Does USB connector also recharge the PDA?
Mxsmanic
it recharged exclusively by the power adapter connection?
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DevilsPGD
<mxsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Does the USB connector to my Tungsten E also recharge the PDA, or is
>it recharged exclusively by the power adapter connection?
Off hand, the USB connector trickle charges the Palm -- In other words,
yes, it charges, but not a fast as the power connector.
That's definitely the case with the TE2.
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> In message <08vpi11p7v78vmehq...@4ax.com> Mxsmanic
> <mxsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Does the USB connector to my Tungsten E also recharge the PDA, or is
>>it recharged exclusively by the power adapter connection?
>
>
> Off hand, the USB connector trickle charges the Palm -- In other words,
> yes, it charges, but not a fast as the power connector.
>
> That's definitely the case with the TE2.
>
use the universal connector don't charge over the USB cable/cradle
supplied by Palm, but 3rd party cables are available that will.
I've never been able to understand why Palm introduced this limitation -
iPods are the same - the USB cable doesn't charge the device either.
DevilsPGD
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TE2 does use the universal connector -- Although it has separate "data"
and "power" it does seem to trickle charge. However, it does not
indicate it's charging, but the battery indicator slowly rises if the
Palm is left off.
When the Palm is on and active (HotSyncing in a loop, BlueTooth, etc) it
stays stable for hours, so the power being provided doesn't appear to be
enough to run the Palm and to charge, but at least the battery doesn't
get used up this way.
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>>DevilsPGD wrote:
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>>>In message <08vpi11p7v78vmehq...@4ax.com> Mxsmanic
>>><mxsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>Does the USB connector to my Tungsten E also recharge the PDA, or is
>>>>it recharged exclusively by the power adapter connection?
>>>
>>>
>>>Off hand, the USB connector trickle charges the Palm -- In other words,
>>>yes, it charges, but not a fast as the power connector.
>>>
>>>That's definitely the case with the TE2.
>>>
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>>I think the TE2 doesn't use the universal connector; AFAIK devices that
>>use the universal connector don't charge over the USB cable/cradle
>>supplied by Palm, but 3rd party cables are available that will.
>>
>>I've never been able to understand why Palm introduced this limitation -
>>iPods are the same - the USB cable doesn't charge the device either.
>
>
> TE2 does use the universal connector -- Although it has separate "data"
> and "power" it does seem to trickle charge. However, it does not
> indicate it's charging, but the battery indicator slowly rises if the
> Palm is left off.
My mistake, I have a T3 and it definitely doesn't charge over the cable
- hopefully Palm changed their policy for later Palms.
Roy Schestowitz
I think you are right. I was told that the Palm (context was Tungsten E if I
recall correctly) should be charged when connected via USB, but this does
not appear to be the case with my Tungsten T. It uses a Universal
connector, which may or may not make the difference.
The issue was discussed in the Palm-related newsgroups several times in the
past year. Try searching UseNet for more details and answers.
Roy
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> Does the USB connector to my Tungsten E also recharge the PDA, or is
> it recharged exclusively by the power adapter connection?
mine charges via USB, but much more slowly than on the PSU connection
you dont see any indication of the charging when it is going on via the
power indicator.
FWIW i think that there may be some cables / USB setups that dont provide
the power, but i havent seen that in practice.
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power connector. Also, it doesn't show as 'charging' on the battery
indicator graphic.
Steve
DevilsPGD
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>My mistake, I have a T3 and it definitely doesn't charge over the cable
>- hopefully Palm changed their policy for later Palms.
I just chatted with a friend and he claims his does -- However, it
charges very slowly and does NOT show a charging icon.
In fact, the only way you can tell it's charging at all is due to the
fact that if you leave it off for an hour or three the battery indicator
has gone up.
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but very slowly, via the USB connection with no charging indicator.
But I just bought a cable from JavoEdge
(http://www.javoedge.com/simtrix/productMtce/jsp/productListSyncCable_Palm.jsp)
that has a USB connection to the PC at one end and separate USB and
power connectors at the other. It charges the Zire 31 at what seems to
be the normal rate you get with an AC adaptor.
As I understand the USB rules, a device isn't supposed to take more than
something like 100 mA unless it tells the PC it wants more. And all the
USB ports together supply only 500 mA, which is what the Palm needs. So
maybe Palm is just playing by the book by limiting the current it takes
via the USB port. But the JavoEdge cable sure beats hauling the big wall
wart, and I'll be happy to unplug other USB devices while charging the
PDA. I also plan on using it for international travel, where the wall
wart won't work at all without an additional transformer.
Roy Lewallen
DevilsPGD
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Agreed that they're likely trying to stay within specs. However, if it
would be nice if Palm could see fit to show the "Charging" indicator (or
possibly a separate "USB Charging" vs "DC Charging" indicator)
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> I also plan on using it for international travel, where the wall
> wart won't work at all without an additional transformer.
Which is all very silly. The one that came with my Vx was
auto-voltage, and came with adaptors for every country under the sun.
DevilsPGD
robert...@my-deja.com wrote:
Sure, but that costs more. Since only a small percentage of users will
take advantage of this, it's something they can drop without most users
noticing or caring.
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How much more? Almost every computer or PDA adapter I see
works on 100 - 240 volts, even very inexpensive ones. I do
wonder about any company that currently provides a 120-volt
only adapter with a computer of PDA,
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DevilsPGD
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Even if it's only pennies, when a company is penny pinching to begin
with, any feature they can drop that saves them a few pennies will still
add up to thousands or millions of dollars of profit.
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Christopher Browne
> <x...@lighting-research.com> wrote:
>>How much more? Almost every computer or PDA adapter I see works on
>>100 - 240 volts, even very inexpensive ones. I do wonder about any
>>company that currently provides a 120-volt only adapter with a
>>computer of PDA,
>
> Even if it's only pennies, when a company is penny pinching to begin
> with, any feature they can drop that saves them a few pennies will
> still add up to thousands or millions of dollars of profit.
It's _not_ a savings if it means they have to get another production
line running in order to sell product into Europe and Asia.
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Browne <cbbr...@acm.org> wrote:
>> In message <rkh6j19uehh2vqong...@4ax.com> Victor Roberts
>> <x...@lighting-research.com> wrote:
>>>How much more? Almost every computer or PDA adapter I see works on
>>>100 - 240 volts, even very inexpensive ones. I do wonder about any
>>>company that currently provides a 120-volt only adapter with a
>>>computer of PDA,
>>
>> Even if it's only pennies, when a company is penny pinching to begin
>> with, any feature they can drop that saves them a few pennies will
>> still add up to thousands or millions of dollars of profit.
>
>It's _not_ a savings if it means they have to get another production
>line running in order to sell product into Europe and Asia.
That may or may not be the case, it might be that they can source the
parts sufficiently cheap enough that it's worth maintaining separate
production lines.
I have to assume that if Palm is doing it, it's because it saves them
money.
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