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BGurfinkel

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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As in sigh-un?
Sigh-yawn?
Is the "p" silent?

I've looked in several dictionaries and not one carries the word, yet I
seem to
remember seeing it somewhere, perhaps in a science context.


Bob Gurfinkel

Charley Moore

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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Sigh-on

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jfmezei

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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In england, PSION is pronounced ZION !!!! Don't ask me why, I have no
idea. I was in a meeting in London a few years ago and a brit was
surprised that I had a ZION ! I didn't know they were sold around the
world. At first, I had no idea what he was talking about !

Jason Banham SysAdm

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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BGurfinkel (bgurf...@aol.com) wrote:
: As in sigh-un?

Nope

: Sigh-yawn?

Nope

: Is the "p" silent?

Yes.
I (and most of my colleagues) pronounce it as Psi-On (sigh on)


Regards,

Jayce.
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Ian Penson

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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bgurf...@aol.com (BGurfinkel) wrote:

>As in sigh-un?
>Sigh-yawn?
>Is the "p" silent?

>I've looked in several dictionaries and not one carries the word, yet I
>seem to
>remember seeing it somewhere, perhaps in a science context.

"Sigh-on"

Ian P
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for useful Audio and Psion software.
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Julian Midgley

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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In article <19970624124...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

bgurf...@aol.com (BGurfinkel) wrote:
>
> As in sigh-un?
> Sigh-yawn?
> Is the "p" silent?
>
> I've looked in several dictionaries and not one carries the word, yet I
> seem to
> remember seeing it somewhere, perhaps in a science context.
>
>

It's pronouced "sigh-on" with the emphasis on the "sigh".

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Faye Pearson

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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You must have found a very interesting brit then. I have always
pronounced Psion like Simon without the m. My main reason for
doing this is the Greek letter Psi. I would guess that any 'Psiontist'
would pronounce it similarly.

England is the *home* of Psion by the way.


Faye

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Irvine Short

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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In article <33b006b1...@news.demon.co.uk>, cha...@nospam.aitkog.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>As in sigh-un?
>>Sigh-yawn?
>>Is the "p" silent?
>>
>>I've looked in several dictionaries and not one carries the word, yet I
>>seem to
>>remember seeing it somewhere, perhaps in a science context.

Unlikely to be listed in a dictionary as it is a convolution of "Potter's
Scientific Instruments"

Regards,
Irvine Short
Tech Support Professional Computer Manufacturers
Cape Town, South Africa. Email:ish...@pcm.co.za


BGurfinkel

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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Potter's Scientific Instruments = Psion
However, might there not be a bit of wordplay with "scion", an heir or
descendant, or a plant shoot?


Bob Gurfinkel

Mark Coughlan

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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I'ts pronounced 'better then wince'

BGurfinkel <bgurf...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970624124...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...


> As in sigh-un?
> Sigh-yawn?
> Is the "p" silent?
>
> I've looked in several dictionaries and not one carries the word, yet I
> seem to
> remember seeing it somewhere, perhaps in a science context.
>
>

> Bob Gurfinkel
>

Ajai Khattri

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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On 24 Jun 1997 12:45:06 GMT, bgurf...@aol.com (BGurfinkel), wrote:

|As in sigh-un?
|Sigh-yawn?
|Is the "p" silent?

Here are some popular MISpronounciations we've have heard from
customers over the past few years:

POISON
PUSSS-EYE-ON
PISSS-ON
PS-10-EN <- I kid you not!
SEEEE-ON <-- French accent
PIE-ZON
SIGH-ON <-- correct

Cheers,
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New World Technologies - `the Psion house'
Any mistakes I make are prob. due to human OOM errors ;-)
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Tony Globe

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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jfmezei wrote:
>
> In england, PSION is pronounced ZION !!!! Don't ask me why, I have no
> idea. I was in a meeting in London a few years ago and a brit was
> surprised that I had a ZION ! I didn't know they were sold around the
> world. At first, I had no idea what he was talking about !

