYTHING.

Chris

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In article <3eb3bf49...@text.news.ntlworld.com>, see-my-
s...@hotmail.com says...

> Art Studio 128
> Adobe Photoshop 7

My own basic programme making much use of INKEY$
Corel Paint

> Interface 2 Joystick
> USB 6-button pad

QAOP & space
Sidewinder with gammy buttons due to orange juice spillage

> Prestel
> Internet

Human interaction
Broadband

> 48K Basic
> Safe Mode

Ditto
BSOD

> Waiting for tape to load
> Waiting for PC to boot up

Praying for tape to load whilst perched on knee with screwdriver touching
azimuth screw.
B*stard virus that forced me to reinstall.

> C90 'back ups'
> Kazaa

C-60 back-ups (we were poor)
Binaries or Kazaa without the spyware

> Turbo Esprit
> Grand Theft Auto

Striker
Pro Evo 2

> Rochdale Balrog
> Harry Potter

Rick Dangerous
Super Mario Sunshine



> R Tape Loading Error
> This program has performed an illegal operation and will be closed
> down

Younger brother weeing on the Speccy and putting it out of action for 3
days!
Your system is busy...do you want to wait until the Sun expends it's
hydrogen fuel and swells to 300 times it's normal size engulfing the
Earth in 5 billion years on the remote chance it becomes unbusy or do you
want to reboot?

> Redefine keys
> Calibrate joypad

Games without the redefine keys option...grrr.
USB connector for PS2 pads.

> Mum hoovering
> Phone line disconnecting

The sun coming up.
Blue-yonder's sometimes iffy connection.


> Commodore 64s
> Paperweights

C64 games console
Deep Space 9 videos.

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Tony

Robert J Baker

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Striving to complete a screen in Jumbly, so as to find out what the
next one is
Striving to complete a fossil in Dynomite (Popcap --
<http://www.popcap.com>, download version, Fossil Challenge mode), so
as to find out what it (and the next one) is

Finding POKEs for Speccy games, so as to cheat
Finding patches for downloaded trial games, so as to convert them to
registered ver*&$[NO CARRIER]

Robert J Baker

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May 4, 2003, 12:53:34 PM5/4/03
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Tony McChrystal <tony_mccSPA...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.191f3b933...@news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> Corel Paint

Er, you mean Corel Photo-Paint... </pedant>

Talking of which:

Horizons DRAW / Melbourne Draw
Corel Draw

(I'm not sure of the validity of this one, as Horizons DRAW (although
a proper draw program) lacked features such as
bring-to-front/send-to-back, or even load/save; whilst "Melbourne
Draw" wasn't a draw program.)

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Dunny

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Robert J Baker wrote:
> Striving to complete a screen in Jumbly, so as to find out what the
> next one is
> Striving to complete a fossil in Dynomite (Popcap --
> <http://www.popcap.com>, download version, Fossil Challenge mode), so
> as to find out what it (and the next one) is

Hehe - I finished that one, on normal, rather than easy too (a mistake on my
part!)

D.

LCD

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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

> On Sun, 04 May 2003 11:43:51 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:
>
> >> >> Art Studio 128
> >> >> Adobe Photoshop 7
> >> >Paint Shop pro
> >> The idea is that you respond with yer own then/now combinations!
> >Sorry, LCD has never player eathlings games eartlier ;-).
>
> I just realised you did add one in! Apologies!

Yes, but it was only one ;-)

>
>
> >> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
> >> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
> >If you pay for it... (Yes, I did)
> >Photoshop is nice for retouching,
>
> And the layer styles, save-for-web and so much more.
>

PSP has layer too, but there are surely reasons why professionals
use Photoshom.

>
> > but I think Paint Shop pro is easier to use.
>
> Undoubtedly. But easier-to-use usually means less features, and it's
> true in this case.
>

It is better to have less features, but know how to use them.

>
> >> >> Interface 2 Joystick
> >> >> USB 6-button pad
> >> >with vibrations!
> >> I'm trying to imagine that for Spectrum games, like Renegade, Out-Run
> >> and Chase Hq. Something for Matthew Westcott's Hijackulator maybe?
> >Hijackulator?
>
> See the "Emulator wish-list" thread, and read Matthew's ideas.
>

Oh, he want to hijack the screen for ransom (gimme more colours). Nice
idea, but I like the characteristic ZX graphic style. The Hijackulator then
detects if the car is off-road and triggers vibratttttttions.

>
> >> >> C90 'back ups'
> >> >> Kazaa
> >> >Kazaa is $hit, how about Kazaa Lite,
> >> Ah yes, fairy nuff! Actually, I don't use either, as I could never get
> >> Kazaa Lite working. I have Imesh running on this machine, and am
> >> suffering the spyware it has. :-/
> >Then use WinMX, it works well and has no spyware. For Anime
> >downloads I use BitTorrent (Currently downloading Spiral 22)
>
> I'll get this sorted when I get my new PC later this week. It's about
> time I broke the 2ghz barrier...
>

I use my AMD 500 for WinMX, no need to use 1.2 Ghz PC for this,
and with some modifications in the cooling, I can run the 500 Mhz
PC at night in my bedroom. No problem, it is extremly silent, and the
CPU temperature is around 29 C, my 1200 Mhz PC runs unsilently
at 42 C. I should modify this one day too.

>
> >> > eMule/eDonkey, WinMX and binary newsgroups?
> >> Binary newsgroups are very tricky for me as I'm on NTL, and their
> >> regular news server remains down more than Gillian Taylforth.
> >Mine too, it is Chello! I got often timeouts (so the double post, sorry)

> >or I惴 missing non-binary messages, or binary parts.


>
> <AOL>, <AOL>, <AOL>...

Please, no bad language here... ;-)

>
>
> >> I accept your point though.
> >> >> Rochdale Balrog
> >> >> Harry Potter
> >> >Who is Rochdale Balrog, is this a magican?
> >> www.zenobi.co.uk
> >Oh, Balrog! that Balrog!
>
> Excellently written stuff.
>

Yeah, apsolutly correct!

>
> >> >> Redefine keys
> >> >> Calibrate joypad
> >> >You can still redefine keys in PC game$.
> >> I not know this. I have only ever bought one PC specific game since
> >> buying my first PC in 1997.
> >What, no demos downloaded?
>
> I have only downloaded one PC specific game demo, that was Grand Theft
> Auto.
>
> I have very little interest in modern games.
>

I just play PC game in order to find out if they could be converted to ZX.

>
> > A lot ot hem has options to redefine keys.
>
> Yep, my brother used to buy a few PC games back in the late 90s, and I
> remember Doom (I think it's over-rated), and FIFA 97 having these
> options.
>
> If I had to buy any recent PC games, it'd be Half-life and Deus Ex.
> I've never played them, just heard about them and they sound up my
> street.
>

How true, I have at least 12 PC games that I purchased, but never
had the mood to play them.

>
> >> >Who is still using non-broadband internet connection?
> >> Me. I prefer it to broadband, actually, it's cheaper, and I'm not in
> >> the position to actually need to download hefty amounts of data.
> >> I have broadband at work (BT Openworld), and about once every 1-2
> >> weeks, that goes down, so my analogy still holds up!
> >I got chello, and it goes down every few hours...
>
> Well, my freephone dial up deliberately cuts off every 2 hours, but I
> do have the option of choosing almost any ISP for a 2+ hour
> connection, although that will cost me on the phone bill. I'd only do
> it if I'm downloading something big AND Getright is reporting the
> server doesn't support resuming downloads.
>

And it takes ages to complete this download. I惴 happy with my 1 Mbit
connection, except that it is "Chello" provider, who sux.

>
> > And I download a great
> >amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).
>
> I did my biggest download at home last weekend, 106mb for Easy CD
> Creator 5 (my version 3 is corrupted, and I've lost the CD, honest
> officer), and it doesn't work. :(
>

Probably only a fake? With High speed connection I could download
three different versions from different pages. But I惴 not using Warez.
(Okay, one big exception).

>
> >> >> Commodore 64s
> >> >> Paperweights
> >> >Was it not C64SX ?
> >> Eh?
> >C64SX was the portable C64 with build in CRT monitor.
>
> My knowledge of C64s isn't good... deliberately so :)
>
> > I had one, but threw it into trash years ago
>
> Turned away, from the dark side, you did! </Yoda>
>

Not correct that is, me still evil is.
I still have the nice CRT colour monitor from it.

>
> >> >Spectrum 128
> >> >Mega big tower PC.
> >> Cue flames from Mac/Acorn/Amiga evangelists. :)
> >I just said what I had 1993 and 2003...
>
> I was just making a comment on what Mac/Acorn/Amiga fans would think
> of you putting PC above their machines :)
>

Oh well, I did not know much Amiga, Mac, Atari owners here, so they can
talk much. It was a example too: Reliable hardware, and unreliable hardware.

>
> >Okay, a few more:
> >Spectrum+ Keyboard add-on
> >Logitech wireless desktop
>
> I've heard tales about how wireless keyboards send out your passwords
> [1] to other computers in a certain radius
>

I know this, but that is not a real problem for me, the CIA knows my
passwords
since 1999, and NSA since 2000. No, honestly, for such a secure stuff I use
my
notebook. My private messages are not so important. I do not write any
private
messages to Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden, and if they write PM愀 to me,
that is their problem... ;-)

>
> >AMX Mouse
> >Optical Wireless Mouse
> >
> >ZX Printer
> >Bubble Jet Colour printer
> >
> >B/W TV
> >TFT Monitor
>
> Is it just me who prefers CRT to TFT? TFT does me eyes in.
> I think a B/W TV would almost be preferable.
>

Probably, CRT is fine for Spectrum, but TFT has no radiation, uses
less power, absolutly flicker-free and if used with PC愀, it is extremly
sharp. At moment I have 2 TFT monitors, one 17" for PC and a old
15" for download PC and Spectrum.

>
> >Tape recorder
> >DVD-R/+R writer
>
> DVD-R/+R/RAM writer is what I'm looking at getting </smug mode>
>

Oh yes, DVD RAM is nice too, This will make TV rips much easier.

Robert J Baker

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"Farlie A" <farl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<b93hcn$5sj$1$8302...@news.demon.co.uk>...
> "Robert J Baker" <kora...@mailandnews.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:fe420e86.03050...@posting.google.com...
[...]
> > registered ver*&$[NO CARRIER]
^^^^^^^^^^^^
> And you advocate piracy?

Read my post again -- I used the NO CARRIER convention...

