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Bill Gunshannon

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May 16, 2011, 8:30:29 AM5/16/11
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In anticipation of an upcoming move I am cleaning out stuff from my
collection. I do not anticipate ever working with Prime's again as
there is no liklihood of a hobbyist license for the OS or a free
emulator (and real hardware is even rarer). So, what do people think
the interest in old Prime Docs would be? I have a number of books and
even have some of the pocket guides. I may even have a copy of the
text from the "Internals" class that Prime came out to our site to
teach. Should I just throw them up on eBay and see what the market
will bear? Or throw them in the recycling bin?

bill

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Dennis Boone

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May 16, 2011, 8:56:15 PM5/16/11
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> In anticipation of an upcoming move I am cleaning out stuff from my
> collection. I do not anticipate ever working with Prime's again as
> there is no liklihood of a hobbyist license for the OS or a free
> emulator (and real hardware is even rarer). So, what do people think
> the interest in old Prime Docs would be? I have a number of books and
> even have some of the pocket guides. I may even have a copy of the
> text from the "Internals" class that Prime came out to our site to
> teach. Should I just throw them up on eBay and see what the market
> will bear? Or throw them in the recycling bin?

I'd be happy to have them, either by working out a deal, or buying
them off ebay if I have to. One way or the other, don't bin them.

Any chance you have tapes around?

De

Edward Feustel

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May 17, 2011, 6:42:53 AM5/17/11
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On 16 May 2011 12:30:29 GMT, bill...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
wrote:

>In anticipation of an upcoming move I am cleaning out stuff from my
>collection. I do not anticipate ever working with Prime's again as
>there is no liklihood of a hobbyist license for the OS or a free
>emulator (and real hardware is even rarer). So, what do people think
>the interest in old Prime Docs would be? I have a number of books and
>even have some of the pocket guides. I may even have a copy of the
>text from the "Internals" class that Prime came out to our site to
>teach. Should I just throw them up on eBay and see what the market
>will bear? Or throw them in the recycling bin?
>
>bill

Bill,
Why not check with the Computer History Museum?
I have donated a bunch of my Prime stuff to them.
I'd bet that there would be interest especially in
any Version 24 OS stuff or things like Oracle or
the Business Language (I don't remember its
name at the moment). Stuff about EPFs or
other special software or the Ring Network,
etc. would also be useful.

Ditto all the special systems that Prime rebranded
and sold or the Unix systems they built and vended.
Best Regards,
Ed Feustel

Bill Gunshannon

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May 17, 2011, 8:33:43 AM5/17/11
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Well, there seems to be limited interest. I will take a week or two
(maybe longer as I don't even have a free weekend until late in June)
and dig up all I have and make up a list. I hate to sound mercinary
but I need to start selling, rather than giving away, some of my stuff
as it is getting harder and harder to support my classic computer
habit. But, I will come back here first as I eBay is my second to
last resort (last is the skip!!) Sadly, I expect unless all this
stuff goes to one place, I expect the postage will exceed the actualy
price I am likely to get for any of it. And even as one big bundle it
is likely to be costly. :-(

Someone asked about tapes, sorry, I passed all of them on to someone
who actually could use them back when I got rid of my last Prime
System. And no hardware, just docs left over from when I maintained
the OSes on a bunch of 850's at West Point almost 30 years ago.

Mike Causer

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May 17, 2011, 5:18:28 PM5/17/11
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 06:42:53 -0400
Edward Feustel <efeu...@hughes.net> wrote:

> Ditto all the special systems that Prime rebranded
> and sold or the Unix systems they built and vended.

"RiscOS" on the MIPS hardware? I had to check out our CADCAM packages
on them (we were owned by Prime), but they were not a patch on the
contemporary Sun systems for usability, performance or documentation :-)

I only have Sun manuals from that era, sorry.


Mike

Bill Gunshannon

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Jul 3, 2011, 12:55:34 PM7/3/11
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In article <93f897...@mid.individual.net>,

bill...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>
> Well, there seems to be limited interest. I will take a week or two
> (maybe longer as I don't even have a free weekend until late in June)
> and dig up all I have and make up a list.

OK, sorry it took so long but here is a first run. I am sure I have
more but I may not even find them until after I move (again) and get
to unpack all my boxes of books.

http://www.cs.uofs.edu/~billg999/Prime

Nothing there but picture. I assume people here will recognize them.
>
Postage will likely start around $5 (USPS flat rate envelope) and,
obviously, bundling will keep the cost down. Any offers?

Daiyu Hurst

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Aug 1, 2011, 2:45:29 PM8/1/11
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Bill,

I'd be interested in the Rev 19 Internals manual, if not already gone.
Fundsalo but let me know what you'd need for it.

