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Adam Funk

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Mar 2, 2017, 6:45:04 AM3/2/17
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Running get-iplayer on the Pi mini-server (from the hedgerows.org.uk
repository), I got this warning:

WARNING: Required ffmpeg utility not found - not converting .ts file

which I hadn't seen before on Ubuntu systems. I searched around & it
turns out installing ffmpeg on Raspbian is a bit of bother:

<http://www.jeffreythompson.org/blog/2014/11/13/installing-ffmpeg-for-raspberry-pi/>

so I was going to post here to ask why Raspbian's repositories don't
provide ffmpeg (most Debian-based distributions seem to). Then I
remembered the ffmpeg/avconv fork, & saw that I have avconv on the
mini-server.

Are the avconv & ffmpeg command-lines still compatible enough that I
could symlink ffmpeg to avconv & expect get-iplayer to carry through?

Thanks,
Adam


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jack...@gmail.com

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Mar 2, 2017, 7:06:34 AM3/2/17
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Il giorno giovedì 2 marzo 2017 12:45:04 UTC+1, Adam Funk ha scritto:
> Running get-iplayer on the Pi mini-server (from the hedgerows.org.uk
> repository), I got this warning:
>
> WARNING: Required ffmpeg utility not found - not converting .ts file
>
> which I hadn't seen before on Ubuntu systems. I searched around & it
> turns out installing ffmpeg on Raspbian is a bit of bother:
>
> <http://www.jeffreythompson.org/blog/2014/11/13/installing-ffmpeg-for-raspberry-pi/>
>
> so I was going to post here to ask why Raspbian's repositories don't
> provide ffmpeg (most Debian-based distributions seem to). Then I
> remembered the ffmpeg/avconv fork, & saw that I have avconv on the
> mini-server.
>
> Are the avconv & ffmpeg command-lines still compatible enough that I
> could symlink ffmpeg to avconv & expect get-iplayer to carry through?

avconv is shitty.
Debian is going back to ffmpeg.
Let's hope that raspbian people do that soon enough.
On internet you'll find that someone has packetized a version of ffmpeg for the rpi, that you can install with a simple dpkg -i packet.
I don't remember the link, but google is your firend.

Bye Jack

Chris Elvidge

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Mar 2, 2017, 7:50:22 AM3/2/17
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On 02/03/2017 11:39, Adam Funk wrote:
> Running get-iplayer on the Pi mini-server (from the hedgerows.org.uk
> repository), I got this warning:
>
> WARNING: Required ffmpeg utility not found - not converting .ts file
>
> which I hadn't seen before on Ubuntu systems. I searched around & it
> turns out installing ffmpeg on Raspbian is a bit of bother:
>
> <http://www.jeffreythompson.org/blog/2014/11/13/installing-ffmpeg-for-raspberry-pi/>
>
> so I was going to post here to ask why Raspbian's repositories don't
> provide ffmpeg (most Debian-based distributions seem to). Then I
> remembered the ffmpeg/avconv fork, & saw that I have avconv on the
> mini-server.
>
> Are the avconv & ffmpeg command-lines still compatible enough that I
> could symlink ffmpeg to avconv & expect get-iplayer to carry through?
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
>
>
Yes, install ffmpeg from git repos as above - and it does take a long
time to compile. It installs ffmpeg to /usr/local.

And, if you run get_iplayer from cron, make sure /usr/local/bin is in
the path (I use PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin) in the
crontab file.


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A. Dumas

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Mar 2, 2017, 8:33:44 AM3/2/17
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On 02/03/2017 13:06, jack...@gmail.com wrote:
> avconv is shitty.

Does what I want: some transcoding, making timelapse video from images.
How/when do you find it to be shitty?

Dave Liquorice

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Mar 2, 2017, 9:18:13 AM3/2/17
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:59:02 +0000 (UTC), Roger Bell_West wrote:

> But IME get_iplayer will look for either anyway.

get_iplayer 2.99 (latest) does, but some conversions need versions
>2.5 or >v3.0. One or other of ffmpeg or avconv is depreciated in
get_iplayer but I forget which.

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jack...@gmail.com

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Mar 2, 2017, 11:22:01 AM3/2/17
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less options, less performance.

Bye Jack

gregor herrmann

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Mar 4, 2017, 4:00:30 PM3/4/17
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 11:39:40 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:

> so I was going to post here to ask why Raspbian's repositories don't
> provide ffmpeg (most Debian-based distributions seem to). Then I
> remembered the ffmpeg/avconv fork, & saw that I have avconv on the
> mini-server.

That's in jessie, in stretch we're back to ffmpeg:

% apt-cache policy ffmpeg libav-tools
ffmpeg:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 7:3.2.4-1
Version table:
7:3.2.4-1 500
500 http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian stretch/main armhf Packages
libav-tools:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 7:3.2.4-1
Version table:
7:3.2.4-1 500
500 http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian stretch/main armhf Packages
6:11.8-1~deb8u1+rpi1 500
500 http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian jessie/main armhf Packages

And libav-tools/3.2.4-1 in stretch is just a compatibility package:

% apt-cache show libav-tools
Package: libav-tools
Source: ffmpeg
Version: 7:3.2.4-1
Installed-Size: 90
[..]
Depends: ffmpeg
[..]
Description: Compatibility links for libav-tools (transitional package)
FFmpeg is the leading multimedia framework, able to decode, encode, transcode,
mux, demux, stream, filter and play pretty much anything that humans and
machines have created. It supports the most obscure ancient formats up to the
cutting edge.
.
This is a transitional package that provides the following links:
* avconv -> ffmpeg
* avplay -> ffplay
* avprobe -> ffprobe
This package can be removed, when nothing uses the av* program names anymore.


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Adam Funk

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Mar 9, 2017, 5:30:05 AM3/9/17
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On 2017-03-04, gregor herrmann wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 11:39:40 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
>
>> so I was going to post here to ask why Raspbian's repositories don't
>> provide ffmpeg (most Debian-based distributions seem to). Then I
>> remembered the ffmpeg/avconv fork, & saw that I have avconv on the
>> mini-server.
>
> That's in jessie, in stretch we're back to ffmpeg:
[snip]

Aha, maybe it's time to upgrade.


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