FS Indigo2, 200MHz, XZ Graphics
Mitja Thurau
R4400, 200 MHz, 128MB RAM, 2 GB HDD, Keyboard, Mouse.
Located in Germany
Asking for:
DEM 3500,-- with XZ Graphics
DEM 4000,-- with Extreme Graphics
If interested mail to in...@magictoons.com
mapl...@gamers.org
in...@magictoons.com wrote:
> System is in good condition, (no scratches) w/o Monitor
> R4400, 200 MHz, 128MB RAM, 2 GB HDD, Keyboard, Mouse.
> Located in Germany
> Asking for:
> DEM 3500,-- with XZ Graphics
> DEM 4000,-- with Extreme Graphics
I hate to say it but that's very expensive. You're asking US $2000 for
an Elan with NO monitor, when sellers in the US are offering the same
setup WITH a monitor for less than half your price, eg. the Indigo2 Elan
recently advertised for $895+shipping (same spec).
Why do people ask such high prices for 2nd-hand SGIs in Europe?
And what you're asking for the Extreme is not much less than the cost
of an entry VPC320! Even including import taxes and costs of shipping
(around $200), it'd be cheaper for someone in Germany to buy a 2nd-hand
I2 from the US.
The most overpriced systems at the moment (worldwide) seem to be Indys
and O2s. With the release of the VPCs, sellers should take a reality check.
VPC320 is as much as 10X faster for 3D gfx than O2.
Btw, exchange rates to/from many countries can be found at:
http://www.dna.lth.se/cgi-bin/kurt/rates/
Ian.
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SGIs are usually corporations or universities which keep their boxes until they
fall apart. Contrary to the US, the universities here have an incredibly
complicated mechanism to sell things they don't need anymore or they want to
upgrade. Not like theses "salvage stores" or what it was called at Purdue
University (for example). And corporations just don't sell their stuff regularly
around here.Furthermore: Just look at the phone line pricing in the US (local
calls - server access, usually - for free/included in base bill) and then at the
phone prices here in europe. No one can favor computers and be off-line all day.
Another thing that's the mentality of the people. -sorry, I'm European myself,
but I know well both countries.
Another fun part: Have you ever had the luck of beein' a customer in the US, and
then experienced the arrogance of european cooperation's back home; yech..?
These are all small jigsaw peaces.
mkhd
Research Scientist at the university of Zurich, Switzerland
Christian Bauer
wrote:
>Why do people ask such high prices for 2nd-hand SGIs in Europe?
There is absolutely no marekt here in Germany for used Workstations. You see
one (most SUN, second SGI) every 5 days or something like that. I'd say his
price is at the low end, if I had the money, I would buy it in Germany :)
Buying a used SGI from the US is close to impossbile, e.g.:
$900 price
+ $200 shipping
+ $200 (I don't know exactly, could be much more ) customs duty and tax
+ money exchange with donations for the bank
= a lot more than 3500 DEM
--
Christian Bauer
Brian Wallace
known for years that the system bandwidth on an I2 would eat any wintel box alive
(remember the post from the guy doing realtime RGB video rec.?) Did SGI get
around this limitation of x86 architecture (yes, I read about the dual 64bit PCI
buses)??
Would a VPC320 run quakeII decently? :)
Brian
mapl...@gamers.org wrote:
>
> Why do people ask such high prices for 2nd-hand SGIs in Europe?
>
user.
www.sgi.com
Brian Wallace <369BC518...@bigfoot.com>...
Kai-Uwe Bloem
>On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:13:57 GMT, mapl...@gamers.org <mapl...@gamers.org>
>wrote:
>>Why do people ask such high prices for 2nd-hand SGIs in Europe?
>There is absolutely no marekt here in Germany for used Workstations. You see
>one (most SUN, second SGI) every 5 days or something like that. I'd say his
>price is at the low end, if I had the money, I would buy it in Germany :)
Well, market there is. You wouldn't be able to sell at such a high price if
there wouldn't be a market.
>Buying a used SGI from the US is close to impossbile, e.g.:
No. It's just more risk. What to do if you send the money and don't receive
a thing? Sue someone in the US? From germany? Ha!
>$900 price
>+ $200 shipping
>+ $200 (I don't know exactly, could be much more ) customs duty and tax
>+ money exchange with donations for the bank
>= a lot more than 3500 DEM
it's more like $1000 + $100 shipping + (price+shipping)*1.2 VAT and customs,
plus handling charges. At a price of $1000 you come out at about 2500 DEM.
--kub
Thijs Bressers
- 128 Mb RAM
- 2 Gb HD
- 20" Sony monitor (GDM-20D11)
- Ethernet adapter + cabling
- Irix 6.2 + development update pack
for F1600,- = $800,-
Greetz,
Thijs
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