No wonder some people on this NG advocate giving certain others a kick
in the teeth / nuts / body part of choice. I've never before felt the
need for a killfile, but the urge is coming on...

BTW, is SST a trollheim generally, as it appears from the posts I've
seen (here), or is it just you and those who follow you here from
there?

Chris Young

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On 4 May 2003 09:53:34 -0700, there was a flash of lightening and a clap

of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
out to just be Robert J Baker trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
electrical problems) boomed out:

> Tony McChrystal <tony_mccSPA...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.191f3b933...@news.blueyonder.co.uk>...

Oh, oh, oh! I've got one!

VU-3D
Real4D/Lightwave/Whatever

Peter THOMA$

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On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:39:44 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:

>> >> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
>> >> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
>> >If you pay for it... (Yes, I did)
>> >Photoshop is nice for retouching,
>> And the layer styles, save-for-web and so much more.
>PSP has layer too,

Yeah, but it's awful. Mind you, I am only using PSP5, I hope it's got
better since then.

> but there are surely reasons why professionals
>use Photoshom.

Because it's superior! Like what Dreamweaver is to Front Page!

>> >> >> Interface 2 Joystick
>> >> >> USB 6-button pad
>> >> >with vibrations!
>> >> I'm trying to imagine that for Spectrum games, like Renegade, Out-Run
>> >> and Chase Hq. Something for Matthew Westcott's Hijackulator maybe?
>> >Hijackulator?
>> See the "Emulator wish-list" thread, and read Matthew's ideas.
>Oh, he want to hijack the screen for ransom (gimme more colours). Nice
>idea, but I like the characteristic ZX graphic style. The Hijackulator then
>detects if the car is off-road and triggers vibratttttttions.

I'll have a go at Hijackulator on me new PC, if it arrives this
week...

>> >What, no demos downloaded?
>> I have only downloaded one PC specific game demo, that was Grand Theft
>> Auto.
>> I have very little interest in modern games.
>I just play PC game in order to find out if they could be converted to ZX.

Probably not seeing as most of them are solid 3D FPS. :(

>> > A lot ot hem has options to redefine keys.
>> Yep, my brother used to buy a few PC games back in the late 90s, and I
>> remember Doom (I think it's over-rated), and FIFA 97 having these
>> options.
>> If I had to buy any recent PC games, it'd be Half-life and Deus Ex.
>> I've never played them, just heard about them and they sound up my
>> street.
>How true, I have at least 12 PC games that I purchased, but never
>had the mood to play them.

I have a PS2, and hardly touch it. MAME and X128 are superior.

>> Well, my freephone dial up deliberately cuts off every 2 hours, but I
>> do have the option of choosing almost any ISP for a 2+ hour
>> connection, although that will cost me on the phone bill. I'd only do
>> it if I'm downloading something big AND Getright is reporting the
>> server doesn't support resuming downloads.
>And it takes ages to complete this download.

Yeah, well, I'm not paying a fortune every month for the privilege of
fast downloading. I know, I get what I pay for!

>> > And I download a great
>> >amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).
>> I did my biggest download at home last weekend, 106mb for Easy CD
>> Creator 5 (my version 3 is corrupted, and I've lost the CD, honest
>> officer), and it doesn't work. :(
>Probably only a fake?

I don't think so, probably more to do with how cluttered up this PC is
with conflicting programs and things in the registry and other places
from previously installed programs. The download was very popular, and
the program seems to be engineered for the XP generation. It's not
going to be too good on this Windows 95 P233MMX! :D

>> > I had one[C64], but threw it into trash years ago


>> Turned away, from the dark side, you did! </Yoda>
>Not correct that is, me still evil is.
>I still have the nice CRT colour monitor from it.

If it's used for Spectrum purposes, then you have converted it for
good.

>> >Okay, a few more:
>> >Spectrum+ Keyboard add-on
>> >Logitech wireless desktop
>> I've heard tales about how wireless keyboards send out your passwords
>> [1] to other computers in a certain radius
>I know this, but that is not a real problem for me, the CIA knows my
>passwords
>since 1999, and NSA since 2000. No, honestly, for such a secure stuff I use
>my
>notebook. My private messages are not so important. I do not write any
>private

>messages to Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden, and if they write PM´s to me,


>that is their problem... ;-)

Don't mention names like Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden. It creates
more work for Echelon. Tch, you'll be saying bomb, explosives,
terrorists and airports next!

>> >B/W TV
>> >TFT Monitor
>> Is it just me who prefers CRT to TFT? TFT does me eyes in.
>> I think a B/W TV would almost be preferable.
>Probably, CRT is fine for Spectrum,

Television is best!

>but TFT has no radiation, uses

>less power, absolutly flicker-free and if used with PC´s, it is extremly
>sharp.

Not so on colours. Or maybe it's because my laptop's a bit shite.

Llama-Wax Len

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Horace Goes Skiing
Minesweeper

Classified ads in the back of Speccy mags
eBay

Outputting my speccy through the amplifier of my dad's record player for
"big" sound
Real Spectrum hooked up to five speakers with the bass turned up

Wrecking computer after getting frustrated by The Living Daylights
Wrecking computer after conceding 96th minute goal in Championship Manager

Dizzy
Lara Croft

A porn mag found in some bushes behind the school playground
The internet

Swapping games with Specchums at school
Swapping insults with young console gamers at work

John Menzies
WH Smith

Tweaking the azimuth
Downloading new drivers

Writing your own games
Reminiscing about writing your own games

Navy Moves level 1
Finding an attractive woman who appreciates your love of the Speccy

Pickled Onion Space Raiders
Pickled Onion Space Raiders

Irn Bru, crisps, a few friends and a Match Day II competition
Beer, doritos, a few friends and a Pro Evolution II competition

A screwdriver and a cloth
Norton Antivirus

Sam Fox Strip Poker & What the Butler Saw
Channel 5

Len
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DISCLAIMER: By replying to this message, you hereby acknowledge
that the ZX Spectrum game "Robocop" was too difficult.


Frodo Morris

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LCD wrote:
> I got chello, and it goes down every few hours... And I download a great
> amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).
>
Do you have One Piece? If so, what do you think? I watched the first
four episodes so far and it's great! A little strange perhaps (although
Furi Kuri melts one's mind) but otherwise good.

/me goes back to watching Gunbuster episode 5 (mmm...fan service...)
--
FM

Frodo Morris

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Llama-Wax Len wrote:
>
> Classified ads in the back of Speccy mags
> eBay
>
Common as shit in any branch of Dixons, Tandy, Rumbelows, Boots,...
W@WL@@KR@RE
--
FM

LCD

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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

> On Sun, 04 May 2003 19:39:44 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:
>
> >> >> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
> >> >> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
> >> >If you pay for it... (Yes, I did)
> >> >Photoshop is nice for retouching,
> >> And the layer styles, save-for-web and so much more.
> >PSP has layer too,
>
> Yeah, but it's awful. Mind you, I am only using PSP5, I hope it's got
> better since then.
>

I use PSP7, and it is much better than PSP5

>
> > but there are surely reasons why professionals
> >use Photoshom.
>
> Because it's superior! Like what Dreamweaver is to Front Page!
>

I use Front Page to create my website, so it is viewable with Netscape 4.8
too. I have no reason to make special effects or multiple frames there.

>
> >> >What, no demos downloaded?
> >> I have only downloaded one PC specific game demo, that was Grand Theft
> >> Auto.
> >> I have very little interest in modern games.
> >I just play PC game in order to find out if they could be converted to ZX.
>
> Probably not seeing as most of them are solid 3D FPS. :(
>

And the other are remakes of Spectrum games... But there are still good
2D games...

>
> >> > A lot ot hem has options to redefine keys.
> >> Yep, my brother used to buy a few PC games back in the late 90s, and I
> >> remember Doom (I think it's over-rated), and FIFA 97 having these
> >> options.
> >> If I had to buy any recent PC games, it'd be Half-life and Deus Ex.
> >> I've never played them, just heard about them and they sound up my
> >> street.
> >How true, I have at least 12 PC games that I purchased, but never
> >had the mood to play them.
>
> I have a PS2, and hardly touch it. MAME and X128 are superior.

I have a Dreamcast and PS1, now both are catching dust.
On PC I have also some emulators (SNES, GBA and of course Spectrum
and SAM Coupe). I have not much time to play games since I hardly work
on "you know, what graphic converter".

>
> >> > And I download a great
> >> >amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).
> >> I did my biggest download at home last weekend, 106mb for Easy CD
> >> Creator 5 (my version 3 is corrupted, and I've lost the CD, honest
> >> officer), and it doesn't work. :(
> >Probably only a fake?
>
> I don't think so, probably more to do with how cluttered up this PC is
> with conflicting programs and things in the registry and other places
> from previously installed programs. The download was very popular, and
> the program seems to be engineered for the XP generation. It's not
> going to be too good on this Windows 95 P233MMX! :D

Oh yes, Win95 is not compatible anymore... I use Win98 and 2000, but
will never touch XP or later version with the stupid Digital Rights Management,
probably only if there is a crack to disable them, but I will surely not buy a
new
Window version anymore.

>
>
> >> > I had one[C64], but threw it into trash years ago
> >> Turned away, from the dark side, you did! </Yoda>
> >Not correct that is, me still evil is.
> >I still have the nice CRT colour monitor from it.
>
> If it's used for Spectrum purposes, then you have converted it for
> good.
>

Sure, but the resolution is too low for hires Spectrum font...

>
> >> >Okay, a few more:
> >> >Spectrum+ Keyboard add-on
> >> >Logitech wireless desktop
> >> I've heard tales about how wireless keyboards send out your passwords
> >> [1] to other computers in a certain radius
> >I know this, but that is not a real problem for me, the CIA knows my
> >passwords
> >since 1999, and NSA since 2000. No, honestly, for such a secure stuff I use
> >my
> >notebook. My private messages are not so important. I do not write any
> >private

> >messages to Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden, and if they write PM愀 to me,


> >that is their problem... ;-)
>
> Don't mention names like Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden. It creates
> more work for Echelon. Tch, you'll be saying bomb, explosives,
> terrorists and airports next!
>

Sorry, I forgot that the poor Echelon workers must read all messages which
contains names of the top TERRORISTS like SADDAM HUSSEIN, OSAMA
BIN LADEN or George W. Bush. I hope, they will never find out that I hate
Bush for BOMBing out the AIRPORTs in Iraq wit EXPLOSIVES and for
hitting the CHELLO Newsserver ;-). I do not hate USA, I just hate the big
dictators in Washington D.C. America was once the land of freedom, now
it turned into a faschistic dictatorship.

