Fax app for S5
Paul Coogan
I spoke to Psion last week who advised that the UNSUPPORTED Fax DEMO will
be available soon
Mail, WWW, And full fax software to follow later at a charge !
Presumably we are to get only "light" versions of these products
I hope we get the full programs Free as stated on the Web site
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Evan Ruff
I know this is a family newsgroup and that profanity is very taboo, but...
are the people at Psion FUCKING idiots?
They come out with a far superior product that has loads of power to spare
to compete with a product that is touted for it's connectivity. They DO NOT
include a built in software modem a la Velo because they want to sell you a
$150.00 PCMCIA adapter so you can pay another $150.00 for the modem, plus
more money for the software?
Stupid.
Evan
Paul Coogan <paul....@virgin.net> wrote in article
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Tony Globe
Paul Coogan wrote:
>
> I spoke to Psion last week who advised that the UNSUPPORTED Fax DEMO will
> be available soon
I understand all of that except for a) unsupported and b) demo.
Can you (or anyone else) expand on this snippet?
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Tony Globe
Evan Ruff
No GSM in the US, and cellular is expensive as hell (analog). There is PCS
in limited areas, but I'm not in one :-(.
Evan
>
> Perhaps, not. I hear that Philips are dumping the analog modem
> connector and replacing it with a GSM connection (ie RS232) in Europe.
> Obviously not considered too important.
>
> Do you have GSM in the US?
>
jfmezei
Evan Ruff wrote:
>
> No GSM in the US, and cellular is expensive as hell (analog). There is PCS
> in limited areas, but I'm not in one :-(.
There is GSM in the USA and CANADA now. But they operate in the 1900 mHz
frequencies, different from the ones in the rest of the world. But the
telephones have the same functionality.
In Canada, the GSM provider is Microcell using the trade mark "FIDO" for
its service.
I beleive that the GSM company in the USA is called OMNIPOINT.
Stephen Wolfson
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:11:06 GMT, adrian@refine***.co.uk (Adrian
Milliner) wrote:
>
>A mobile PDA is not so great if you have to plug it into the wall to
>communicate. Actually, I don't really believe that!
>
Actually I've considered that question and its part of the reason the
Psion design is a plus for me. Upon careful examination of my modem
usage, I almost always use PDA dial up to access email and the
occasional web site from my hotel room while on travel. So the
obvious is why do I need a PCMCIA modem at all, just throw in an
external 28.8 modem (they're pretty small and light these days) into
my luggate and just use the AC adapter and RS232 connector
from the Psion.
Alasdair Manson
>I beleive that the GSM company in the USA is called OMNIPOINT.
There is more than one company in the US rolling out PCS-1900 service.
From memory:
APC
APT
BellSouth
Omnipoint
Pacific Bell
Pocket Communications, Inc.
Powertel
Western Wireless
regards
Ali
jfmezei
Alasdair Manson wrote:
> There is more than one company in the US rolling out PCS-1900 service.
> From memory:
>
> APC
> APT
> BellSouth
> Omnipoint
> Pacific Bell
> Pocket Communications, Inc.
> Powertel
> Western Wireless
Omnipoint, I beleive, is the only one which adheres to the GSM standard.
The others use the "proprietary" USA protocols of CDMA and TDMA (yep,
even inside the USA, they couldn't agree on a single protocol). In
Canada, AT&T (Cantel) is going CDMA, and BELL (Mobility) will be going
TDMA. Fido is GSM. All are in the 1900 and are are considered PCS.
CDMA and TDMA do offer the equivalent to SMS, but is restricted to 150
characters. I do not know how they would interface to a PSION gadget
which expects to connect to a GSM phone.
Alasdair Manson
>Alasdair Manson wrote:
>> There is more than one company in the US rolling out PCS-1900 service.
>> From memory:
>>
>> APC
>> APT
>> BellSouth
>> Omnipoint
>> Pacific Bell
>> Pocket Communications, Inc.
>> Powertel
>> Western Wireless
>
>Omnipoint, I beleive, is the only one which adheres to the GSM standard.
>The others use the "proprietary" USA protocols of CDMA and TDMA (yep,
>even inside the USA, they couldn't agree on a single protocol). In
>Canada, AT&T (Cantel) is going CDMA, and BELL (Mobility) will be going
>TDMA. Fido is GSM. All are in the 1900 and are are considered PCS.
The list I gave is providers who are using PCS-1900 (GSM). The main
CDMA and TDMA providers are companies like Sprint and AT&T.
We've tested GSM applications like Telenote Link with Omnipoint,
BellSouth and PacBell and it works fine.
regards
Ali
John Hunt
In message <5qjnja$mpo$1...@news.aimnet.com>
jo...@mediamatics.com (John McAleely) writes:
> Since one of the benefits of GSM in Europe is roaming across the
continent, is
> it technically possible to roam a US handset in Europe (I'm
interested in the
> UK)? Does anyone know if service agreements are in place to do that?
