Tungsten E Hotsynch Cable Supplier?

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Ross

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Oct 12, 2003, 4:44:24 PM10/12/03
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I need a second hotsynch USB cable for my TE. Even Palm doesn't have them.
Any ideas where I can get one? Somebody does since they come with a new Palm
TE.


MJM

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Oct 12, 2003, 4:54:45 PM10/12/03
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It is a standard USB A to B cable. Should be able to get one in any
highstreet PC store.

MJM
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Stan Gosnell

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Oct 12, 2003, 5:12:36 PM10/12/03
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"MJM" <M...@home.com> wrote in news:bmcf89$hgo$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:

> It is a standard USB A to B cable. Should be able to get one in any
> highstreet PC store.

WalMart, Best Buy, Fry's, etc, etc.

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Charles Hawtrey

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Oct 12, 2003, 9:53:05 PM10/12/03
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"MJM" <M...@home.com> staggered to the nearest keyboard and wrote:

>It is a standard USB A to B cable. Should be able to get one in any
>highstreet PC store.

It may be an A to mini-B cable (still haven't verified yet), but it's
most definitely not a regular A to B cable. The B connector is much
too large to fit the T|E.


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Ross

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Oct 13, 2003, 6:35:47 PM10/13/03
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Correct. It is NOT a regular USB A to B. I'm using that on my scanner.

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Christopher

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Oct 13, 2003, 9:47:16 PM10/13/03
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The Tungsten E uses an A to mini-B USB cable. I should know, I work in
an electronics store which carries them.

Let me make it clear to this newsgroup that this USB wire is NOT
proprietary. I've read some posts in which people were saying Palm
changed the cord....what bullshit. It is standard wire people.

Nobody

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Oct 14, 2003, 7:51:58 AM10/14/03
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Does the Tungsten E charge through this cable when it's connected to the
computer?

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Ross

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Oct 14, 2003, 8:05:34 PM10/14/03
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Thanks,
I'll look for one though I have already hit the "big box" chain stores
locally and Palm already. Thank goodness for internet newsgroups and the
internet.


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Ross

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Oct 14, 2003, 9:06:05 PM10/14/03
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This may be the one.

RadioShack
USB TO 4-PIN MINI USB

$16.99
Catalog #: 26-195


Derek

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Oct 14, 2003, 9:12:41 PM10/14/03
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On 14 Oct 2003, Nobody posted the following to
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> Does the Tungsten E charge through this cable when it's
> connected to the computer?

No. The T|E has a separate power cable.

Derek

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Oct 14, 2003, 9:30:45 PM10/14/03
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"Derek" <ne...@gwinn.us> wrote in message
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> On 14 Oct 2003, Nobody posted the following to
> comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:
>
> > Does the Tungsten E charge through this cable when it's
> > connected to the computer?
>
> No. The T|E has a separate power cable.
>
> Derek
>
> --
>

But the T|E does trickle charge with the Palm-supplied hotsynch cable
(suppose it would with a replacement but don't know for sure).

Jenn

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Derek

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Oct 14, 2003, 9:52:40 PM10/14/03
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On 14 Oct 2003, ModernMiko posted the following to
comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:

> "Derek" <ne...@gwinn.us> wrote in message
> news:Xns9414CD95...@130.133.1.4...
>> On 14 Oct 2003, Nobody posted the following to
>> comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:
>>
>> > Does the Tungsten E charge through this cable when it's
>> > connected to the computer?
>>
>> No. The T|E has a separate power cable.
>

> But the T|E does trickle charge with the Palm-supplied hotsynch
> cable (suppose it would with a replacement but don't know for
> sure).

It does? I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere. Everything on the
Palm site that I've seen about recharging the T|E points to the AC
adapter.

Must have missed something somewhere or not read the same reviews.

B Schmidt

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Oct 14, 2003, 10:07:41 PM10/14/03
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In article <Xns9414D45C...@130.133.1.4>, Derek <ne...@gwinn.us>
wrote:

> On 14 Oct 2003, ModernMiko posted the following to
> comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:
>
> > "Derek" <ne...@gwinn.us> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9414CD95...@130.133.1.4...
> >> On 14 Oct 2003, Nobody posted the following to
> >> comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:
> >>
> >> > Does the Tungsten E charge through this cable when it's
> >> > connected to the computer?
> >>
> >> No. The T|E has a separate power cable.
> >
> > But the T|E does trickle charge with the Palm-supplied hotsynch
> > cable (suppose it would with a replacement but don't know for
> > sure).
>
> It does? I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere. Everything on the
> Palm site that I've seen about recharging the T|E points to the AC
> adapter.
>
> Must have missed something somewhere or not read the same reviews.
>
> Derek

I don't think it's advertised, so I doubt you missed anything. But my
Tungsten T, plugged into my TiBook all day, will fully recharge. Of
course if I'm in a hurry, it's much faster to use the T|E charger.

...bt_schmidt

PS. The T|E's USB cable is a standard USB cable: don't know the proper
name: A to mini-B? Anyhow I used the USB cable that came with my Lexar
memory card reader with my T|E and had no problems syncing (or trickle
charging) the T|E.

Aaron Lake

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Oct 15, 2003, 12:28:47 AM10/15/03
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Derek <ne...@gwinn.us> wrote:
>It does? I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere. Everything on the
>Palm site that I've seen about recharging the T|E points to the AC
>adapter.

It does. I ran my TE for 4 hours the other night while installing stuff with
*only* the sync cable plugged in. It never came off full a full %100 charge.
Course I was running it off a 500ma rated USB hub. I think a standard USB port
is only rated at 100ma so it may not charge as fast using only a laptop. But it
definitely does charge...

