On 11/7/23 12:22 AM, mm0fmf wrote:
> On 07/11/2023 03:39, 56d.1152 wrote:
>> BookWorm changed a lot of things - and NOT always
>> for the best. Particularly vexing for PI users who
>> create headless, non-GUI, applications is that all
>> the old ways of setting up static IPs and such for
>> ethernet and wireless are no longer viable, and
>> there's only the hideously-documented 'nmcli' for
>> doing things. Yea, it CAN work - but it's so awful
>> that it should commit suicide immediately for
>> the good of human-kind.
>
> nmcli is really quite straightforward once you play with. Or use the
> 'graphic' text mode tool nmtui.
No, I don't think it's "straightforward" at all. I'm
gonna write a new one that IS.
And basically we were talking "headless", non-GUI,
installs - ie the "lite" versions for Pi.
Anyway, do as you will. I'm just providing *a* way,
that's still in the nmcli universe, but maybe easier
to deal with. Someone else seems to have found a
way to still use /etc/network and wpa_supplicant -
albeit in a slightly odd way - that'll still work
on Bookworm. It's just evil to be reduced to kinda
un-inventing the wheel simply to Get Stuff Done.
> Seems a much better idea to me to learn to use the tools rather than
> muck about with files 'you have discovered' and could change on the next
> update rendering your work moot.
Nope. Screw 'em. Looking at FreeBSD-ARM again already ...
ain't gonna play the Canonical "Let's Change Everything
For No Reason" game anymore. Linux suddenly seems to
be self-destructing.
> Here's a link to nmcli, doesn't seem to be hideous to me.
It is. There are a lot of things you have to set, maybe
reset, for a eth0 or wifi interface. nmcli does NOT make
that process smooth of obvious.
Maybe to YOU ... but I've seen a number here who see
it my way.
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https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/networking_guide/sec-configuring_ip_networking_with_nmcli>