We've found Oric's ULA!!!!
Brian Noonan
vast quantities in France.
Fabrice has been in contact with the supplier and has confirmed that
these are the genuine article, and are the remaining chips from the
final production run.
However, the supplier is only willing to deal with businesses and
other suppliers. I, Mike and Fabrice, therefore, appeal to any
Oricians who may own a business, and would like to acquire some ULAs
for onward sale to users who need them or want to hold a stock for
repair. Anyone who is interested can contact myself and I will issue
them with the contact details of the supplier.
Obviously it would be easier for a French resident to carry out such a
task, but equally a non-French person fluent in French could do it.
Brian
Email: brian(at)bnoonan.freeserve.co.uk
Steve Marshall
"Brian Noonan" <bno...@riach.co.uk> wrote
> However, the supplier is only willing to deal with businesses and
> other suppliers. I, Mike and Fabrice, therefore, appeal to any
> Oricians who may own a business, and would like to acquire some ULAs
> for onward sale to users who need them or want to hold a stock for
> repair. Anyone who is interested can contact myself and I will issue
> them with the contact details of the supplier.
>
> Obviously it would be easier for a French resident to carry out such a
> task, but equally a non-French person fluent in French could do it.
Gosh !
I have my own business. Does it have to be a shop though ? Some only supply
businesses with a shop front.
What's the minimal order ?
Steve M
Euphoric
faillite.
Mais le stockiste ne veut vendre qu'à des sociétés ou à des distributeurs.
C'est pourquoi Brian, Mike et moi cherchons un Oricien qui possèderait une
société ou une entreprise, et qui accepterait de faire une commande groupée
pour tous les Oriciens qui souhaitent acheter des ULAs, soit parce qu'ils
ont en besoin pour remettre leurs Orics sur pieds, ou simplement pour se
prémunir de pannes dans les années à venir.
J'ai parlé avec le stockiste, ça serait d'autant plus facile que ce soit un
français qui accepte de faire l'intermédiaire avec lui (il est en France),
alors merci de nous contacter si vous êtes en mesure d'aider la communauté
Oric...
Fabrice
Euphoric
"Steve Marshall" <s...@atmosBlockA.plus.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:AyDcc.27931$h44.3...@stones.force9.net...
> I have my own business. Does it have to be a shop though ? Some only
supply
> businesses with a shop front.
> What's the minimal order ?
The minimum order is as low as 75 ? (Brian first had a contact with an
international distributor who is acting as an intermediary, and the minimum
order was $500. Thanks to his perseverance, the distributor finally gave him
the phone number of the french stockist.)
A single unit costs 8 ?. It might be possible to lower this price if a lot
of ULAs are bought.
Conversely, it might also be possible for any individual to go to a local
distributor and ask him to deal with the stockist. But in this case, the
local distributor can be expected to double the price.
Ideally, we would need someone in France with a business, and at least
someone in UK who would accept to group the orders for all UK people, in
order to lower the postage costs (same for the other countries if enough
orders exist).
Best regards to all,
Fabrice
Euphoric
"Steve Marshall" <s...@atmosBlockA.plus.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:AyDcc.27931$h44.3...@stones.force9.net...
> I have my own business. Does it have to be a shop though ? Some only
supply
> businesses with a shop front.
> What's the minimal order ?
The minimum order is as low as 75 Euros. (Brian first had a contact with an
international distributor who is acting as an intermediary, and the minimum
order was $500. Thanks to his perseverance, the distributor finally gave him
the phone number of the french stockist.)
A single unit costs 8 Euros. It might be possible to lower this price if a
Anders Carlsson
>> The Holy Grail of Oric - the ULA, has been found alive and well
>> in vast quantities in France.
> The minimum order is 75 Euros. [..] A single unit costs 8 Euros.
Out of curiosity, how many is "vast quantities" - 100, 500, 1000
working ULAs or more? Maybe a few people can contribute/"invest"
to get an active Orican to import 100 units once they're found.
--
Anders Carlsson
Brian Noonan
Don't think so, I got the impression that their probably looking for
someone with a registered company and letterheaded paper. You would
need to enquire, if you're interested and if your French is good.
> What's the minimal order ?
Fabrice can confirm, but from memory it is 80 Euros.
Brian
brian(at)bnoonan.freeserve.co.uk
Euphoric
"Anders Carlsson" <anders....@mds.mdh.se> a écrit dans le message de
news:k2gd66k...@legolas.mdh.se...
> Out of curiosity, how many is "vast quantities" - 100, 500, 1000
> working ULAs or more?
apparently, 1670.
> Maybe a few people can contribute/"invest"
> to get an active Orican to import 100 units once they're found.