>
> >but TFT has no radiation, uses

> >less power, absolutly flicker-free and if used with PC愀, it is extremly


> >sharp.
>
> Not so on colours. Or maybe it's because my laptop's a bit shite.
>

Laptop screens are not allways the best quality...


LCD

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Frodo Morris wrote:

No, I did not download One Piece bacause it is currently aired on TV
(German synchro... RTL II).
I Prefer to download these Anime series:
Wolf´s Rain
Spiral - Suiri no Kizuna
Firestorm (Based on Gerry´s Anderson´s Story)
Ninja Scroll, and the best one is:
InuYasha. (currently at episode 106)

(I´m also downloading some older TV Series from WinMX:
Dr Who and Space 1999, but I can´t find Invasion from Vega)

JamesW

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In article <3eb508ef...@text.news.ntlworld.com>, see-my-
s...@hotmail.com says...

> Is it just me who prefers CRT to TFT? TFT does me eyes in.
> I think a B/W TV would almost be preferable.

With the LCD monitors you get what you pay for. I've got a 17" Apple
Studio display at home and find it really easy on the eye - not to
mention all the desk space it frees up. On the other hand work was trying
to persuade us to swap our 21" CRTs for some 18" *analogue* Sony LCDs
they had found cheap somewhere - they looked dire all shimmery - yeuch!

> >Tape recorder
> >DVD-R/+R writer
>
> DVD-R/+R/RAM writer is what I'm looking at getting </smug mode>

I've got a DVD-R/thats/it/just/-R, it comes in handy for C-90 style
backups of my DVDs...

Frodo Morris

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LCD wrote:
>
> (I´m also downloading some older TV Series from WinMX:
> Dr Who and Space 1999, but I can´t find Invasion from Vega)
>

Does it definitely exist? The BBC had a fire in the film archive
sometime late seventies I think, and lost a fair amount of Dr. Who
footage. There are some eps that only exist in black and white, and
some not at all.
BTW Mmm...Space nineteen and ninepence [That's their special FX budget].
Better than UFO but not as good as the Supermarionation stuff.
--
FM

paul s

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May 6, 2003, 8:48:13 AM5/6/03
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JamesW wrote:

> With the LCD monitors you get what you pay for. I've got a 17" Apple
> Studio display at home and find it really easy on the eye - not to
> mention all the desk space it frees up. On the other hand work was trying
> to persuade us to swap our 21" CRTs for some 18" *analogue* Sony LCDs
> they had found cheap somewhere - they looked dire all shimmery - yeuch!

I've never seen a LCD monitor that really liked, or would get on with. What
about plasma? I know they got the 42in TVs with this technology. How about
plasma monitors?

--
Paul S
Mandrake Linux 9.1

LCD

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paul s wrote:

Forget plasma monitors. The pixels are too big, and the discharge chamber
can still burn in, like normal CRT monitors. Plasma monitors are big,
energy-eating
and expensive, but if you have place on your desk for a 42" monster, and if you

have too much money, why not?
Oh yes, Plasma and TFT can have both defect pixels!!!

You not like LCD monitors? Probably you looking constantly at the cheap ones?

LCD

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Frodo Morris wrote:

Yes, it definitive exist!... BBC was not the only company who had the
copies.

I downloaded Dr. Who episodes 001 and 002 (An unearthly child and
the Daleks (Death planet)), more are on the way.
Space 1999 is a classic, but I was never able to see all episodes because
not all was aired in germany, as they never had enough money to buy or
dub all these episodes).
UFO, yes, nice "Captain Scarlet" style series with real actors. I like the
hairstyle of the moonbase girls and the title soundtrack, but the aliens are

too cheap.
What is Supermarionation? (I´m not british, so I do not know).

LCD

paul s

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LCD wrote:

> Forget plasma monitors. The pixels are too big, and the discharge chamber
> can still burn in, like normal CRT monitors. Plasma monitors are big,
> energy-eating
> and expensive, but if you have place on your desk for a 42" monster, and
> if you
>
> have too much money, why not?
> Oh yes, Plasma and TFT can have both defect pixels!!!
>
> You not like LCD monitors? Probably you looking constantly at the cheap
> ones?

No it's to do with native resolutions. Say you buy a LCD with a res, of
1260x1024 for best display you must use your graphic card in 1260x1024 and
not anything else, otherwise you get aliasing, which I've found to be very
noticeble. I happen to use several different resolutions depending upon
what I'm doing, and OS I'm using. I suppose the aliasing problem would be
the same with plasmas. Also I prefer the picture a CRT gives. Oh yeh and
I've seen the expensive ones.

Frodo Morris

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May 6, 2003, 10:42:07 AM5/6/03
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LCD wrote:
> What is Supermarionation? (I´m not british, so I do not know).
>
> LCD
>

It's the name for the puppetry process by which Thunderbirds, Stingray
and the like were constructed. I think it was really good and made the
programs more flexible than they would've been with real actors; other
people think that it was all a pile of poo.
--
FM

paul s

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Frodo Morris wrote:

And I'd just love to Supermarionate Lady Penelope, core! shez luvely.

LCD

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paul s wrote:

No, the picture is aliased on old and cheap monitors (like on my old
subnotebook,
on proper TFT愀 the picture is antialiased, which look a bit blurred, but
better than
aliased. The same about Plasma.
I never change the resolution from optimal, except if I惴 using the 15" TFT
with
my Spectrum, but that愀 anozher story. I have a TV connected to Speccy too, but

did not used this since 2 years.


LCD

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Frodo Morris wrote:

Oh, this is the name for technique used for marionette series like
Captain Scarlett and Thunderbirds... Now I understand, thanks!
I can imagine Dr Who in Supermarionation now... ;-)

LCD

Lee Osborne

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"JamesW" <ne...@weatherley.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1921ba928...@News.CIS.DFN.DE...

> In article <3eb508ef...@text.news.ntlworld.com>, see-my-
> s...@hotmail.com says...
> > Is it just me who prefers CRT to TFT? TFT does me eyes in.
> > I think a B/W TV would almost be preferable.
>
> With the LCD monitors you get what you pay for. I've got a 17" Apple
> Studio display at home and find it really easy on the eye - not to
> mention all the desk space it frees up. On the other hand work was trying
> to persuade us to swap our 21" CRTs for some 18" *analogue* Sony LCDs
> they had found cheap somewhere - they looked dire all shimmery - yeuch!
>

We've just got new LCD flat screens at work - I'm very impressed as the
picture is rock-steady and very clear, and a big improvement on the ancient
monitors we had before. However, my monitor has one rogue green pixel
towards the top left hand corner, and it irritates the pants out of me. It
keeps drawing my attention and distracting me.

Lee


Darren Salt

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> LCD wrote:
[snip]


>> You not like LCD monitors? Probably you looking constantly at the cheap
>> ones?

> No it's to do with native resolutions. Say you buy a LCD with a res, of
> 1260x1024 for best display you must use your graphic card in 1260x1024 and
> not anything else, otherwise you get aliasing, which I've found to be very
> noticeble.

That'd depend on whether the monitor's native resolution dimensions are
multiples of the selected mode's dimensions. If the aspect ratio is
maintained, then you can get away with one *not* being a multiple.

Of course, if you can tell the monitor to scale by integers only and to
centre the resulting display...

[snip]

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Peter THOMA$

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On Tue, 06 May 2003 11:25:53 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:

>> >> >> I think Starglider put it best. Paint Shop Pro really is the poor
>> >> >> man's Photoshop. It is case of getting what you pay for.
>> >> >If you pay for it... (Yes, I did)
>> >> >Photoshop is nice for retouching,
>> >> And the layer styles, save-for-web and so much more.
>> >PSP has layer too,
>> Yeah, but it's awful. Mind you, I am only using PSP5, I hope it's got
>> better since then.
>I use PSP7, and it is much better than PSP5

Couldn't be much worse! I'd prefer Photoshop 5 to PSP7.

>> > but there are surely reasons why professionals
>> >use Photoshom.
>> Because it's superior! Like what Dreamweaver is to Front Page!
>I use Front Page to create my website, so it is viewable with Netscape 4.8
>too.

I spot a pattern here.

You have Front Page instead of Dreamweaver.
You have Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop.
You had a C64 instead of Spectrum.

If you saw Bella Emberg and Sarah Michelle Gellar in a bar, I reckon
you'd be chatting up that Russ Abbott Show legend.

>> >> >What, no demos downloaded?
>> >> I have only downloaded one PC specific game demo, that was Grand Theft
>> >> Auto.
>> >> I have very little interest in modern games.
>> >I just play PC game in order to find out if they could be converted to ZX.
>> Probably not seeing as most of them are solid 3D FPS. :(
>And the other are remakes of Spectrum games... But there are still good
>2D games...

I think they're a tiny fraction of the market.

>> >> > And I download a great
>> >> >amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).
>> >> I did my biggest download at home last weekend, 106mb for Easy CD
>> >> Creator 5 (my version 3 is corrupted, and I've lost the CD, honest
>> >> officer), and it doesn't work. :(
>> >Probably only a fake?
>> I don't think so, probably more to do with how cluttered up this PC is
>> with conflicting programs and things in the registry and other places
>> from previously installed programs. The download was very popular, and
>> the program seems to be engineered for the XP generation. It's not
>> going to be too good on this Windows 95 P233MMX! :D
>Oh yes, Win95 is not compatible anymore...

<crosses fingers for new PC to arrive tomorrow>
<crosses fingers that a Windows XP and Mandrake 9 installation will
work>

> I use Win98 and 2000, but
>will never touch XP or later version with the stupid Digital Rights Management,
>probably only if there is a crack to disable them, but I will surely not buy a
>new
>Window version anymore.

<forgets about new PC>

>>>No, honestly, for such a secure stuff I use
>> >my
>> >notebook. My private messages are not so important. I do not write any
>> >private
>> >messages to Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden, and if they write PM愀 to me,
>> >that is their problem... ;-)
>> Don't mention names like Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden. It creates
>> more work for Echelon. Tch, you'll be saying bomb, explosives,
>> terrorists and airports next!
>Sorry, I forgot that the poor Echelon workers must read all messages which
>contains names of the top TERRORISTS like SADDAM HUSSEIN, OSAMA
>BIN LADEN or George W. Bush. I hope, they will never find out that I hate
>Bush for BOMBing out the AIRPORTs in Iraq wit EXPLOSIVES and for
>hitting the CHELLO Newsserver ;-). I do not hate USA, I just hate the big
>dictators in Washington D.C. America was once the land of freedom, now
>it turned into a faschistic dictatorship.