I am a Brit - and I'd have had no idea what he was talking about either!

Maybe he was in need of a Zychiatrist :)
--

Regards

Tony Globe

Eric Warner

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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In article <19970625124...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, BGurfinkel
<bgurf...@aol.com> writes

Just to add to the folklore here .....

I seem to remember reading a magazine interview with Potter who gave the
answer to what the name meant as :

"Potter's Scientific Instruments - Or Nothing"

NO SIG {Just a little Met. joke there.}

Eric Warner

Harvey Gordon

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Ian Penson wrote:

>
> bgurf...@aol.com (BGurfinkel) wrote:
>
> >As in sigh-un?
> >Sigh-yawn?
> >Is the "p" silent?
>
> >I've looked in several dictionaries and not one carries the word, yet I
> >seem to
> >remember seeing it somewhere, perhaps in a science context.
>
> "Sigh-on"
>
> Ian P
> -----------------------------------
> http://homepages.enterprise.net/ianpenson/index.htm
> for useful Audio and Psion software.
> -----------------------------------

It is pronounced "sion", the P is silent as in Swimming!!
--
Regards from DownUnder
Harvey Gordon
Carlingford, Sydney Australia

Julian Midgley

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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In article <5opiki$23s$7...@walton.videotron.net>, jfmezei

<"jfmezei"@videotron.ca.[no.spam]> wrote:
>
> In england, PSION is pronounced ZION !!!! Don't ask me why, I have no
> idea. I was in a meeting in London a few years ago and a brit was
> surprised that I had a ZION ! I didn't know they were sold around the
> world. At first, I had no idea what he was talking about !
>

It's not, you know. Of all the Psion owners I've come across, not one has
pronounced it Zion. I'm afraid the chap you met must have been a one off.

Steve Gutteridge

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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On 24 Jun 1997 12:45:06 GMT, bgurf...@aol.com (BGurfinkel) wrote:

>As in sigh-un?
>Sigh-yawn?
>Is the "p" silent?

I call my Psion Organiser a "Spy on Organ Grinder". This was taken
from a Radio Advertisement from about three years ago.

People in my office call it a Piss-on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Steve Gutteridge: st...@bramber.demon.co.uk#
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Boyscout

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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In article <33B236...@acay.com.au>, hgo...@acay.com.au says...

>
>Ian Penson wrote:
>>
>> bgurf...@aol.com (BGurfinkel) wrote:
>>
>> >As in sigh-un?
>> >Sigh-yawn?
>> >Is the "p" silent?
>>
>> >I've looked in several dictionaries and not one carries the word, yet
I
>> >seem to
>> >remember seeing it somewhere, perhaps in a science context.
>>
>> "Sigh-on"
>>
>> Ian P
>> -----------------------------------
>> http://homepages.enterprise.net/ianpenson/index.htm
>> for useful Audio and Psion software.
>> -----------------------------------
>
>It is pronounced "sion", the P is silent as in Swimming!!
>--
>Regards from DownUnder
>Harvey Gordon
>Carlingford, Sydney Australia


Hello,

But why not P-S-I-O-N, pronouncing the "P"?
If it is Potter's Scientific Instruments, why shouldn't we pronounce the
"P"?

Pedro Regalla


Ajai Khattri

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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On 26 Jun 1997 15:02:12 GMT, Boys...@azec.com (Boyscout), wrote:

|But why not P-S-I-O-N, pronouncing the "P"?
|If it is Potter's Scientific Instruments, why shouldn't we pronounce the
|"P"?

How would you pronounce PSI (as in the Greek letter) ?

Regards,

Tony Globe

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Harvey Gordon wrote:

> It is pronounced "sion", the P is silent as in Swimming!!

But Swimming hasn't got a P!
--

Regards

Tony Globe

Louise Bremner

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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> >In england, PSION is pronounced ZION !!!!

