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Gary Wolfe

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Apr 14, 2002, 12:47:27 AM4/14/02
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Greetings,

I have just recently acquired a turbo '040 board for my NeXT cube. Whilst
installing it I found that there's no place for the OD plug to be inserted.
Is it not possible for the turbo '040 cube to use an OD?

Also when trying to boot the machine with this board it just hangs after it
displays the booting sd(0,0,0)sdmach bit. I've left it on overnight so I
know it's not me being impatient. Furthermore it's not a termination issue
as I can put an 030 board back in and it boots just fine off of that same
disk.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Gary

Ashley Campbell

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Apr 14, 2002, 4:26:32 PM4/14/02
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In <yR7u8.477$uF4.1...@news.uswest.net> "Gary Wolfe" wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have just recently acquired a turbo '040 board for my NeXT cube. Whilst
> installing it I found that there's no place for the OD plug to be inserted.
> Is it not possible for the turbo '040 cube to use an OD?

Correct. They removed the OD socket from the motherboard. It's a little
inconvenient, but the Turbo motherboard is quite worth the bother. I'm not
sure about your other question (the booting.) Perhaps the turbo chipset needs
a certain version of the OS. What version of NS/OS are you using?

-awc

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Gary Wolfe

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Apr 15, 2002, 1:36:13 AM4/15/02
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"Ashley Campbell" <aw...@mac.delete.me.com> wrote in message
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> In <yR7u8.477$uF4.1...@news.uswest.net> "Gary Wolfe" wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have just recently acquired a turbo '040 board for my NeXT cube.
Whilst
> > installing it I found that there's no place for the OD plug to be
inserted.
> > Is it not possible for the turbo '040 cube to use an OD?
>
> Correct. They removed the OD socket from the motherboard. It's a little
> inconvenient, but the Turbo motherboard is quite worth the bother. I'm not
> sure about your other question (the booting.) Perhaps the turbo chipset
needs
> a certain version of the OS. What version of NS/OS are you using?

That extra 8MHz makes all the difference huh? As to the booting issue I
have no idea what the problem was but I grabbed another disk, put it in a
station, and reinstalled OS 4.2 on the new drive. Put it in the cube and it
booted just fine w/turbo board. The other disk still refuses to boot with
the turbo board. It is, booted via 030 and non turbo 040 board, an OS 4.2
installation. Very odd, but I can live with the "new" drive better anyway.
The one that refuses to boot is an old HP 660 that I think might have come
with the cube. It's the one that came with it when I bought it.

Another thing I came across whilst cleaning my garage was a box of NeXT
paraphenalia from the cube acquisition 3 years ago. It's a binder with a
special issue of NeXTeXTra created for the 1991 University of Washing
Computer Fair (March 20-21). There's also an official "Fall 1990 List
Prices" booklet and loads of product brochures. The main book is a
"Software Development Course Materials" binder from a NeXT Developers Camp.
I even have the Certificate of Achievement from the guy that attended the
course. If Tom Unger is around and wants his certificate back I'll send it
to him. I'm keeping the binder and other goods however. :-) It's from
September 14, 1990 btw. Main question is in a reprint from the November
1990 BYTE magazine "Fast New Systems from NeXT" by Nic Baran and Owen
Linderholm photo 2 has a picture of an ND board that's *MUCH* different from
my ND board. The biggest two are that it has a C-Cube chip and no expansion
connector whereas the one I own has no place for the C-Cube chip and has the
expansion connector. I'm guessing that the expansion connector is where the
C-Cube chip, on a daughter card, would be connected? So what happened? Did
a version with a C-Cube chip ever come out? What of the board that was used
to take the picture? Is there a daughter card with a C-Cube chip on it?

Thanks,

Gary

Aaron Brigati

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Apr 15, 2002, 7:31:30 AM4/15/02
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"Gary Wolfe" <wga...@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> That extra 8MHz makes all the difference huh?

Yup. it's not just the processor that's 8 MHz faster - it's the entire
motherboard.

> Is there a daughter card with a C-Cube chip on it?

The NeXTDimension was originally supposed to have a fancy realtime video
encoding chip. But the company couldn't come through with the chips, after
Steve Jobs had demo'd the board with them. Steve wasn't amused.

Ashley Campbell

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Apr 15, 2002, 1:39:18 PM4/15/02
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In <eFtu8.1046$rK2.1...@news.uswest.net> "Gary Wolfe" wrote:

> That extra 8MHz makes all the difference huh?

It's actually not the 8MHz, it's the Turbo chipset. The memory architecture
was tuned up, and most importantly, the machine can accomodate 128MB of RAM.
The extra RAM is what contributes most to the speed. It's a great machine --
I still use mine every day. It does my scanning, my news reading, serves my
printer to my Macs, I use Webster.app frequently, Quantrix runs my finances,
and it does all my FAXing. Beyond that, NeXTtv and the Dimension card let me
watch my security camera, and Notebook.app keeps track of everything I would
otherwise forget. Virtuoso.app is still the best vector graphics program I've
ever used. Honestly, the Turbo Cube (named Mikhail) is the best computer
purchase I have ever made when viewed from utility and personal ownership
satisfaction.

nos...@all.please.net

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Apr 15, 2002, 7:22:12 PM4/15/02
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In <3cbb1...@news.newsgroups.com> Ashley Campbell wrote:
> In <eFtu8.1046$rK2.1...@news.uswest.net> "Gary Wolfe" wrote:
>
> > That extra 8MHz makes all the difference huh?
>
> It's actually not the 8MHz, it's the Turbo chipset. The memory
architecture
> was tuned up, and most importantly, the machine can accomodate 128MB of
RAM.
> The extra RAM is what contributes most to the speed. It's a great
machine --
> I still use mine every day. It does my scanning, my news reading,
serves my
> printer to my Macs, I use Webster.app frequently, Quantrix runs my
finances,
> and it does all my FAXing.

What sort of FAX software/modem do you use?


Ashley Campbell

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Apr 15, 2002, 9:02:21 PM4/15/02
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In <a9fnb4$d4u$1...@cdm-112-131.tyler.tcac.net> nos...@all.please.net wrote:

> What sort of FAX software/modem do you use?

I use the built-in fax software and an old HSD faxmodem that I got from
c.s.n.marketplace a few years back. Great combo. You can probably trick it
into working with newer modems, but I haven't tried.

KP2 KP2

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