Technically yes, GSM is GSM, technically I can use Cellnet and
Vodafone in the UK but they don't have a roaming agreement so my
phone won't work in a Cellnet only area and vice-versa. Cellnet have
a set of roaming agreements with the USA which they are advertising
heavily on tv here just now, however vodafone are caliming due to
technical deifferences they will rent you a phone in the USA. In
other words Cellnet beat them to it, but I would imagine this is a
restrictive practice as there is nothing to stop more than one
network signing agreement with another technically, my vodafone could
be set to prefer v/f over c/net but still offer c/net where v/f isn't
available (in practice it's normally the other way round in Scotland!).
John
John McAleely
In article <33cc705b...@news.tiac.net>, ali-m...@psion.com (Alasdair Manson) wrote:
>On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:46:49 -0500, jfmezei
><"jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]> wrote:
>>I beleive that the GSM company in the USA is called OMNIPOINT.
> APT
> BellSouth
> Omnipoint
> Pacific Bell
> Pocket Communications, Inc.
> Powertel
> Western Wireless
it technically possible to roam a US handset in Europe (I'm interested in the
UK)? Does anyone know if service agreements are in place to do that?
J
Paul Good
jfmezei wrote:
>
> Evan Ruff wrote:
> >
> > No GSM in the US, and cellular is expensive as hell (analog). There is PCS
> > in limited areas, but I'm not in one :-(.
>
> There is GSM in the USA and CANADA now. But they operate in the 1900 mHz
> frequencies, different from the ones in the rest of the world. But the
> telephones have the same functionality.
>
> In Canada, the GSM provider is Microcell using the trade mark "FIDO" for
> its service.
>
Actually there are a number of GSM providers in the U.S. Omnipoint is
just one of the first to market, but the market is expanding rapidly.
Regards,
Paul Good
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Paul Good
jfmezei wrote:
>
> Alasdair Manson wrote:
> > There is more than one company in the US rolling out PCS-1900 service.
> > From memory:
> >
> > APT
> > BellSouth
> > Omnipoint
> > Pacific Bell
> > Pocket Communications, Inc.
> > Powertel
> > Western Wireless
>
> The others use the "proprietary" USA protocols of CDMA and TDMA (yep,
> even inside the USA, they couldn't agree on a single protocol). In
> Canada, AT&T (Cantel) is going CDMA, and BELL (Mobility) will be going
> TDMA. Fido is GSM. All are in the 1900 and are are considered PCS.
>
> characters. I do not know how they would interface to a PSION gadget
> which expects to connect to a GSM phone.
The vendors listed by Ali do provide true GSM, the difference is the
frequence as compared to Europe. It is true that other companies are
moving to CDMA, but GSM is growing in presence.
Paul Good
John McAleely wrote:
>
> In article <33cc705b...@news.tiac.net>, ali-m...@psion.com (Alasdair Manson) wrote:
> >On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:46:49 -0500, jfmezei
> ><"jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]> wrote:
> > APT
> > BellSouth
> > Omnipoint
> > Pacific Bell
> > Pocket Communications, Inc.
> > Powertel
> > Western Wireless
> it technically possible to roam a US handset in Europe (I'm interested in the
> UK)? Does anyone know if service agreements are in place to do that?
>
> J
Currently roaming between the continents with the same handset will not
be possible since the U.S. is based on a 1900MHz frequency and Europe is
based on a 1800 and I believe an 850 with an ongoing migration to 1800
only. I would expect that as the U.S. market becomes more mature and
Europe evolves to 1800 only you will see dual mode handsets being
released.
Peter Fletcher
No - at least not with the same phone at present. The US authorities chose
to allocate different radio frequencies from the rest of the world, so GSM
phones operate at 1900 MHz in the USA and 900MHz or 1800MHz in the other
120 countries where GSM is used..
You should be able to fit your SIM card into hired or borrowed regular GSM
phone, provided your service provider has an appropriate agreement with
another (there are usually several) in the country(ies) you intend to
visit. In the UK, of the four national operators in the UK - Cellnet,
Vodafone, Orange and One-2-One, the first two and possibly the third, will
offer such a service, although since they have to negotiate with each of
the multitude of regional operators in the USA individually you should
check which of them (if any) has a deal with your local provider.
It is likely that multi-band phones - 900/1800/1900 - will be available
from the bigger manufacturers - Ericsson, Nokia and possibly Motorola by
the end of the year.
I'm afraid that US mobile phone users are severely challenged in the
roaming department. (it's also very irritating for me since I shall be
visiting the dark continent next week and will be cut off from the world)
In message <5qjnja$mpo$1...@news.aimnet.com>
jo...@mediamatics.com (John McAleely) writes:
Ian Hunter
In article <33cd13f2...@news.ftech.net>, Adrian Milliner wrote:
> I hear that Philips are dumping the analog modem
> connector and replacing it with a GSM connection (ie RS232) in Europe.
The GSM functionality is in addition to the inbuilt soft modem and will
be available separately for US users.
Ian Hunter.
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