Oh, don't be ridiculous! You'll be saying next that Dubya will
threaten a trade agreement with Canada, purely because they may
implement cannabis decriminalisation...

erm...

>> >but TFT has no radiation, uses
>> >less power, absolutly flicker-free and if used with PC愀, it is extremly
>> >sharp.
>> Not so on colours. Or maybe it's because my laptop's a bit shite.
>Laptop screens are not allways the best quality...

I've learnt through trial[1] and error[2].

[1] My laptop is very trying.

[2] Buying it.

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[New here? See www.worldofspectrum.org]

"Admittedly if some of the websites I have bookmarked are to be
believed, I don't think that the internet will be too popular with
horses."
- Llama-Wax Len

Duncan Snowden

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Program: LCD

Bytes: Tuesday

> Yes, it definitive exist!... BBC was not the only company who had the
> copies.

That's true. They keep finding stuff in weird places, like down the back
of Uganda Television's office sofa, or underneath the former Director
General of St. Kitts and Nevis Broadcasting's bed.

> Space 1999 is a classic, but I was never able to see all episodes
> because not all was aired in germany, as they never had enough money
> to buy or dub all these episodes).

You're probably not missing much. The quality deteriorated a lot: series
2 wasn't anything like as good as the first, and it got worse as it went
on.

--
Duncan Snowden.

g File does not exist, 1120:4

Duncan Snowden

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Program: Lee Osborne

Bytes: Tuesday

> We've just got new LCD flat screens at work - I'm very impressed as the
> picture is rock-steady and very clear, and a big improvement on the
> ancient monitors we had before. However, my monitor has one rogue green
> pixel towards the top left hand corner, and it irritates the pants out
> of me. It keeps drawing my attention and distracting me.

Aaaaacksherly... you can get rogue pixels on CRTs too. We used to have a
telly with one almost right in the middle.

But with computer monitors being built to such a high spec compared with
TVs, you're unlikely to see any. The manufacturer would probably dump a
tube if it had one, I expect.

--
Duncan Snowden.

R Tape loading error, 1740:3

Doctor J. Frink

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On Tue, 6 May 2003 20:35:50 +0100, Lee Osborne
<ao003...@NOSPAM.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>We've just got new LCD flat screens at work - I'm very impressed as the
>picture is rock-steady and very clear, and a big improvement on the ancient
>monitors we had before. However, my monitor has one rogue green pixel
>towards the top left hand corner, and it irritates the pants out of me. It
>keeps drawing my attention and distracting me.

3rd cunning plan: make everything else in the world green! Ah, ha ha ha!

The Wise Frink

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Marcus Durham

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<graha...@wadham.invalid.ox.ac.uk> writes

>LCD wrote:
>> (I´m also downloading some older TV Series from WinMX:
>> Dr Who and Space 1999, but I can´t find Invasion from Vega)
>>
>
>Does it definitely exist? The BBC had a fire in the film archive
>sometime late seventies I think, and lost a fair amount of Dr. Who
>footage. There are some eps that only exist in black and white, and
>some not at all.
[Snip]

"Having a fire" and "incinerated, bulk erased or binned" are two
entirely different things.

They had no fire, they had a deliberate junking policy.

--
Marcus Durham

Darren Salt

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[snip]


> Aaaaacksherly... you can get rogue pixels on CRTs too. We used to have a
> telly with one almost right in the middle.

> But with computer monitors being built to such a high spec compared with
> TVs, you're unlikely to see any.

As well that you didn't type "you won't see any": one of my monitors (bought
second-hand) has a single missing phosphor group, halfway down and one third
of the way from the left.

I'm not planning to open it up to find and restore the speck of phosphor any
time soon...

> The manufacturer would probably dump a tube if it had one, I expect.

Let's just say that I've returned new televisions because of convergence
problems :-)

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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

>
> >I use PSP7, and it is much better than PSP5
>
> Couldn't be much worse! I'd prefer Photoshop 5 to PSP7.
>

Okay, you won!

>
> >> > but there are surely reasons why professionals
> >> >use Photoshom.
> >> Because it's superior! Like what Dreamweaver is to Front Page!
> >I use Front Page to create my website, so it is viewable with Netscape 4.8
> >too.
>
> I spot a pattern here.
>
> You have Front Page instead of Dreamweaver.

Not exactly, I have both, but I prefer to use FP

>
> You have Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop.

I have Photoshop demo too, but it ran out. Anyway, I will reinstall it and use
some of the functions, if I could learn how to use them...

>
> You had a C64 instead of Spectrum.

That was a long time ago, and I had a Spectrum before. The C64 came after that
for only a very short period of time, and I still prefer the Spectrum.

>
>
> If you saw Bella Emberg and Sarah Michelle Gellar in a bar, I reckon
> you'd be chatting up that Russ Abbott Show legend.
>

That´s completly wrong... Ask Sarah Michelle Gellar about me...

>
> >> >> >What, no demos downloaded?
> >> >> I have only downloaded one PC specific game demo, that was Grand Theft
> >> >> Auto.
> >> >> I have very little interest in modern games.
> >> >I just play PC game in order to find out if they could be converted to ZX.
> >> Probably not seeing as most of them are solid 3D FPS. :(
> >And the other are remakes of Spectrum games... But there are still good
> >2D games...
>
> I think they're a tiny fraction of the market.
>

Yes, but they exist.

>
> >> >> > And I download a great
> >> >> >amount of data (Anime episodes have 100-240 Mb).
> >> >> I did my biggest download at home last weekend, 106mb for Easy CD
> >> >> Creator 5 (my version 3 is corrupted, and I've lost the CD, honest
> >> >> officer), and it doesn't work. :(
> >> >Probably only a fake?
> >> I don't think so, probably more to do with how cluttered up this PC is
> >> with conflicting programs and things in the registry and other places
> >> from previously installed programs. The download was very popular, and
> >> the program seems to be engineered for the XP generation. It's not
> >> going to be too good on this Windows 95 P233MMX! :D
> >Oh yes, Win95 is not compatible anymore...
>
> <crosses fingers for new PC to arrive tomorrow>
> <crosses fingers that a Windows XP and Mandrake 9 installation will
> work>
>

Win XP? Ha ha ha ha ha... Did it ever work correctly on a PC?

>
> > I use Win98 and 2000, but
> >will never touch XP or later version with the stupid Digital Rights Management,
> >probably only if there is a crack to disable them, but I will surely not buy a
> >new
> >Window version anymore.
>
> <forgets about new PC>
>

Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000? Mandrake 9 is a step
in the right direction.

>
> >>>No, honestly, for such a secure stuff I use
> >> >my
> >> >notebook. My private messages are not so important. I do not write any
> >> >private

> >> >messages to Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden, and if they write PM´s to me,


> >> >that is their problem... ;-)
> >> Don't mention names like Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden. It creates
> >> more work for Echelon. Tch, you'll be saying bomb, explosives,
> >> terrorists and airports next!
> >Sorry, I forgot that the poor Echelon workers must read all messages which
> >contains names of the top TERRORISTS like SADDAM HUSSEIN, OSAMA
> >BIN LADEN or George W. Bush. I hope, they will never find out that I hate
> >Bush for BOMBing out the AIRPORTs in Iraq wit EXPLOSIVES and for
> >hitting the CHELLO Newsserver ;-). I do not hate USA, I just hate the big
> >dictators in Washington D.C. America was once the land of freedom, now
> >it turned into a faschistic dictatorship.
>
> Oh, don't be ridiculous! You'll be saying next that Dubya will
> threaten a trade agreement with Canada, purely because they may
> implement cannabis decriminalisation...
>
> erm...
>

No, that´s not right.

I think, USA was great in the pre-Bush era. A kind of freedom was there, but
now everything changed.
They wanted to kill Fildel Castro, but Bush prefered to make a war
against Iraq, why? Because Fidel has no oil... Bush is a liar, and the american
propaganda works well.

To be the president of the USA the candidates must be complete unfair
bastards and liars.

>
> >> >but TFT has no radiation, uses

> >> >less power, absolutly flicker-free and if used with PC´s, it is extremly


> >> >sharp.
> >> Not so on colours. Or maybe it's because my laptop's a bit shite.
> >Laptop screens are not allways the best quality...
>
> I've learnt through trial[1] and error[2].
>
> [1] My laptop is very trying.
>
> [2] Buying it.
>

Sell it again, and before purchasing a new one, demand a demonstration
of the screen.

LCD

Peter THOMA$

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On Wed, 07 May 2003 17:35:42 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:


>> I spot a pattern here.
>> You have Front Page instead of Dreamweaver.
>Not exactly, I have both, but I prefer to use FP

That's like owning a Fiat and a Ferrari, and deciding not to use the
Out-Run-immortalized vehicle.

>> You have Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop.
>I have Photoshop demo too, but it ran out. Anyway, I will reinstall it and use
>some of the functions, if I could learn how to use them...

Astalavista, baby!

>> You had a C64 instead of Spectrum.
>That was a long time ago, and I had a Spectrum before. The C64 came after that

I can't forgive this.

>for only a very short period of time,

OK, maybe I can.

> and I still prefer the Spectrum.

You're free to leave the courtroom.

>> >> The download was very popular, and
>> >> the program seems to be engineered for the XP generation. It's not
>> >> going to be too good on this Windows 95 P233MMX! :D
>> >Oh yes, Win95 is not compatible anymore...
>> <crosses fingers for new PC to arrive tomorrow>
>> <crosses fingers that a Windows XP and Mandrake 9 installation will
>> work>
>Win XP? Ha ha ha ha ha...

I know, I know. I'd use Windows 98 (my favourite Windows version), but
XP is only what I can get my hands on.

>Did it ever work correctly on a PC?

You do note that I'll be installing Linux as well? :)

Anyway, I'm assured by even the most anti-Microsoft types that XP is
the best Windows OS for stability. (OK, I suppose it's like saying an
overdose is the most painless way of suicide...) And drivers aren't
required for many USB gadgets.

>> > I use Win98 and 2000, but
>> >will never touch XP or later version with the stupid Digital Rights Management,
>> >probably only if there is a crack to disable them, but I will surely not buy a
>> >new
>> >Window version anymore.
>> <forgets about new PC>
>Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000?

<spits!> I'd rather have Windows 95!

> Mandrake 9 is a step in the right direction.

I was warned off RedHat, and the review of Slackware says it's not for
newbies like me.