ModernMiko

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Oct 15, 2003, 6:37:53 AM10/15/03
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"Derek" <ne...@gwinn.us> wrote in message
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> On 14 Oct 2003, ModernMiko posted the following to
> comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:
>
> > "Derek" <ne...@gwinn.us> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9414CD95...@130.133.1.4...
> >> On 14 Oct 2003, Nobody posted the following to
> >> comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:
> >>
> >> > Does the Tungsten E charge through this cable when it's
> >> > connected to the computer?
> >>
> >> No. The T|E has a separate power cable.
> >
> > But the T|E does trickle charge with the Palm-supplied hotsynch
> > cable (suppose it would with a replacement but don't know for
> > sure).
>
> It does? I hadn't seen that mentioned anywhere. Everything on the
> Palm site that I've seen about recharging the T|E points to the AC
> adapter.
>
> Must have missed something somewhere or not read the same reviews.
>
> Derek
>

1) I've done it so I know it does work (but slowly)
2) It said it somewhere in the packaging (the quick start fold-up sheet I
believe)

John Faughnan

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Oct 18, 2003, 10:45:15 PM10/18/03
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As others have mentioned, the Tungsten E, rather shockingly, uses a
standard USB cable and charges through it (the latter is not well
documented). My wife's CLIE used the same 5 pin Mini-B cable, but that
CLIE used AA batteries and I suspect the cable will not charge a T|E.
I believe the standard cable will charge. These cables are used in
cameras and cell phones. There's even a chance that you could use one
cable for your TE, Cell phone, and camera!

It's a USBA/Mini B Device: USBA to Mini B 2.0. THE CATCH IS THAT IT'S
A 5 PIN MINI-B, NOT A 4 PIN MINI-B. (They should have named them
differently, they're both called MINI-B. Stupid.)

See these pictures:
4 pin: http://www.keyspan.com/products/cables/K-ZIP-USB-C03/prodshots/mini4.jpg
5 pin: http://www.keyspan.com/products/cables/K-ZIP-USB-C05/prodshots/mini5.jpg

There's some technical discussion here:
http://www.cqpub.co.jp/dwm/article_english/dwm053/OTG_04_body.htm

If you get the wrong one you're out of luck! This vendor, however,
sells a kit, one cable with multple adapters!
http://www.goldxproducts.com/cable/qus.htm

This type of connector is quite popular with digital cameras. A
froogle.com and pricescan.com search found several suppliers. You can
get 6' and 10' cables for $4 to $20 each, better known vendors
(computers4sure, etc) charge about $7 to $8.

What I REALLY want is a 3' cable that's bright orange -- so I can find
the #$!# thing amongst all my gear. I didn't find bright orange (I'll
look into coloring it myself :-), but I found some shorter cables
including one well designed for traveling.

The Keyspan ZIP-LINQ, expands to 30"
http://www.keyspan.com/products/cables/K-ZIP-USB-C05/

At www.thenerds.net it's hard to find the 5 pin version; it's $9.01:
http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?d=1&pn=920046&s=0

Don't get the 4 pin version, that's easy to find.

Alternatively, you can get a plain shorter 3' cable made by Cables To
Go:

3ft USBA/Mini B Device 5-pin f/Cell Phone PDA Dig Cam MP3 Player
Manufacturer: Cables To Go
Part Number: 27329
Lowest Price: $ 5.67
Description: The future of computer connectivity is here with mini-USB
cables from Cables To Go. These fully rated universal serial bus
cables provide transfer rates up to 480Mbps, depending on USB version,
and easily attach to any mini-USB device. Mini USB cable...
http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?un=157189&s=1 $6

Since I sync in several places, and since these cables are cheap, I
ordered a few.

john
jfau...@spamcop.net

meta: jfaughnan, jgfaughnan, PalmOS, CLIE, sync cable, USB, connector,
mini-B, types, hardware

PS. The above information wasn't super easy to find! So read carefully
:-).

John Faughnan

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Oct 23, 2003, 10:22:59 PM10/23/03
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Followup up to a prior posting [1]
Former title: Tungsten E Hotsynch Cable Supplier?

In a prior posting [1] I described the cable used by the Tungsten E
(USB Mini-B 5 pin) and listed a few suppliers of travel cables. Since
then I've received the ZIP-LINQ retractable cable I ordered [2].

This cable appears to work quite well with the TE. It's VERY compact,
smaller than I'd imagined. I think it should be treated with some care
and delicacy, but it should make a great travel companion. Now that
I've got it, I wish I'd ordered two or three of them.

I did order two more conventional 3 foot mini-B cables [3] from the
same vendor, but the others have not yet arrived. Since I will soon
have FIVE TE sync cables I've probably got enough. I got all five for
the less than the cost of a Palm Universal sync cable. There's also
the prospect of traveling with one cable for cell phone, Palm, and
camera (though my G2 and s230 sadly use a different USB cable, I
intend that my next phone use a mini-B sync cable).

john

[1] http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5c0dbfb4.0310181845.2c22399%40posting.google.com

[2] The Keyspan ZIP-LINQ, expands to 30"
http://www.keyspan.com/products/cables/K-ZIP-USB-C05/
http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?d=1&pn=920046&s=0
$9, 5-pin NOT 4-pin.

[3] 3ft USBA/Mini B Device 5-pin f/Cell Phone PDA Dig Cam MP3 Player


> Manufacturer: Cables To Go
> Part Number: 27329

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