Indigo 2 with Windows NT??
Markus
sorry in advance for -maybe- a stupid question:
Is it possible to run a Indigo 2 with Windows NT?
Walter Roberson
:sorry in advance for -maybe- a stupid question:
:Is it possible to run a Indigo 2 with Windows NT?
As has been often discussed: No, it is not possible to run Windows NT
on an Indigo^2. There was an experimental version of Windows NT that
apparently ran on R4000 Indigos, but it was not distributed, was not
sold, probably no longer exists at all (as in likely not even one
copy still exists.) There is also no intention from MicroSoft to
ever support NT on the Indigo^2.
EVILjosh
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> In article <6r4n04$vrg$1...@news.online.de>, Markus <1013...@online.de> wrote:
> :sorry in advance for -maybe- a stupid question:
> :Is it possible to run a Indigo 2 with Windows NT?
You are kidding right?
> As has been often discussed: No, it is not possible to run Windows NT
> on an Indigo^2. There was an experimental version of Windows NT that
> apparently ran on R4000 Indigos, but it was not distributed, was not
> sold, probably no longer exists at all (as in likely not even one
> copy still exists.) There is also no intention from MicroSoft to
> ever support NT on the Indigo^2.
Thank god. :)
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Intel, Power PC (will go away with 5.0) and Alpha machines.
Markus wrote:
> Hi,
ahoe...@netcom.com
: > Is it possible to run a Indigo 2 with Windows NT?
: Unfortunately, no.
"unfortunately"? ;)
: NT 4.0 has Hardware Abstraction Layers (HALs) for Intel, Power PC (will go
: away with 5.0) and Alpha machines.
nt 4.0 also has a mips hal. it just doesn't support the indigo^2 (or any
other sgi machine, for that matter). in fact i'm a bit hard pressed to
recall what it _does_ support...
mips support has also been discontinued, however, so the chances of nt
_ever_ running on a (mips-based) sgi just took a steep nose dive.
i guess microsoft's commitment to portability isn't quite as strong as they
led customers to believe...
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Tony Jung
Huh? What about SGI's Visual PC? Isn't it based on SGI hardware but running
Win NT? Or at least that is what I have heard. I also heard that it was supposed
to be unveiled at Siggraph, but it was a no show. What is going on with the Visual
PC anyway?
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Neil Rothwell
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>Huh? What about SGI's Visual PC? Isn't it based on SGI hardware but running
>Win NT? Or at least that is what I have heard.
It's a PC, Intel processor & chipset (probably Pentium II Xion 450) but rumoured
to have SGI Graphics.
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| In article: <9036209...@wren.supernews.com> tj...@interport.net (Tony Jung)
| writes:
|>Huh? What about SGI's Visual PC? Isn't it based on SGI hardware but running
|>Win NT? Or at least that is what I have heard.
| It's a PC, Intel processor & chipset (probably Pentium II Xion 450) but rumoured
| to have SGI Graphics.
I will be surprised if the Visual PC has an Intel chipset.
I am expecting it to be more like an O2 with an Intel Processor Module.
Its name could be xeO^n and its shape can be the lunar O2 shape, with
a different color :-)
On the other hand, the O2 architecture would not be able to do Intel
multiprocessing, so it might be a problem. On a second thought
though, one can treat the second P-II as just another device hanging
off the Unified Memory, with its separate bandwidth allocation. Who
knows.
If price has been a design goal, I'd think that the VPC should use the
regular P-II chips, though. I don't believe the VPC will be designed
to handle >2 processors. Also, SGI has the ability to make a 250MHz
part behave like some 600MHz parts in other's systems, so they could
sell 333MHz P-IIs with the performance of the 450 Xeons, and pocket
the differential (which is NOT small, by any means :-)
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Scott Elyard
Jung) wrote:
>Huh? What about SGI's Visual PC? Isn't it based on SGI hardware but running
>Win NT? Or at least that is what I have heard. I also heard that it was
supposed to be unveiled at Siggraph, but it was a no show. What is going
on with the Visual >PC anyway?
The Visual PC will be a high-end Intel-based PC, not a MIPS-based
workstation, although I have heard vague, unsubstantiated rumors that the
VisualPC will incorporate some of the bus technology found in SGIs other
lines.
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Jim McMorrow/Bree O'Mara
I recall a company offering a mips based NT workstation for use with
Softimage NT when it first shipped. Can't remember the name but it
wasn't SGI, it did have a mips cpu and was running NT.
Does this mean there would have been a version of NT for mips that has
perhaps been dropped since?
Jim
Nick Gustafson
Yes, there was a MIPS version of NT - but Micro$oft dropped support due to
lack of interest? I don't recall that last version to support MIPS, but I think
it
was NT 3.5? Could have been earlier.
-Nick
James Stutts
Nick Gustafson <_n...@snix.com_> wrote in message
<35DFC9EB...@snix.com_>...
>Jim McMorrow/Bree O'Mara wrote:
>
>> Scott Elyard wrote:
>> >
>> > In article <9036209...@wren.supernews.com>, tj...@interport.net
(Tony
>> > Jung) wrote:
<snip>
>Yes, there was a MIPS version of NT - but Micro$oft dropped support due to
>lack of interest? I don't recall that last version to support MIPS, but I
think
>it
>was NT 3.5? Could have been earlier.
My NT 4.0 disk contains images for Mips, x86, PPC and Alpha.
The patch levels are higher for Alpha and x86 because support
was dropped for PPC and Mips based systems. Of course,
as mentioned before, these Mips machines weren't SGI's...
JCS
Hercules Huggins
--> nt 4.0 also has a mips hal. it just doesn't support the indigo^2 (or any
--> other sgi machine, for that matter). in fact i'm a bit hard pressed to
--> recall what it _does_ support...
It supports some MIPS based NEC workstations that used the R4x00
processor. I think another company made MIPS based PC but I don't remember
who.
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Mark E. Harrison
>
>
> Softimage NT when it first shipped. Can't remember the name but it
> wasn't SGI, it did have a mips cpu and was running NT.
> perhaps been dropped since?
>
> Jim
I believe you are thinking of NeTpower. NeTpower was started by some
ex-SGI employees to build MIPS/NT workstations. NeTpower switched to
Intel/NT workstations later.
Also, I thought that MIPS/NT 4 would work on R4400 Indys.
Mark Harrison
Mark E. Harrison
>
> It supports some MIPS based NEC workstations that used the R4x00
> processor. I think another company made MIPS based PC but I don't remember
> who.
NeTpower was started by ex-SGI employees as a MIPS/NT workstation
provider. NeTpower later switched to the Intel/NT platform.
Mark Harrison
Sean Yamamoto
"Mark E. Harrison" <mage...@traveller.com> writes:
>
> I believe you are thinking of NeTpower. NeTpower was started by some
> ex-SGI employees to build MIPS/NT workstations. NeTpower switched to
> Intel/NT workstations later.
Yeah, but they're pretty much defunct now. They ran out of cash, put
themselves on sale, layed off about 200 people and then the fifteen or
so left fired each other.
> Also, I thought that MIPS/NT 4 would work on R4400 Indys.
Hmmm, I would like to see that.
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EVILjosh
> Win NT? Or at least that is what I have heard. I also heard that it was supposed
> to be unveiled at Siggraph, but it was a no show. What is going on with the Visual
> PC anyway?
Who cares. Yet ANOTHER Winblows box.