Faye Pearson <fa...@zippysoft.com> wrote:

> You must have found a very interesting brit then.

Hmmmmmmm.... I've been told, frequently, that I harden my esses more
than is usual in British usage (I mean, I tend to say *uz* rather than
*us*), and I assume it's left over from the broad eee-baah-gum accent I
picked up from my grandad when I was small. So maybe jfmezei met a
Yorkshireman in London who was doing exactly what my grandad did--laying
on the accent extra-thick, to annoy Southerners (particularly his
son-in-law :-) and confuse foreigners?

But I don't think I harden *sigh-on* as far as *zion*, though.

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Alasdair Baxter

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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In article <33b25446...@bbcnews.reith.bbc.co.uk>, Steve Gutteridge
<St...@bramber.demon.co.uk#> writes

>On 24 Jun 1997 12:45:06 GMT, bgurf...@aol.com (BGurfinkel) wrote:
>
>>As in sigh-un?
>>Sigh-yawn?
>>Is the "p" silent?
>
>I call my Psion Organiser a "Spy on Organ Grinder". This was taken
>from a Radio Advertisement from about three years ago.

I have heard it referred to as the "Psion Shopper". Apparently some
persons of a criminal persuasion used the old Psion II to keep records
of their "deals". When their house was raided and the organiser taken
away, Psion Ltd were able to recover deleted materials from the datapaks
and this helped in their conviction. They were "shopped" by their
Psion.
--
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"It's not what you say that matters but how you say it.
It's not what you do that matters but how you do it"

MsM122

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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In article <33B2E8...@btinternet.com>, Tony Globe
<Tony....@btinternet.com> writes:

>> It is pronounced "sion", the P is silent as in Swimming!!

>But Swimming hasn't got a P!

Anyone with children will realize that there is P in swimming! Do you
have children?

--Michael


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Duncan Adams

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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In article <19970627010...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, MsM122
<msm...@aol.com> writes

>In article <33B2E8...@btinternet.com>, Tony Globe
><Tony....@btinternet.com> writes:
>
>>> It is pronounced "sion", the P is silent as in Swimming!!
>
>>But Swimming hasn't got a P!
>
>Anyone with children will realize that there is P in swimming! Do you
>have children?

I think the point has been missed.
When swimming, the P is silent.
Unless diving boards are involved.

Regards,
Duncan Adams.

Daniel Pfund

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Alasdair Baxter wrote:

> I have heard it referred to as the "Psion Shopper". Apparently some
> persons of a criminal persuasion used the old Psion II to keep records
> of their "deals". When their house was raided and the organiser taken
> away, Psion Ltd were able to recover deleted materials from the datapaks
> and this helped in their conviction. They were "shopped" by their
> Psion.

Funny you mention this, as it's not quite unrare as you believe!

I get about 2-3 emails per year by "police officers" or other "detectives"
asking me (as I maintain the FAQ) how you can bypass the password in order
to convict people!!!

Regards,

Daniel Pfund

PS: the answer is go see Psion, as only they can do it!
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Hans Nygaard

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Jun 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/27/97
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Tony Globe wrote:

>
> jfmezei wrote:
> >
> > In england, PSION is pronounced ZION !!!!

And is has just as much to do with religion!

;o) Hans

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Connie

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When I first got a Psion in 1993, I thought the "psi" referred to
enhanced mental capacities - you know, like in science fiction novels
where they sometimes call people names beginning with "psi" who have
telepathic or other extraordinary brain abilities (kind of like
"psychic"). I liked the idea that they may have named the Psion this
way. Then I found out about Potter's Scientific Instruments. Sigh.
Not nearly as imaginative. Guess I've been reading too much science
fiction :)

mani

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to all criminals and potential criminals:

don't keep your data on flash packs, but only in internal memory.
when you get raided, ensure all three batteries are removed quickly, and thrown
far away from the system unit, to ensure they can't be re-inserted to save the
data from "running away"...
voila, data is now gone.
the same does not apply to flash disks that you delete data from, because it can
be recovered if the flash disk hasn't been formatted :(

ok?

