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Michael Glenn

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Sep 25, 1992, 8:12:35 PM9/25/92
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I've been told by several people that it is possible to use an apple
cd-rom drive to read the 3.0 disk. I've tried, and get nowhere. From
within the "disk" utility, I get the following:

disk name: SONY CD-ROM CDU-8002
WARNING: device sector size (2048)incompatable with DEV_BSIZE 1024
disk type: removable_rw_scsi

Well, it isn't a rw device, so it already goofed up. Do I need a disktab
entry to handle the drive? And if so, what should it be?

Whenever I insert the cd, it says "External disk is unreadable, ignore or
initialize?"

I *hate* it when people say "it just works". For me, it never does. :(

fer...@fermat.dartmouth.edu (NeXTmail welcome)

Paul S. Sears

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Sep 28, 1992, 12:39:44 PM9/28/92
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In article <1992Sep26....@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
fer...@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn) writes:
=>
=>I've been told by several people that it is possible to use an apple
=>cd-rom drive to read the 3.0 disk. I've tried, and get nowhere. From
=>within the "disk" utility, I get the following:
=>
=>disk name: SONY CD-ROM CDU-8002
=>WARNING: device sector size (2048)incompatable with DEV_BSIZE 1024
=>disk type: removable_rw_scsi
=>

This will happen if you are trying to read the 3.0 disk on a 2.xx system. You
cannot read the disk on an unmodified 2.xx system regardless of the cd-rom
drive (hardware is irrelevant). period. Use the upgradeprep.app on the
floppy to upgrade your kernel to handle 2K sectors...

=>Well, it isn't a rw device, so it already goofed up. Do I need a disktab
=>entry to handle the drive? And if so, what should it be?
=>

It is as far as 2.xxx is concerned. It doesn't know anything about the NeXT's
4.3 bsd fast filesytem like binary 3.0 CD (whew, what a mouthfull!)...

=>Whenever I insert the cd, it says "External disk is unreadable, ignore or
=>initialize?"
=>
=>I *hate* it when people say "it just works". For me, it never does. :(
=>

"It just works" if you are reading the disk on a 3.0 system.

=>fer...@fermat.dartmouth.edu (NeXTmail welcome)

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Sep 28, 1992, 4:27:04 PM9/28/92
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I got this from my Apple SC CD-ROM drive

stout# disk -s /dev/rsd1a
NOTE: This device's block size (2048) is too big to coerce to DEV_BSIZE (1024).
You won't be able to use it with software versions earlier than Release 3.0.


disk name: SONY CD-ROM CDU-8002

disk type: removable_rw_scsi
stats: invalid request for type removable_rw_scsi

So indeed it is a rw scsi device (NOT)... I wouldn't mind knowing
what the deal is... Seems like your drive and mine are similiar. Is
yours a 541-22 (or something like that) mechanism...? I hate to say
this, but mines works and works well...

Bill Williams

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Sep 29, 1992, 2:33:51 AM9/29/92
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If you just want to temporarily (until SCSI bus reset, or powerdown) alter
the Sony 8002 CD-ROM device to enter a 512 or 1024 byte logical byte block
transfer mode you could do it via a simple program utilizing the generic
SCSI driver. The program would merely have to do a mode sense command "1A"
with 0 pages selected and then alter the bytes in near location 8 of the
returned data from a value of 800h to 200h. This data is then rewritten
using the SCSI command MODE SELECT (15h). At this point, assuming a CD-ROM
medium was inserted the device is fully addressable as a 512 byte device
(useful for some purposes, such as Mac HFS)

This is merley conjecture, since I haven't done this on a NeXT before, but
have done it on other computers.

Bill Williams

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