Regards,
-daiyu hurst (f/k/a doug quebbeman)

On Jul 3, 12:55 pm, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
> In article <93f897Ft2...@mid.individual.net>,


>         billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>
>
>
> > Well, there seems to be limited interest.  I will take a week or two
> > (maybe longer as I don't even have a free weekend until late in June)
> > and dig up all I have and make up a list.  
>
> OK, sorry it took so long but here is a first run.  I am sure I have
> more but I may not even find them until after I move (again) and get
> to unpack all my boxes of books.
>
> http://www.cs.uofs.edu/~billg999/Prime
>
> Nothing there but picture.  I assume people here will recognize them.
>
> Postage will likely start around $5 (USPS flat rate envelope) and,
> obviously, bundling will keep the cost down.  Any offers?
>
> bill
>
> --
> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves

> billg...@cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Bill Gunshannon

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Aug 1, 2011, 2:53:33 PM8/1/11
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In article <90d2b7e8-3013-47d1...@b34g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,

Daiyu Hurst <daiyu...@gmail.com> writes:
> Bill,
> I'd be interested in the Rev 19 Internals manual, if not already gone.
> Fundsalo but let me know what you'd need for it.

All of it is gone.

bill

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Dennis Boone

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Aug 1, 2011, 8:18:19 PM8/1/11
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> > I'd be interested in the Rev 19 Internals manual, if not already gone.
> > Fundsalo but let me know what you'd need for it.

> All of it is gone.

...to me. I'll scan it shortly and let you know. BTW I scanned my
19.4 internals class book, and it's available at:

http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/prime_manuals/ce0810.pdf

if it's of interest.

De

Bill Gunshannon

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Aug 2, 2011, 8:06:26 AM8/2/11
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In article <EqudnavADM3W36rT...@giganews.com>,

As long as you are scanning them, you might consider getting in touch
with Al Kossow about putting copies on bitsavers.

If I have time next weekend I will try to go thru the boxes I packed
in the attic and see if I can find the rest of the manuals I saved.

Dennis Boone

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Aug 2, 2011, 12:00:10 PM8/2/11
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> As long as you are scanning them, you might consider getting in touch
> with Al Kossow about putting copies on bitsavers.

Yup, I always let him know when I scan stuff and put it online. A
few of the Prime things on bitsavers are my scans.

> If I have time next weekend I will try to go thru the boxes I packed
> in the attic and see if I can find the rest of the manuals I saved.

If you happen to find the ones I misplaced years ago, let me know? :)

De

Edward Feustel

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Aug 3, 2011, 11:18:58 AM8/3/11
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I sent most of my later manuals to the Computer History Museum.
Since Al is a docent there, he ought to be able to put them on-line.
Ed Feustel

Dennis Boone

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Aug 6, 2011, 5:30:35 PM8/6/11
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¿Alguien está aqui de España?

Me interesa conocer los éxitos Españoles de Prime. Existen documentos
de Prime en Español? ...

De

Cydrome Leader

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Aug 7, 2011, 12:55:41 AM8/7/11
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These old typewritter manuals are great.

They'll be no trace of the obscured junk hidden inside the new
support.oracle.com site in 25 years.

Dennis Boone

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Aug 7, 2011, 1:41:24 AM8/7/11
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> "RiscOS" on the MIPS hardware? I had to check out our CADCAM packages
> on them (we were owned by Prime), but they were not a patch on the
> contemporary Sun systems for usability, performance or documentation :-)

"We"?

De

Mike Causer

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Aug 7, 2011, 2:34:23 PM8/7/11
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Business started as Cambridge Interactive Systems, main product the
Medusa CAD/CAM system. Absorbed into ComputerVision in 1983, and
therefore part of Prime from 1988.


Mike

Dennis Boone

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Aug 7, 2011, 2:58:29 PM8/7/11
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> > > I'd be interested in the Rev 19 Internals manual, if not already gone.
> > > Fundsalo but let me know what you'd need for it.

I've scanned a copy of the PRIMOS Internals 19.1 class textbook, in
the usual 400dpi G4 format. It's available as a PDF file, or as a
ZIP file containing the loose TIFF images and the control files I used
to assemble it:

http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/prime_manuals/internals_191.pdf
http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/prime_manuals/internals_191.zip

Cheers,

De

Bill Gunshannon

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Aug 7, 2011, 3:10:26 PM8/7/11
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In article <20110807193423.36265872@surya>,

When you first said CADCAM and "owned by Prime" MEDUSA came immediately
to mind.

Dennis Boone

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Aug 12, 2011, 12:39:52 AM8/12/11
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Folks,

It's not one I got from Bill, and I'm following up to my own posting,
but as long as we have a recent doc topic...

I've scanned a copy of the Prime RPG II Programmer's Guide, PDR3031 of
1979, in the usual 400dpi G4 format. It's available as a PDF file,


or as a ZIP file containing the loose TIFF images and the control
files I used to assemble it:

http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/prime_manuals/pdr3031_rpgii.pdf
http://yagi.h-net.msu.edu/prime_manuals/pdr3031_rpgii.zip

Cheers,

De

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