apparently my p.c. works the same way with it's disk
as the psion does with it's flash ?!?
so i have to run a program called wipe-i.t. <grin>
to ensure that the deleted file area is written to and deleted 5 times, so that
any information cannot be recovered even by highly advanced scientific
examination of residual flux densities on the disk.
phew.....

and no, i'm not a criminal (parking fine excepted) or a spy :-)))
but this information may save someone's neck/reputation in some countries whose
police-state is clamping down on free speech or human rights etc.

}I have heard it referred to as the "Psion Shopper". Apparently some
}persons of a criminal persuasion used the old Psion II to keep records
}of their "deals". When their house was raided and the organiser taken
}away, Psion Ltd were able to recover deleted materials from the datapaks
}and this helped in their conviction. They were "shopped" by their
}Psion.


regards, mani
ma...@btinternet.com

Alan Clifford

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Hello Louise

LB> Hmmmmmmm.... I've been told, frequently, that I harden my esses more
LB> than is usual in British usage (I mean, I tend to say *uz* rather
LB> than *us*), and I assume it's left over from the broad eee-baah-gum
LB> accent I picked up from my grandad when I was small. So maybe jfmezei
LB> met a Yorkshireman in London who was doing exactly what my grandad
LB> did--laying on the accent extra-thick, to annoy Southerners
LB> (particularly his son-in-law :-) and confuse foreigners?

I used to catch the school buzz when I was young.


Alan

(Please remove the $ in the address if replying by email)


Julian Midgley

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Jun 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/29/97
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In article <33b63ff1...@news.btinternet.com>, ma...@btinternet.com

(mani) wrote:
>
> apparently my p.c. works the same way with it's disk
> as the psion does with it's flash ?!?
> so i have to run a program called wipe-i.t. <grin>
> to ensure that the deleted file area is written to and deleted 5 times, so
> that
> any information cannot be recovered even by highly advanced scientific
> examination of residual flux densities on the disk.
> phew.....

As I understand it, some of the state of the art data recovery systems can
recover a significant amount of data even after it has been overwritten ten
times, so you may need to run your wipe-i.t. program more than twice :-)

Mark Dobie

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In <33caaff2...@news.infohouse.com> aj...@nwt.com (Ajai Khattri) writes:

>On 26 Jun 1997 15:02:12 GMT, Boys...@azec.com (Boyscout), wrote:

>|But why not P-S-I-O-N, pronouncing the "P"?
>|If it is Potter's Scientific Instruments, why shouldn't we pronounce the
>|"P"?

>How would you pronounce PSI (as in the Greek letter) ?

But Psi is a word and PSION is an acronym (he said, playing devil's
advocate) so we, as high tech pioneers at the forefront of language
abuse (I mean evolution!) are allowed to make up any pronunciation we
find catchy, convenient or witty.

After all, we don't say mussdoss (MSDOS), tickleteekay (TCL/TK), vye
(VI), wuhwuhwuh (WWW)... or do we?

It's not a real word so pronounce it how you like, and if somebody
doesn't understand then just whip it out and show 'em! :-)


Mark


Johny B.

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Jun 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/30/97
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That's why the army and other high security organisations destroy the old
harddisks when they no longer need them.


----------------------------------
Johny Bens, Belgium
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Tony Globe

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Mark Dobie wrote:

> After all, we don't say mussdoss (MSDOS), tickleteekay (TCL/TK), vye
> (VI), wuhwuhwuh (WWW)... or do we?