>> Oh, don't be ridiculous! You'll be saying next that Dubya will
>> threaten a trade agreement with Canada, purely because they may
>> implement cannabis decriminalisation...
>> erm...

>No, that愀 not right.


>I think, USA was great in the pre-Bush era.

I visited it back then, not been back since. I can claim I've never
been to a country under an unelected dictatorship.

> A kind of freedom was there, but
>now everything changed.
>They wanted to kill Fildel Castro, but Bush prefered to make a war
>against Iraq, why? Because Fidel has no oil... Bush is a liar, and the american
>propaganda works well.
>To be the president of the USA the candidates must be complete unfair
>bastards and liars.

Aye, the Democrats are nearly as bad as the Republicans.

Anyways, I believe we're preaching to the choir...

neuro

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Llama-Wax Len wrote:
> [snip]

>
> Irn Bru, crisps, a few friends and a Match Day II competition
> Beer, doritos, a few friends and a Pro Evolution II competition

same here, but with ISS 2 on the gamecube instead .. perhaps an
intercollective tourney is in order? :)

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Peter THOMA$ wrote:
> [then and now comparisons]

Purchasing shady C90s packed to the gunnels with games from a market
Purchasing shady CD-Rs packed to the gunnels with warez from a market

Dreaming of the next iteration of the Speccy
Dreaming of the next iteration of the Vaio

Prism VTX5000 1200 baud
D-Link DSL-504 1048576 baud

Quickshot II
MS Sidewinder Force Feedback 2

Watching shady telesync VHS copy of Return of the Jedi
Watching shady DVD screener Divx copy of The Matrix Reloaded

Chatting to mates in street from bedroom window
Chatting to mates on $instantmessengerclient
[where $neuro->{'instantmessengerclient'} = "msn"]

Writing own fanzine and publishing using Dad's work photcopier
Writing own magazine and publishing on the net in PDF

Sitting at the letterbox every last Thursday of the month,
champing at the bit for the next issue of CRASH
Sitting with $emailclient every Friday afternoon, champing at
the bit for the next issues of b3ta and ntk newsletters

Fighting over the keys for a 2-player game of Jetpac
Fighting over the joypads for a 4-player game of Super Monkey Ball 2

Drinking huge amounts of Coca Cola while coding next BASIC masterpiece
Drinking huge amounts of Jack Daniels while coding next perl masterpiece

Can't use Speccy due to frazzled tape deck
Can't use network due to frazzled network switch

Azimuth problems
Crosstalk problems

Running out of room on a C90
Running out of room on a 540 gig raid array

Reading letters page in CRASH
Reading css

Lusting over the QL
Lusting over the 12in TiBook

PBMs
MMORPGs

Getting cans of Top Deck Shandy from the newsagents
Getting a tasty Cabernet Shiraz from the wholesalers

Re-enacting short scenes from Star Wars in BASIC
Re-editing Attack of the Clones in Adobe Premiere

Computer fairs filled with geeks and weird devices
Computer fairs filled with geeks and weird devices
(because some things never change)

JamesW

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In article <q90qo-...@outbound.news.zensoft.net>,
ne...@well.egg.bacon.chips.spam says...

> Drinking huge amounts of Coca Cola while coding next BASIC masterpiece
> Drinking huge amounts of Jack Daniels while coding next perl masterpiece
>
>
Does the JD make the Perl any easier to understand - or does it just
facilitate the general 'write once, modify never' paradigm?

LCD

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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

> On Wed, 07 May 2003 17:35:42 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:
>
> >> I spot a pattern here.
> >> You have Front Page instead of Dreamweaver.
> >Not exactly, I have both, but I prefer to use FP
>
> That's like owning a Fiat and a Ferrari, and deciding not to use the
> Out-Run-immortalized vehicle.
>

If you drive at most in the city, there is no reson to use a Ferrari until you
want to get some girls in the disco... Ferrari has a higher fuer consumption
than Fiat.

>
> >> You have Paint Shop Pro instead of Photoshop.
> >I have Photoshop demo too, but it ran out. Anyway, I will reinstall it and use
> >some of the functions, if I could learn how to use them...
>
> Astalavista, baby!
>

I know what you mean ;-)... I had this idea too.

>
> >> You had a C64 instead of Spectrum.
> >That was a long time ago, and I had a Spectrum before. The C64 came after that
>
> I can't forgive this.

>
> >for only a very short period of time,
>
> OK, maybe I can.
>

And it is in the Trash now. I do not plan to buy another C64 anymore.

>
> > and I still prefer the Spectrum.
>
> You're free to leave the courtroom.
>

Next defendant...

>
> >> >> The download was very popular, and
> >> >> the program seems to be engineered for the XP generation. It's not
> >> >> going to be too good on this Windows 95 P233MMX! :D
> >> >Oh yes, Win95 is not compatible anymore...
> >> <crosses fingers for new PC to arrive tomorrow>
> >> <crosses fingers that a Windows XP and Mandrake 9 installation will
> >> work>
> >Win XP? Ha ha ha ha ha...
>
> I know, I know. I'd use Windows 98 (my favourite Windows version), but
> XP is only what I can get my hands on.
>

eMule...
Hey, I cracked a notebook recovery CD to install Win98 on my PC, so why
do you allow THEM to install WinXP on YOUR PC?

>
> >Did it ever work correctly on a PC?
>
> You do note that I'll be installing Linux as well? :)
>

Does it make WinXP any better?

>
> Anyway, I'm assured by even the most anti-Microsoft types that XP is
> the best Windows OS for stability. (OK, I suppose it's like saying an
> overdose is the most painless way of suicide...) And drivers aren't
> required for many USB gadgets.
>

I personaly prefer to install drivers than mess up with DRM.

>
> >> > I use Win98 and 2000, but
> >> >will never touch XP or later version with the stupid Digital Rights Management,
> >> >probably only if there is a crack to disable them, but I will surely not buy a
> >> >new
> >> >Window version anymore.
> >> <forgets about new PC>
> >Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000?
>
> <spits!> I'd rather have Windows 95!
>

Okay, that IS better than XP.

>
> > Mandrake 9 is a step in the right direction.
>
> I was warned off RedHat, and the review of Slackware says it's not for
> newbies like me.
>

Maybe, but you will learn how to use it...

>
> >> Oh, don't be ridiculous! You'll be saying next that Dubya will
> >> threaten a trade agreement with Canada, purely because they may
> >> implement cannabis decriminalisation...
> >> erm...
> >No, that愀 not right.
> >I think, USA was great in the pre-Bush era.
>
> I visited it back then, not been back since. I can claim I've never
> been to a country under an unelected dictatorship.
>

I was in the pre-bush USA too and visited my cousine who was working
in WTC... I really don愒 wanted to live in USA, but now I would prefer to
shoot me in the head, rather than living under Bush. the TIA program looks
like the modern version of Gestapo and SS. Bush was elected in the same
way like Hitler did.
Who will free USA?

>
> > A kind of freedom was there, but
> >now everything changed.
> >They wanted to kill Fildel Castro, but Bush prefered to make a war
> >against Iraq, why? Because Fidel has no oil... Bush is a liar, and the american
> >propaganda works well.
> >To be the president of the USA the candidates must be complete unfair
> >bastards and liars.
>
> Aye, the Democrats are nearly as bad as the Republicans.
>
> Anyways, I believe we're preaching to the choir...
>

Are there good politicans? I don愒 think so...

LCD


LCD

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>
> > That's like owning a Fiat and a Ferrari, and deciding not to use the
> > Out-Run-immortalized vehicle.
> >

I own a Spectrum and a PC, and I decided to use Spectrum more often
than PC.

JamesW

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In article <3EBA6F5C...@chello.at>, lcd...@chello.at says...

That still doesn't explain why you prefer PSP to Photoshop ;)

Jamie Mann

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The best way of making perl easier to understand is to leave it for several
years. Just discovered some of my early code which used complex structures
(hash of hashes, etc) - woooo!

juice... hacking perl like an explorer attacking big green leaves in
the jungle

Chris Young

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May 8, 2003, 1:19:10 PM5/8/03
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On Thu, 08 May 2003 15:16:50 GMT, there was a flash of lightening and a clap
of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
out to just be Jamie Mann trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
electrical problems) boomed out:

> >Does the JD make the Perl any easier to understand - or does it just
> >facilitate the general 'write once, modify never' paradigm?
>
> The best way of making perl easier to understand is to leave it for several
> years.

Erm, easier to understand? Don't you mean harder to understand? All
programming I've done in whatever language, if I return to the code after
a break of several years it takes me an age to figure out what the code
actually does (this includes perl). I then subsequentally think of some
ingenious way to modify it to make things work better or implement
such-and-such feature... and then, after days of trawling through the
code (because none of it is commented, of course - or at least not with
comments which /actually mean something/), I discover I've already
implemented said piece of code way back in 1972[1].

Chris
[1] I'm lying of course - I'm not that old.


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LCD

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JamesW wrote:

>
> > I own a Spectrum and a PC, and I decided to use Spectrum more often
> > than PC.
> >
> >
>
> That still doesn't explain why you prefer PSP to Photoshop ;)

Okay, this explains it: I´m stupid! ;)

Frodo Morris

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In some people, alcohol lowers the fear for braces {curlophobia} that
can render perl progamming otherwise inaccessible.
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Robert J Baker

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"Dunny" <paul....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<b93pfm$fa2qg$1...@ID-106816.news.dfncis.de>...
> Robert J Baker wrote:
> > Striving to complete a screen in Jumbly, so as to find out what the
> > next one is
> > Striving to complete a fossil in Dynomite (Popcap --
> > <http://www.popcap.com>, download version, Fossil Challenge mode), so
> > as to find out what it (and the next one) is
>
> Hehe - I finished that one, on normal, rather than easy too (a mistake on my
> part!)

I think the Fossil Challenge only has a Normal mode, not Easy... :-)

Darren Salt

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I demand that LCD may or may not have written...

> "Peter THOMA$" wrote:
[snip]


>> You do note that I'll be installing Linux as well? :)

> Does it make WinXP any better?

If XP is being replaced, then yes :-)

[snip]


>>> I think, USA was great in the pre-Bush era.
>> I visited it back then, not been back since. I can claim I've never been
>> to a country under an unelected dictatorship.

> I was in the pre-bush USA too and visited my cousine who was working in

> WTC... I really don't wanted to live in USA, but now I would prefer to


> shoot me in the head, rather than living under Bush.

Hmm...