After discussion with the CEO, it's not much a point to acquire more chips
than we need, since it is very unlikely that a crazy company buy all the
remaining chips...
Also, at 8 euros the chip, it will be very easy to have a small order of ten
chips and thus satisfy the minimum order requirement...
In the other hand, we don't want to annoy every week or month ("hey, I too
would like an ULA") the kind guy who will volunteer for distributing the
chips, even if it turns out to be Steve ;-)
So, as soon as we have found who will deal with the stockist, it will be
time for everyone to say "ok, I would like x chips, I won't have the need
for more than that in the 2 or 3 next years"... Maybe someone will also
accept to buy more chips than he needs, and then offer to sell small
quantities to individuals... Maybe some people who have the skills to repair
Orics, like Mike, will want to have spare chips... All good wills are
welcomed...
Fabrice
Brian Noonan
1670 units
Mike
Brian Noonan <bno...@riach.co.uk> wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, how many is "vast quantities" - 100, 500, 1000
>
>1670 units
Did you ever trace down the other 13 at a.n.other location? :)
Mike.
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Steve Marshall
"Euphoric" <nos...@nospam.net> wrote
> Ideally, we would need someone in France with a business, and at least
> someone in UK who would accept to group the orders for all UK people, in
> order to lower the postage costs (same for the other countries if enough
> orders exist).
Didn't Jim Cuomo run his own business ? I would have thought he'd be willing
to help out .
Steve M
Anders Carlsson
>> Out of curiosity, how many is "vast quantities" - 100, 500, 1000
> apparently, 1670.
Wow. Good for you who need the chips. I guess that if someone found
a hidden Commodore warehouse with thousands of working TED chips,
they would be equally excited in acquiring a supply.
> very unlikely that a crazy company buy all the remaining chips
How likely is it that the current owner disappears or recycles the
remaining chips as they are only taking valuable storage space? Or
is there other uses of this ULA than in Oric computers?
--
Anders Carlsson
Mike
Anders Carlsson <anders....@mds.mdh.se> wrote:
>How likely is it that the current owner disappears or recycles the
>remaining chips as they are only taking valuable storage space? Or
>is there other uses of this ULA than in Oric computers?
The chip is fairly specialised in its job, so it's only really applicable
to Oric and Atmos. I suppose you could use it in a similiar 8-bit designed
homebrew computer, for generating the TV picture and handling memory
refresh ...
Euphoric
"Mike" <m...@posie.local.dom> a écrit dans le message de
news:c544cn$5jf$1...@posie.local.dom...
> The chip is fairly specialised in its job, so it's only really applicable
> to Oric and Atmos. I suppose you could use it in a similiar 8-bit designed
> homebrew computer, for generating the TV picture and handling memory
> refresh ...
It's becoming quite difficult to find chips that generate a TV picture.
Chips like the 6845 CRT aren't manufactured anymore, you can barely find
some chips that generate OSD for TVs, but they aren't targeted to homebrew
computers. So, the Oric ULA could be of interest to those who search an easy
way to have a screen output on their homebrew computer. Unfortunately, it
has limitations: it only runs with DRAM attached (64KB), it uses 2/3 of each
1MHz bus period, and it doesn't support overclocking : I had the hope to run
it at double speed but was only able to run it at +33% (losing screen
synchro of course), it failed to run at +66%.
lezan...@gmail.com
There are still old Video Chips available as well as Sound ICs (PSG)..these can be obtained quite cheaply and there are schematics/datasheets for them (FREE).
ICs like:
V9958 (+D41464 DRAMs)
V6366 ( Enhanced MC6845) used in some CGA/EGA PC Cards
Sn76489 Sound Chip
SAA1099 PSG
AY-3-8910 PSG
You can also put the ULA logic for old Retro Machines onto a CPLD.. The ZX Spectrum's ULA fits into 144 Macrocells (will fit on a EPM7160). Obviously you have to have the VHDL/Verilog code to program it.
Hope this helps.
Olivier
did someone manage to purchase some and is reselling? Or would anyone
want to group-purchase? I can purchase €100 or so from a company in the
UK and spread them out if needs be.
Olivier
Mike
[blast from the past]
>>> However, the supplier is only willing to deal with businesses and
>>> other suppliers. I, Mike and Fabrice, therefore, appeal to any
>>> Oricians who may own a business,
>did someone manage to purchase some and is reselling? Or would anyone
>want to group-purchase? I can purchase €100 or so from a company in the
>UK and spread them out if needs be.
I can personally vouch for item 251350896994 (electron-bg) as I bought
some a while back, they are the real deal, and work in an Oric.
Mike.
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