Methinks we do :)

.....or why would we say whizzywig (WYSIWYG), scuzzy (SCSI), gooey (GUI)
or you art (UART - no, I wasn't getting biblical, 'else I'd have said
thou art :)
--

Regards

Tony Globe

Binesh Lad

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Jun 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/30/97
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>
> Unlikely to be listed in a dictionary as it is a convolution of
> "Potter's Scientific Instruments"
>
I think that the generally accepted full name is "Potter's Scientific
Instruments Or Nothing".I guess this is an indication of David Potter's
early ambitions to succeed.

Binesh

Tony Globe

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Jul 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/1/97
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Chris wrote:

> Pswimming. There is now,satisfied:) Either that or your taking one.

Taking the Psiss, you mean.....?
--

Regards

Tony Globe

Mike Salmon

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Jul 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/2/97
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Mark Dobie <m...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in article
<5p8dls$b...@wapping.ecs.soton.ac.uk>...

> After all, we don't say mussdoss (MSDOS), tickleteekay (TCL/TK), vye
> (VI), wuhwuhwuh (WWW)... or do we?

Um, yes actually!
I've heard messdoss, messydoss, tickle-tick, vye and wuhwuhwuh (as well as
wubble-oo-wubble-oo-wubble-oo, and with a straight face too!). In fact, I
think vye is used more often than vee-eye here.
Maybe we're weird (depths of Norfolk).

mike.


O'Shaughnessy Evans

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Jul 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/2/97
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In article <01bc86d1$bd6c27c0$3c68...@grey.cru.uea.ac.uk>,

Completely off-topic from the n.g., but I'll put in my two bits anyhow.
I've never heard anyone say "vye" instead of "v-i". I've heard that
it's done that way, but only through Usenet messages. For some reason,
I still say "tickle-tee-kay" instead of "t-c-l-t-k" or something else.
I think it comes down to the pronouncability of the acronym/abbreviation,
and the conventions of the people I work with: I call "/usr" -> "slash-user",
"/etc" -> "slash-etcetera", "MS-DOS" -> "m-s-doss". Every protocol I can
think of gets spelled out: "f-t-p", "h-t-t-p", "t-c-p", "s-m-t-p", etc.
"dubba-you dubba-you dubba-you" is a real pain to say, but I can't come
up with a better one that doesn't sound too lame (and saying "wuh wuh wuh"
would make me feel lame). Let's see.... I can't come up with any more
UNIX-ish abbrevs. off the top o' my head.

--
- O'Shaughnessy Evans
- UNIX/Internet Systems Administrator, GST Call America; SLO, Ca
- "I'm about to write you a reality check..." -- The Tick

Jawed Ashraf

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Jul 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/2/97
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"Mike Salmon" <m.sa...@uea.ac.uk> wrote:

>Mark Dobie <m...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in article
><5p8dls$b...@wapping.ecs.soton.ac.uk>...
>> After all, we don't say mussdoss (MSDOS), tickleteekay (TCL/TK), vye
>> (VI), wuhwuhwuh (WWW)... or do we?

>Um, yes actually!
>I've heard messdoss, messydoss, tickle-tick, vye and wuhwuhwuh (as well as
>wubble-oo-wubble-oo-wubble-oo, and with a straight face too!). In fact, I
>think vye is used more often than vee-eye here.
>Maybe we're weird (depths of Norfolk).

When vi hit the streets of the University of Warwick back in 84/85 (or
was it a little later, I left there in 87...) the pronunciation was
"Vye".

Apparently in the States, they say "See-eye-see-ess" instead of
"kicks" for the acronym "CICS". Strange, but true...

Jawed
(-: Some kind of shark joke :-)


BGurfinkel

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Jul 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/3/97
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Did you know that "world wide web" has fewer syllables than
"w-w-w"?
Bob Gurfinkel

Stephen Murgan

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Jul 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/13/97
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On 30 Jun 1997 13:51:56 GMT, m...@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Mark Dobie) wrote:

>It's not a real word so pronounce it how you like, and if somebody
>doesn't understand then just whip it out and show 'em! :-)

I do this all the time. My casr comes up before the judge next
wednesday...

Steve

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