> the TIA program looks like the modern version of Gestapo and SS.

And you just *know* that they're going to justify whatever they do with that
with the word "terrorist".

> Bush was elected in the same way like Hitler did. Who will free USA?

I don't know. It probably won't be anybody with evidence of widespread
vote-rig[NO CARRIER]

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LCD

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Darren Salt wrote:

> I demand that LCD may or may not have written...
>
> > "Peter THOMA$" wrote:
> [snip]
> >> You do note that I'll be installing Linux as well? :)
>
> > Does it make WinXP any better?
>
> If XP is being replaced, then yes :-)
>

Exactly!

>
> > the TIA program looks like the modern version of Gestapo and SS.
>
> And you just *know* that they're going to justify whatever they do with that
> with the word "terrorist".
>

For Bush, a Terrorist is equal to "Not people of USA" and Axis of evil is
"Any othe country except USA", and god is talking with him ;-). Thw war
against Iraq was the first of a series that will be known in history books as
the "Bush Wars". But what will Bush do after all terrorists are punished, and
all axis of evil stares erased? I mean, after the world belongs to Bush and
we count Years not anymore A.D. (Anno Domini, after Christus), but A.B.
(Anno Domini Bush, after Bush), and every currency is USD, with the pictures
of Bush. And in the Church, Bush on Cross...
Okay okay, I going too far. TIA Program spies any other country except
USA´s people. That´s a provocation! The real terrorists are in the USA and
they are waiting...

>
> > Bush was elected in the same way like Hitler did. Who will free USA?
>
> I don't know. It probably won't be anybody with evidence of widespread
> vote-rig[NO CARRIER]
>

No, Europa is not the same as USA, we have assholes as politicans too,
but we (have no nuclear weapons, except french) are friendly people who
hate war. No intention to free USA, until someone will clone Hitler ;-), and
if someone does this, then surely in USA, because we don´t need him.

LCD

Peter THOMA$

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On Thu, 08 May 2003 13:53:01 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:

>> >> I spot a pattern here.
>> >> You have Front Page instead of Dreamweaver.
>> >Not exactly, I have both, but I prefer to use FP
>> That's like owning a Fiat and a Ferrari, and deciding not to use the
>> Out-Run-immortalized vehicle.
>If you drive at most in the city, there is no reson to use a Ferrari until you
>want to get some girls in the disco... Ferrari has a higher fuer consumption
>than Fiat.

That's because Ferraris move :)

>> >> <crosses fingers for new PC to arrive tomorrow>
>> >> <crosses fingers that a Windows XP and Mandrake 9 installation will
>> >> work>
>> >Win XP? Ha ha ha ha ha...
>> I know, I know. I'd use Windows 98 (my favourite Windows version), but
>> XP is only what I can get my hands on.
>eMule...
>Hey, I cracked a notebook recovery CD to install Win98 on my PC, so why
>do you allow THEM to install WinXP on YOUR PC?

I'm not. My new PC is arriving OS-free. I've got a Win XP CD, plus
some Linux spods will be around to make sure I do a dual installation
of Windows XP and Mandrake 9.

>> >Did it ever work correctly on a PC?
>> You do note that I'll be installing Linux as well? :)
>Does it make WinXP any better?

It makes my PC better.

>> >> > I use Win98 and 2000, but
>> >> >will never touch XP or later version with the stupid Digital Rights Management,
>> >> >probably only if there is a crack to disable them, but I will surely not buy a
>> >> >new
>> >> >Window version anymore.
>> >> <forgets about new PC>
>> >Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000?
>> <spits!> I'd rather have Windows 95!
>Okay, that IS better than XP.

Doesn't support USB gadgets.

>> > Mandrake 9 is a step in the right direction.
>> I was warned off RedHat, and the review of Slackware says it's not for
>> newbies like me.
>Maybe, but you will learn how to use it...

I'll give almost any OS a try.

>> Anyways, I believe we're preaching to the choir...

>Are there good politicans? I don´t think so...

There was one once, but it turned out to be a mirage.

Peter THOMA$

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On Thu, 8 May 2003 13:48:31 +0100, "neuro"
<ne...@well.egg.bacon.chips.spam> wrote:

>> [then and now comparisons]

Oh yeah, if what I've heard about Cadbury's re-branding is true then I
guess the following applies...

Wispa
Dairy Milk Bubbles

>Purchasing shady C90s packed to the gunnels with games from a market
>Purchasing shady CD-Rs packed to the gunnels with warez from a market

I've never seen any warez CD-Rs at any market, not even at a computer
fair, where you'd most expect to see 'em. I've been lent a few of 'em
tho. None with "Bloggo's Software" on them[1].

>Writing own fanzine and publishing using Dad's work photcopier
>Writing own magazine and publishing on the net in PDF

For the former, been there, done that. Except it wasn't my dad's, but
Prontaprint's. And it cost me a fortune[2].

>Drinking huge amounts of Coca Cola while coding next BASIC masterpiece
>Drinking huge amounts of Jack Daniels while coding next perl masterpiece

I like mixing both. And I don't mean perl and BASIC.

>Reading letters page in CRASH
>Reading css

I think this place is more like YS's letters page. Gerard Sweeney,
Leigh Loveday, etc, have been here.

>Re-enacting short scenes from Star Wars in BASIC
>Re-editing Attack of the Clones in Adobe Premiere

You've removed all the CGI and Jar-Jar Binks, right? Okay, how much
for a copy?

[1] qv Ancient FAST adverts from the mid 80s.

[2] Well about £5. Which was a fortune to a teenaged me.

Lister

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On Thu, 08 May 2003 22:54:06 GMT, see-m...@hotmail.com (Peter
THOMA$) wrote:

>On Thu, 8 May 2003 13:48:31 +0100, "neuro"
><ne...@well.egg.bacon.chips.spam> wrote:
>
>>> [then and now comparisons]
>
>Oh yeah, if what I've heard about Cadbury's re-branding is true then I
>guess the following applies...
>
>Wispa
>Dairy Milk Bubbles
>

But you can still get wispas, shirley?


>>Purchasing shady C90s packed to the gunnels with games from a market
>>Purchasing shady CD-Rs packed to the gunnels with warez from a market
>
>I've never seen any warez CD-Rs at any market, not even at a computer
>fair, where you'd most expect to see 'em. I've been lent a few of 'em
>tho. None with "Bloggo's Software" on them[1].
>

Try the barras in Glasgow, it's notorious

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Jamie Mann

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In article <3EBA9F9E.MD-...@activatormail.com>, "Chris Young" <chr...@activatormail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 May 2003 15:16:50 GMT, there was a flash of lightening and a clap
>of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
>out to just be Jamie Mann trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
>electrical problems) boomed out:
>
>> >Does the JD make the Perl any easier to understand - or does it just
>> >facilitate the general 'write once, modify never' paradigm?
>>
>> The best way of making perl easier to understand is to leave it for several
>> years.
>
>Erm, easier to understand? Don't you mean harder to understand? All
>programming I've done in whatever language, if I return to the code after
>a break of several years it takes me an age to figure out what the code
>actually does (this includes perl). I then subsequentally think of some
>ingenious way to modify it to make things work better or implement
>such-and-such feature... and then, after days of trawling through the
>code (because none of it is commented, of course - or at least not with
>comments which /actually mean something/), I discover I've already
>implemented said piece of code way back in 1972[1].
>
>Chris
>[1] I'm lying of course - I'm not that old.

It was meant to be sarcasm - apologies for being a bit too straight faced:)

The main issue I have with code written several years ago is that it always
seems to be amazingly complex and clever. You look at it and think "How did I
do that in 15 lines of code?", and suddenly feel like I'm getting increasingly
stupid with age.

Course, the other view of it is that I'm doing things in a simpler, cleaner
way these days. In 5 years time, I'll once again be looking back and thinking
"How did I..."

juice... making himself feel old :)

Chris Johnson

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Quoted text is from <b9fsdq$505$1...@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>, by Jamie
Mann <j0...@hotmail.com>

>The main issue I have with code written several years ago is that it
>always seems to be amazingly complex and clever. You look at it and
>think "How did I do that in 15 lines of code?", and suddenly feel like
>I'm getting increasingly stupid with age.
>
>Course, the other view of it is that I'm doing things in a simpler,
>cleaner way these days. In 5 years time, I'll once again be looking
>back and thinking "How did I..."

Perhaps I can help here with a mental stratagem which I have found most
useful when being dazzled by the astonishing competence of code I wrote
many years ago (for me that means anything from 10 to 35 years ago). I
tell myself that it represents the product of a temporary total
immersion in a problem such that, briefly, I was able to program above
my normal level. There is therefore no real degradation due to age.

It is a lie, of course. You do get slower, and lose the inclination for
fresh approaches, as you get older. The only benefit I have experienced
from growing older was in the recent 'Nations IQ' show. Thanks to the
age banding a pedestrian score (which included a couple of lucky
guesses) translated to an IQ of 138, which would be enough for Mensa
(not that I want to belong to Mensa; the name sounds like an obscure
female gynaecological problem)

Regards
Chris
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Robert J Baker

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Lister <fa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<skqmbv4k9q7c3ncrl...@4ax.com>...

> On Thu, 08 May 2003 22:54:06 GMT, see-m...@hotmail.com (Peter
> THOMA$) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 8 May 2003 13:48:31 +0100, "neuro"
> ><ne...@well.egg.bacon.chips.spam> wrote:
> >
> >>> [then and now comparisons]
> >
> >Oh yeah, if what I've heard about Cadbury's re-branding is true then I
> >guess the following applies...
> >
> >Wispa
> >Dairy Milk Bubbles
> >
>
> But you can still get wispas, shirley?

For now, one still can; but that's the point that Peter THOMA$ was
making, allegedly one won't be able to before this year is out...

Hmmm, perhaps "Listerine" should be rebranded "Twatine"? :-)

Robert J Baker

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see-m...@hotmail.com (Peter THOMA$) wrote in message news:<3ebad89c...@text.news.ntlworld.com>...
[Windows 95]> Doesn't support USB gadgets.

From what I've heard, Windows 95D does! :-p

(OK, it's only partial support, full support was introduced with Win98
a.k.a. Win95E; but partial support is still support...)

Peter THOMA$

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May 9, 2003, 4:09:11 PM5/9/03
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On Fri, 09 May 2003 09:48:19 +0100, Lister <fa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

>>>> [then and now comparisons]
>>Oh yeah, if what I've heard about Cadbury's re-branding is true then I
>>guess the following applies...
>>Wispa
>>Dairy Milk Bubbles
>But you can still get wispas, shirley?

