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ki...@utkvx.utk.edu

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May 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/27/95
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Has anybody tried the infrared port of the HP5 printers? Will it work with a
200lx? My hunch is yes, but before I order one, I wanted to make sure.

Sylvan Butler

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May 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/29/95
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ki...@utkvx.utk.edu wrote:
>Has anybody tried the infrared port of the HP5 printers? Will it work with a
>200lx? My hunch is yes, but before I order one, I wanted to make sure.

No. The LaserJet 5{m}p printers use the IrDA protocols. Those protocols
are not present in the 200lx (or 100 or 95).

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Chris Osborn

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May 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/30/95
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In article <D9Bnq...@boi.hp.com>, Sylvan Butler <sbu...@boi.hp.com> wrote:

>ki...@utkvx.utk.edu wrote:
>No. The LaserJet 5{m}p printers use the IrDA protocols. Those protocols
>are not present in the 200lx (or 100 or 95).

What devices out there (besides the LaserJet 5 printers) *do* use
IrDA? Does the HP48? Does the Newton? The Zoomer?

Are there any devices that can connect to the serial port of a
computer that do IrDA?

I thought that the IrDA standard was supposed to be compatible with
HP's existing devices that are using infrared.

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Sylvan Butler

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May 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/30/95
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Chris Osborn (fozz...@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote:
>In article <D9Bnq...@boi.hp.com>, Sylvan Butler <sbu...@boi.hp.com> wrote:
>>ki...@utkvx.utk.edu wrote:
>>No. The LaserJet 5{m}p printers use the IrDA protocols. Those protocols
>>are not present in the 200lx (or 100 or 95).

>What devices out there (besides the LaserJet 5 printers) *do* use

I don't know what products are announced that use IrDA protocols.
The best bet would be to check recently introduced products to see
if they support IrDA. I imagine some will be introduced which don't
as the standards are so new.

>IrDA? Does the HP48? Does the Newton? The Zoomer?

No. You must remember that IrDA is just releasing their standards.
Some came out late last year (it seems) and others just this year.
Almost every major player in the market participated and is currently
participating in IrDA. All have announced their intention to support
these standards. It is just a matter of time.

>I thought that the IrDA standard was supposed to be compatible with
>HP's existing devices that are using infrared.

Nope. For some reason neither apple, nor sharp, nor IBM nor ... was
willing to let HP do that. :) Actually, the IrDA protocols are much
more robust than the lack of protocol used on the palmtops and the
48 family.

Peter Teichman

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May 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/30/95
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fozz...@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) wrote:
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>What devices out there (besides the LaserJet 5 printers) *do* use
>IrDA? Does the HP48? Does the Newton? The Zoomer?
>
>Are there any devices that can connect to the serial port of a
>computer that do IrDA?
>
>I thought that the IrDA standard was supposed to be compatible with
>HP's existing devices that are using infrared.

I don't know about the hp48 (could be IrDA), but I believe that all of
the HP Omnibooks use IrDA. The product rewiew of the LaserJet 5's in the
most recent PC Magazine said something about being able to use it with
Omnibooks. Educalc sells an infrared device (serial interface to
computers) that gives it infrared capabilities. I would guess that this
could be used to transfer files to/from an hp48, or to the LaserJet.

If anyone has any experience with the JetEye (this device), please tell
me. I'm interested in seeing if it works... :)

Pete

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Greg Singewald

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May 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/30/95
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In article <3qfuhl$b...@lucy.infi.net>,
Peter Teichman <teic...@nr.infi.net> wrote:

>fozz...@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) wrote:
>If anyone has any experience with the JetEye (this device), please tell
>me. I'm interested in seeing if it works... :)
>
I ordered one of the JetEye devices to connect my Desktop and HP200lx. JetEye
makes two model the JetEye 9610 (non-IrDA compatable) and the 9680 (IrDA
compatable). The 9610 works with the HP connectivity pack and the HP but not
with the Intellink software. Intellink says you must use the 9680 device. HP
says the 9680 device will not communicate with the HP200lx because it is not
IrDA compatable. I sent the JetEye back and just use the serial cable.


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Julian Lewis-Booth

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May 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/31/95
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Does anyone ahve any pointers on the net to IrDA info resources ?

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Steve Messinger

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May 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/31/95
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Julian Lewis-Booth (gbcc...@ibmmail.com) wrote:
: Does anyone ahve any pointers on the net to IrDA info resources ?

I don't know any net resources, but (from an article in Electronic
Component News):
"The IrDA Specification can be obtained from the Infrared Data
Association located at P.O. Box 3883, Walnut Creek, California,
94598 (Phone: 510-943-6546 Fax: 510-934-5241)."

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Jeff Gruszynski

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May 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/31/95
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Julian Lewis-Booth (gbcc...@ibmmail.com) wrote:
> Does anyone ahve any pointers on the net to IrDA info resources ?

30 MAR 95 issue of EDN:

"Ease File Transfers With IrDA-Protocol Wireless Infrared", by Bill Travis


17 APR 95 issue of ELECTRONIC DESIGN

"Infrared Data Transmission: The Missing Link?", by Lee Goldberg

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Stephen Fleming

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May 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/31/95
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In article <3qfuhl$b...@lucy.infi.net> Peter Teichman, teic...@nr.infi.net
writes:

>If anyone has any experience with the JetEye (this device), please tell
>me. I'm interested in seeing if it works... :)

I bought a JetEye 9510A a few weeks ago (when I discovered that the
infrared port on my new LaserJet 5MP was basically window dressing).

The JetEye does what it's supposed to do. Aim the side of the HP-200LX
at it, hit Print, and wait a second. The built-in apps seem to limit
themselves to Courier, but even the sideways monthly calendars are quite
legible.

Quibble: I wish that there were a visible signal on the JetEye box that
you're actually transmitting something -- a green LED that blinks when it
sees data or something (like the lights on a modem).

NOTE: If you want to use it on the LJ-5 series, you'll have a minor
problem with the cable. The JetEye parallel cable has a humonguous
Centronics connector that won't fit inside the LJ-5's case. So you have
to go buy an extender cable and a gender changer at your local computer
store. String it all together, and it works fine, but it adds $20 to
what I think is already a very pricey toy ($115).

Stephen Fleming
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Steve Mann

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Jun 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/1/95
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> >What devices out there (besides the LaserJet 5 printers) *do* use

The Sharp Zaurus supports the IrDA protocols.

Steve Mann
PDA Developers magazine

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Steve Mann

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Jun 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/2/95
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In article <gbccljlb-310...@146.105.1.8>, gbcc...@ibmmail.com
(Julian Lewis-Booth) wrote:

> Does anyone ahve any pointers on the net to IrDA info resources ?

Julian:

IrDA doesn't have a web page or ftp site. You can contact the organization
at jlar...@netcom.com, or 510.943.6546 and find out what they offer.
Basically memberships and specs for sale I believe.

We published a summary of the IrDa protocols in the Nov/Dec issue of PDA
Developers magazine. Back issues are available for $10 plus shipping and
handling.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Steve Mann

Judson Hofmann

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Jun 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/6/95
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In article 31059510...@146.105.1.8, gbcc...@ibmmail.com (Julian Lewis-Booth) writes:
>Does anyone ahve any pointers on the net to IrDA info resources ?

John LaRoche is the Executive Director of the Infrared Data Association:

jlar...@netcom.com

I vaguely remember someone telling me he is out of the country now, though.
It may be some time before he can get back to you.

Jud


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