NextStation vs. NextStation color
Daniel K. Appelquist
it make a big difference? How much support is there for color among
NeXT applications in general? We want answers, damnit! (All we have
on campus here are monochrome next's.)
Dan
Tyler S Gingrich
subjective comments based on a prototype NeXTStation color (running at 20Mhz
instead of the production 25Mhz).
The machine was slower than the monochrome station (probably due to the slower
processor), but NOT as slow as I expected. The performance was very good --
more than fast enough to do REAL work.
Most of the apps I saw (WordPerfect, Diagram, Create(beta), SoftPC) supported
color. The workspace is monochrome with some colored icons & colored window
contents for most apps.
The 4096 (from 16.7 Million) with 4 bits of alpha channel (transparancy)
produced VERY nice ('near photographic') pictures. We saw the 'Puffin',
'Tulips', and 'Van Gogh' (maybe -- I don't know anything about art) -- all
these pictures where clear, crisp, and impressive.
John Karabaic took the 'Puffin' picture, JPEG compressed it to 9% of it's
original size (in about 4 seconds), un-compressed it, and displayed both
versions on the screen side-by-side. Very little difference -- my compliments
to the JPEG folks for an excellent algorithm.
Speed - 8.5 (NS Monochrome = 9)
Color - 8.5 (32 bit color = 10)
Price - 9.0 (Very competitive -- BUT, big color monitors are STILL expensive)
Software - 9.5 (NextStep 2.0 is truly awesome -- but not perfect)
Overall
9.0 - Great value for the money.
Tyler
Chris Petrilli
>color images is much slower than dragging very big windows on a mono-
>chrome station
The thing to remember with the NeXTstation color is that memory is
VERY important. The standard 12Mb configuration is really not enough.
I have had a chance to use a NeXTstation Color with 32Mb of memory,
and it was quite fast, faster than the '030 monochrome running 2.0 in
fact. It wasn't as quick as the '040 monochrome or the NeXTdimension,
but quite quick, and very enjoyable. I would suggest a minimum of
16Mb for monochrome systems, and 24 or 32Mb for the color systems.
Chris
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Heiko W.Rupp
I saw a color-station here at our local dealer - dragging windows with
color images is much slower than dragging very big windows on a mono-
chrome station
Gruesse
-Heiko
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Joseph Chin
faster than the NeXTstation in computation and about the same as NeXTstation
in terms of screen response. The NeXTstation Colour has interleaved
memory which allows it to run at close to 0 wait state whereas other NeXT
systems run with 1 or more wait states. This can account for 10-20%
improvement in performance. I wonder why NeXT doesn't use the interleave
memory scheme in the NeXTstation and the Cube!
:-) Joe
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Eric P. Scott
3-4 times slower than the NeXTstation--which is damn good
considering how much more memory we're talking about.
> Does
>it make a big difference?
If you're happy with the performance of the original 68030 NeXTs,
you'll be happy with the NeXTstation Color.
> How much support is there for color among
>NeXT applications in general?
All NeXTs run the *same* basic software--that means that "color
applications" are _still_ "color applications" even on a
grayscale display. Color is *not* used to convey essential
information so that applications will be usable on all models.
Very few applications "go out of their way" to support color;
that doesn't mean that they don't, it just means that no
exceptional effort is required.
-=EPS=-
Leonard John Schultz
user Eric P. Sc...@toaster.SF writes:
>>Exactly how much slower is the display on the NextStation color?
>
>3-4 times slower than the NeXTstation--which is damn good
>considering how much more memory we're talking about.
Eric,
Where do you see a factor of 3-4 performance degradation in the
ColorStation? I have done much work on both machine and see NO
NOTICABLE DIFFERENCE in speed!!! What exactly are you doing that seems
so slow?
Len
Arun Chandra
the version of awk that comes with it seems to be an older version,
without some of the useful functions that are part of nawk.
Thanks.
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Bob Peirce #305
>does anyone know if nawk exists for the Next?
>
>the version of awk that comes with it seems to be an older version,
>without some of the useful functions that are part of nawk.
I got nawk from the Toolchest and it ported with no problems.
I don't know about the availablility of a binary version.
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Sean Eric Fagan
>In article <1991Apr23....@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ar...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Arun Chandra) writes:
>>does anyone know if nawk exists for the Next?
>>the version of awk that comes with it seems to be an older version,
>>without some of the useful functions that are part of nawk.
>I got nawk from the Toolchest and it ported with no problems.
>I don't know about the availablility of a binary version.
Have you tried GNU awk? It *should* port trivially, although I haven't had
the ability to try it (yet?).
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