Yes, but it will be known as "Dairy Milk Bubbles" according to what I
have read. No idea how Wispa Gold and Wispa Bite will be rebranded.

>>>Purchasing shady C90s packed to the gunnels with games from a market
>>>Purchasing shady CD-Rs packed to the gunnels with warez from a market
>>I've never seen any warez CD-Rs at any market, not even at a computer
>>fair, where you'd most expect to see 'em. I've been lent a few of 'em
>>tho. None with "Bloggo's Software" on them[1].
>Try the barras in Glasgow, it's notorious

I think Glasgow is notorious. I don't plan on going there.

Chris Young

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May 9, 2003, 2:13:21 PM5/9/03
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On Fri, 09 May 2003 09:22:06 GMT, there was a flash of lightening and a clap

of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
out to just be Jamie Mann trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
electrical problems) boomed out:

> It was meant to be sarcasm - apologies for being a bit too straight faced:)

Oops *slap* I should have spotted that.

Chris

LCD

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"Peter THOMA$" wrote:

> On Thu, 08 May 2003 13:53:01 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:
>
> >> >> I spot a pattern here.
> >> >> You have Front Page instead of Dreamweaver.
> >> >Not exactly, I have both, but I prefer to use FP
> >> That's like owning a Fiat and a Ferrari, and deciding not to use the
> >> Out-Run-immortalized vehicle.
> >If you drive at most in the city, there is no reson to use a Ferrari until you
> >want to get some girls in the disco... Ferrari has a higher fuer consumption
> >than Fiat.
>
> That's because Ferraris move :)

Oh, that愀 the reason...

>
> >Hey, I cracked a notebook recovery CD to install Win98 on my PC, so why
> >do you allow THEM to install WinXP on YOUR PC?
>
> I'm not. My new PC is arriving OS-free. I've got a Win XP CD, plus
> some Linux spods will be around to make sure I do a dual installation
> of Windows XP and Mandrake 9.
>

I would install Win98SE.

>
> >> >Did it ever work correctly on a PC?
> >> You do note that I'll be installing Linux as well? :)
> >Does it make WinXP any better?
>
> It makes my PC better.
>

True!

>
> >> >> > I use Win98 and 2000, but
> >> >> >will never touch XP or later version with the stupid Digital Rights Management,
> >> >> >probably only if there is a crack to disable them, but I will surely not buy a
> >> >> >new
> >> >> >Window version anymore.
> >> >> <forgets about new PC>
> >> >Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000?
> >> <spits!> I'd rather have Windows 95!
> >Okay, that IS better than XP.
>
> Doesn't support USB gadgets.
>

Windows 95C does support USB, I had this on my notebook. Windows 95A/B
and NT does not support USB, but that is a software problem, which could be
easy solved ly M$, but M$ don惡 care about their products.


Chris Young

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May 11, 2003, 5:29:33 PM5/11/03
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On Sun, 11 May 2003 16:12:50 GMT, there was a flash of lightening and a clap

of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
out to just be LCD trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
electrical problems) boomed out:

> > >> >Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000?


> > >> <spits!> I'd rather have Windows 95!

Hmm, I wasn't following this thread, but somebody appears to be
advocating the use of Win95 over 2000. Whoever it is, believe me W2K is
far, far better than any of the other versions of Windows. The only
other version I will touch[1] is Win95, and maybe Win98SE but only if I
need to use USB (I haven't found any USB device that works with Win95
yet).

> Windows 95C does support USB, I had this on my notebook. Windows 95A/B
> and NT does not support USB, but that is a software problem, which could be

> easy solved ly M$, but M$ don´c care about their products.

Win95B does, in fact this is the one sold as "with USB support". I have
only ever seen Win95C once, and have no idea how to go about obtaining
this version number. Even the very latest Win95 CDs patched up with the
included Y2K updates CD only exhibit "B" as their version number.

As said above, I have had no luck with Win95's USB support. Maybe it was
improved in 95C?

Chris

[1] For "touch" read "install on a machine I have to use"

LCD

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Chris Young wrote:

> On Sun, 11 May 2003 16:12:50 GMT, there was a flash of lightening and a clap
> of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
> out to just be LCD trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
> electrical problems) boomed out:
>
> > > >> >Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000?
> > > >> <spits!> I'd rather have Windows 95!
>
> Hmm, I wasn't following this thread, but somebody appears to be
> advocating the use of Win95 over 2000. Whoever it is, believe me W2K is
> far, far better than any of the other versions of Windows. The only
> other version I will touch[1] is Win95, and maybe Win98SE but only if I
> need to use USB (I haven't found any USB device that works with Win95
> yet).
>

I advocate the use of Win 95 over WinXP, but Win2K is really better, this
was not the question. Anything is better than the Spyware WinXP.

>
> > Windows 95C does support USB, I had this on my notebook. Windows 95A/B
> > and NT does not support USB, but that is a software problem, which could be
> > easy solved ly M$, but M$ don´c care about their products.
>
> Win95B does, in fact this is the one sold as "with USB support". I have
> only ever seen Win95C once, and have no idea how to go about obtaining
> this version number. Even the very latest Win95 CDs patched up with the
> included Y2K updates CD only exhibit "B" as their version number.
>
> As said above, I have had no luck with Win95's USB support. Maybe it was
> improved in 95C?
>
> Chris
>
> [1] For "touch" read "install on a machine I have to use"

It was a update for Win95B, to support USB, but to be honest, tha cracked
Win95C works far better than the B version, the B version crashed with my
video editing card, but Win95C wirks fine.

Duncan Snowden

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May 11, 2003, 9:02:42 PM5/11/03
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Program: Peter THOMA$

Bytes: Friday

> On Fri, 09 May 2003 09:48:19 +0100, Lister <fa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Try the barras in Glasgow, it's notorious
>
> I think Glasgow is notorious. I don't plan on going there.

Nooooooo, you should. It's lovely: all parks, wide streets and Victorian
architecture.

Bring money.

--
Duncan Snowden.

R Tape loading error, 810:4

Lister

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May 12, 2003, 3:55:01 AM5/12/03
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On 12 May 2003 01:02:42, Duncan Snowden <d...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

>Program: Peter THOMA$
>
>Bytes: Friday
>
>> On Fri, 09 May 2003 09:48:19 +0100, Lister <fa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> Try the barras in Glasgow, it's notorious
>>
>> I think Glasgow is notorious. I don't plan on going there.
>
>Nooooooo, you should. It's lovely: all parks, wide streets and Victorian
>architecture.

Why not hold a meet there Duncan?

Derek Glen

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"Duncan Snowden" <d...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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Oi, Snowden! Get back on yer stall, ya numpty!


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JamesW

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May 12, 2003, 6:13:57 AM5/12/03
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In article <3ebc0aa8...@text.news.ntlworld.com>, see-my-
s...@hotmail.com says...

>
> I think Glasgow is notorious. I don't plan on going there.
>
>
I spent four happy years at Glasgow University - the centre and West End
are great places. The only downside was the neverending rain - and this
isn't drizzle I'm talking about but 6 inch stair-rods that make a
tropical storm look weak.

JamesW

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May 12, 2003, 6:25:08 AM5/12/03
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In article <3EBECB05...@chello.at>, lcd...@chello.at says...

>
>
> Chris Young wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 11 May 2003 16:12:50 GMT, there was a flash of lightening and a clap
> > of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
> > out to just be LCD trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
> > electrical problems) boomed out:
> >
> > > > >> >Install something better on your PC, how about Win2000?
> > > > >> <spits!> I'd rather have Windows 95!
> >
> > Hmm, I wasn't following this thread, but somebody appears to be
> > advocating the use of Win95 over 2000. Whoever it is, believe me W2K is
> > far, far better than any of the other versions of Windows. The only
> > other version I will touch[1] is Win95, and maybe Win98SE but only if I
> > need to use USB (I haven't found any USB device that works with Win95
> > yet).
> >
>
> I advocate the use of Win 95 over WinXP, but Win2K is really better, this
> was not the question. Anything is better than the Spyware WinXP.
>

Hmmm - I much prefer the NT based Windows than the 'let's slap another
layer on top of DOS' shit. Win XP is really W2K.1 and as long as you turn
off all the fisher-price GUI it is bearable. Also with XP make sure you
get the Pro version and not the crippled home edition. Anyway I have to
use Windows at work and am greatly relived that I don't have it at home.

Tayles

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see-m...@hotmail.com (Peter THOMA$) wrote in message news:<3ebc0aa8...@text.news.ntlworld.com>...

> On Fri, 09 May 2003 09:48:19 +0100, Lister <fa...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >>>> [then and now comparisons]
> >>Oh yeah, if what I've heard about Cadbury's re-branding is true then I
> >>guess the following applies...
> >>Wispa
> >>Dairy Milk Bubbles
> >But you can still get wispas, shirley?
>
> Yes, but it will be known as "Dairy Milk Bubbles" according to what I
> have read. No idea how Wispa Gold and Wispa Bite will be rebranded.

Gah! It started with Marathon becoming Snickers so we could fall into
line with the Yanks. We get Starburst instead of Opal Fruits, then Jif
became Cif because Spaniards couldn't pronounce it, followed by
Impulse becoming Veet, which sounds like a South African mosquito
repellent. Now Wispa has to becoming Dairy Milk Bubbles? Hardly as
succinct is it? Sounds like one of those ludicrous Japanese names:
"sweetened cocoa family fun go-go bar".

Russ

Doctor J. Frink

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May 12, 2003, 8:48:03 AM5/12/03
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On 12 May 2003 05:41:41 -0700, Tayles <tayle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>repellent. Now Wispa has to becoming Dairy Milk Bubbles? Hardly as
>succinct is it? Sounds like one of those ludicrous Japanese names:
>"sweetened cocoa family fun go-go bar".

Sounds like a great place to spend an evening ;0).

Frinky-san

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LCD

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May 12, 2003, 11:30:43 AM5/12/03
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JamesW wrote:

>
> > I advocate the use of Win 95 over WinXP, but Win2K is really better, this
> > was not the question. Anything is better than the Spyware WinXP.
> >
>
> Hmmm - I much prefer the NT based Windows than the 'let's slap another
> layer on top of DOS' shit. Win XP is really W2K.1 and as long as you turn
> off all the fisher-price GUI it is bearable. Also with XP make sure you
> get the Pro version and not the crippled home edition. Anyway I have to
> use Windows at work and am greatly relived that I don't have it at home.

But Dos Based windows is great for Emulation of ZX Spectrum. And why
should I buy a new OS if I allready have Win98 and 2K? Call me a idiot,
but I will never buy XP home or pro edition. M$ made a big mistake with
crippling the XP home, and the shitty online registration. And I have no
intention to downgrade my OS to Win XP.

Btw.: James, Paulo Silva asked me to ask you to reply his E-Mails about
his mac to zx picture converter... Maybe you haven´t recieved his mails,
so here is his adress:
correasilva@[nospambot]portugalmail.pt
remove [nospambot]
Thanks...

JamesW

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May 12, 2003, 12:03:41 PM5/12/03
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In article <3EBFBE39...@chello.at>, lcd...@chello.at says...

>
>
> But Dos Based windows is great for Emulation of ZX Spectrum. And why
> should I buy a new OS if I allready have Win98 and 2K? Call me a idiot,
> but I will never buy XP home or pro edition. M$ made a big mistake with
> crippling the XP home, and the shitty online registration. And I have no
> intention to downgrade my OS to Win XP.
I won't call you an idiot because I'd never buy W2K or XP either!

> Btw.: James, Paulo Silva asked me to ask you to reply his E-Mails about
> his mac to zx picture converter... Maybe you haven´t recieved his mails,
> so here is his adress:
> correasilva@[nospambot]portugalmail.pt
> remove [nospambot]
> Thanks...
>
>

Yes, I got his mail and tried mailing him back a few times but it
always bounced - some message about his mailbox being full. I'll try
again tonight and see if he's deleted all the viagra/pr0n/tit implant
spam from his inbox!

LCD

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May 12, 2003, 12:25:30 PM5/12/03
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JamesW wrote:

I see, my message yesterday did not bounced back... And the spam
(insurance, debt refinance, letters from nigeria, patriotic USA card sets,
pyramid games) are not such big...

LCD

Chris Young

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May 12, 2003, 1:42:00 PM5/12/03
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On Mon, 12 May 2003 10:43:27 +0100, there was a flash of lightening and a clap

of thunder. A voice, believed to be the voice of God (but later turned
out to just be Derek Glen trying out a karaoke machine and having a few
electrical problems) boomed out:

> > > I think Glasgow is notorious. I don't plan on going there.


> >
> > Nooooooo, you should. It's lovely: all parks, wide streets and Victorian
> > architecture.
> >
> > Bring money.
>

> Oi, Snowden! Get back on yer stall, ya numpty!

Will that be the Tourist Information stall?

Chris

Llama-Wax Len

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May 12, 2003, 3:35:18 PM5/12/03
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"neuro" <ne...@well.egg.bacon.chips.spam> wrote in message
news:5nvpo-...@outbound.news.zensoft.net...
> Llama-Wax Len wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > Irn Bru, crisps, a few friends and a Match Day II competition
> > Beer, doritos, a few friends and a Pro Evolution II competition
>
> same here, but with ISS 2 on the gamecube instead .. perhaps an
> intercollective tourney is in order? :)

Absolutely... er, as long as you let me retain the Irn Bru part of it. Or
Mars milk drink. Or some other bizarre soft drink that is probably banned in
the Olympics.

Len
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May 12, 2003, 3:35:51 PM5/12/03
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"Duncan Snowden" <d...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Program: Peter THOMA$
>
> > I think Glasgow is notorious. I don't plan on going there.
>
> Nooooooo, you should. It's lovely: all parks, wide streets and Victorian
> architecture.

...all of which are usually being pissed on by drunken tramps.

Llama-Wax Len

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May 12, 2003, 3:37:08 PM5/12/03
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"Duncan Snowden" <d...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Program: LCD
>
> Bytes: Tuesday
>
> > Yes, it definitive exist!... BBC was not the only company who had the
> > copies.
>
> That's true. They keep finding stuff in weird places, like down the back
> of Uganda Television's office sofa, or underneath the former Director
> General of St. Kitts and Nevis Broadcasting's bed.

Alas the Christmas special of "Jocks at the Top" remains buried under a cafe
somewhere in Venezuela.

Robert J Baker

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May 12, 2003, 4:57:23 PM5/12/03
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tayle...@yahoo.com (Tayles) wrote in message news:<c85cebb3.03051...@posting.google.com>...

> Jif became Cif because Spaniards couldn't pronounce it

Surely they'd pronounce Jif phonetically as "Hif"? What's difficult about that? :)

Isofarro

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May 12, 2003, 6:02:41 PM5/12/03
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Robert J Baker wrote:

> tayle...@yahoo.com (Tayles) wrote in message
> news:<c85cebb3.03051...@posting.google.com>...
>> Jif became Cif because Spaniards couldn't pronounce it

IIRC the pronounciation of Cif is "sif", which translates to and Afrikaans
word meaning crap. Astute branding?


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May 13, 2003, 4:41:32 AM5/13/03
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In article <3EBFCB0D...@chello.at>, lcd...@chello.at says...

>
>
> JamesW wrote:
>
> >
> > > Btw.: James, Paulo Silva asked me to ask you to reply his E-Mails about
> > > his mac to zx picture converter... Maybe you haven´t recieved his mails,
> > > so here is his adress:
> > > correasilva@[nospambot]portugalmail.pt
> > > remove [nospambot]
> > > Thanks...
> > >
> > >
> > Yes, I got his mail and tried mailing him back a few times but it
> > always bounced - some message about his mailbox being full. I'll try
> > again tonight and see if he's deleted all the viagra/pr0n/tit implant
> > spam from his inbox!
>
> I see, my message yesterday did not bounced back...

I re-sent the mail this morning so I'll wait and see what happens...

> And the spam
> (insurance, debt refinance, letters from nigeria, patriotic USA card sets,
> pyramid games) are not such big...
>
> LCD
>

I bought an Iraqi most wanted patriotic USA card set (not from a spam
though) - I thought they were quite fun. Perhaps the YSRNRY Top Trumps
ought to be printed on real card?

LCD

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May 13, 2003, 11:35:11 AM5/13/03
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JamesW wrote:

> In article <3EBFCB0D...@chello.at>, lcd...@chello.at says...
> >
> >
> > JamesW wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > Btw.: James, Paulo Silva asked me to ask you to reply his E-Mails about
> > > > his mac to zx picture converter... Maybe you haven´t recieved his mails,
> > > > so here is his adress:
> > > > correasilva@[nospambot]portugalmail.pt
> > > > remove [nospambot]
> > > > Thanks...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Yes, I got his mail and tried mailing him back a few times but it
> > > always bounced - some message about his mailbox being full. I'll try
> > > again tonight and see if he's deleted all the viagra/pr0n/tit implant
> > > spam from his inbox!
> >
> > I see, my message yesterday did not bounced back...
>
> I re-sent the mail this morning so I'll wait and see what happens...
>

If it did not bounced back, it´s good...

>
> > And the spam
> > (insurance, debt refinance, letters from nigeria, patriotic USA card sets,
> > pyramid games) are not such big...
> >
> > LCD
> >
> I bought an Iraqi most wanted patriotic USA card set (not from a spam
> though) - I thought they were quite fun. Perhaps the YSRNRY Top Trumps
> ought to be printed on real card?

He he, I though of buy one set too, but I prefer to wait until Iraqi will bring
a new set with Bush, and his crew, with the details about prizes for their heads.
:lol:

Peter Thomas

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May 13, 2003, 3:40:28 PM5/13/03
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On Tue, 13 May 2003 15:35:11 GMT, LCD <lcd...@chello.at> wrote:


>> I bought an Iraqi most wanted patriotic USA card set (not from a spam
>> though) - I thought they were quite fun. Perhaps the YSRNRY Top Trumps
>> ought to be printed on real card?
>He he, I though of buy one set too, but I prefer to wait until Iraqi will bring
>a new set with Bush, and his crew, with the details about prizes for their heads.

Greenpeace do a set of cards that are anti-Bush and
anti-just-about-anyone-else-who-really-has-WMDs.

http://tinyurl.com/bojf

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Nick Humphries

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May 13, 2003, 3:49:12 PM5/13/03
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On Tue, 13 May 2003 09:41:32 +0100, JamesW <ne...@weatherley.net> wrote:

>Perhaps the YSRNRY Top Trumps
>ought to be printed on real card?

http://www.ysrnry.co.uk/cgi-bin/toptrumps.pl?show_deck=1&gubbins=0

Print out onto an A3 sheet of card and you're there...

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May 14, 2003, 2:47:22 AM5/14/03
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On 12 May 2003, Tayles wrote:

> Impulse becoming Veet, which sounds like a South African mosquito
> repellent.

Woah.

In Australia, Impulse is still a perfume, and Veet is a hair removal
cream.

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Peter Thomas

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May 14, 2003, 4:01:26 PM5/14/03
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On Wed, 14 May 2003 16:47:22 +1000, Jeff Braine
<je...@griffith.edu.au> wrote:

>> Impulse becoming Veet, which sounds like a South African mosquito
>> repellent.
>Woah.
>In Australia, Impulse is still a perfume, and Veet is a hair removal
>cream.

The same here. Impulse is still Impulse. It's Immac that became Veet
recently. Tayles has got his wires crossed.

I only know this 'cos of a pub discussion, so there. :-P

Lee Osborne

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May 14, 2003, 4:01:44 PM5/14/03
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"Jeff Braine" <je...@griffith.edu.au> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.33.0305141646390.1762-100000@hades...

> On 12 May 2003, Tayles wrote:
>
> > Impulse becoming Veet, which sounds like a South African mosquito
> > repellent.
>
> Woah.
>
> In Australia, Impulse is still a perfume, and Veet is a hair removal
> cream.

Veet is the dumb new name for Immac, not Impulse.

This is all part of a global branding thing, innit? You know Snickers bars
used to be called Marathons? The first time I came across the name Snickers
was when I was 12 in 1986 and went on a school holiday to Switzerland. I
thought it was highly amusing to stick a piece of paper with a "K" on it
over the "S" at the beginning.

Aaah, the memories.

Lee

P.S. I won't tell you what a friend of mine did to a book called "Walker's
Britain".


Lister

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May 14, 2003, 5:23:26 PM5/14/03
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On Wed, 14 May 2003 21:01:26 +0100, Peter Thomas
<see-m...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>The same here. Impulse is still Impulse. It's Immac that became Veet
>recently. Tayles has got his wires crossed.
>
>I only know this 'cos of a pub discussion, so there. :-P


You sure it's not something that was discussed while you were doing
your, erm, work? :P

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