You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
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victor davis
Jan 19, 2015, 9:19:32 PM1/19/15
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Ant
Jan 20, 2015, 2:16:43 AM1/20/15
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On 1/19/2015 6:19 PM, victor davis wrote:
> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
Weird, I never saw this episode before.
> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
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Jan 20, 2015, 1:37:11 PM1/20/15
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 23:16:41 -0800, Ant wrote:
>> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
>
> Weird, I never saw this episode before.
It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
>> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
>
> Weird, I never saw this episode before.
much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
Even though he's only explaining why it's best to avoid updating
iTunes, his advice applies just as well to most Apple software.
victor davis
Jan 20, 2015, 1:43:19 PM1/20/15
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:37:05 +0000, victor davis wrote:
> It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
Direct quote: "iTunes is turning into a monstor"
> It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
For example, deauthorizing bullshit, update lost functionality
bullshit, update haunting message bullshit, & update causing
genius/ping/etc bootup bullshit.
Direct quote: "Stop updating iTunes!"
John McWilliams
Jan 20, 2015, 2:39:31 PM1/20/15
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What a crock.
Your Name
Jan 20, 2015, 2:50:42 PM1/20/15
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In article <m9m78h$1cp$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
And yet it's still about 50quintabazillion times better than any of the
utter garbage Microsloth produces from its toilet cleaner quality
"prgramming" divions.
utter garbage Microsloth produces from its toilet cleaner quality
"prgramming" divions.
nospam
Jan 20, 2015, 3:54:10 PM1/20/15
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In article <m9m78h$1cp$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
<v...@this.is.not.real.com> wrote:
> >> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
> >
> > Weird, I never saw this episode before.
>
> It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
actually none of it is even close.
> >> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
> >
> > Weird, I never saw this episode before.
>
> It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
itunes doesn't ask about updates if autoupdate is disabled, ping has
been history for a while and the reason why cd burning was removed from
the main panel is because fewer people burn discs (especially since
there aren't built-in optical drives anymore), exactly as he says.
he just wants to rant and make an idiot out of himself.
nospam
Jan 20, 2015, 3:54:11 PM1/20/15
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In article <m9m7k3$1cp$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
> For example, deauthorizing bullshit,
what bullshit is that? deauthorizing is easy, including systems that
the user no longer has. there really isn't a better way to do it than
how it's done now. do you have a better suggestion on how to
deauthorize a system the user no longer owns without making it trivial
to pirate?
> update lost functionality bullshit,
the cd burning wasn't lost.
as he said, it's not used as much, so its no longer in the main window.
> update haunting message bullshit,
that's easily disabled and he didn't do it.
> & update causing
> genius/ping/etc bootup bullshit.
there isn't any bootup bullshit and ping has been gone for a *while*.
> Direct quote: "Stop updating iTunes!"
what he should have said is "i should learn how to use this app and
configure it to do what i want."
he could have disabled the functionality he did not want in less time
than it took to make that idiotic video.
<v...@this.is.not.real.com> wrote:
>
> > It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> > much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
>
> Direct quote: "iTunes is turning into a monstor"
did he misspell it?
>
> > It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> > much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
>
> Direct quote: "iTunes is turning into a monstor"
> For example, deauthorizing bullshit,
what bullshit is that? deauthorizing is easy, including systems that
the user no longer has. there really isn't a better way to do it than
how it's done now. do you have a better suggestion on how to
deauthorize a system the user no longer owns without making it trivial
to pirate?
> update lost functionality bullshit,
the cd burning wasn't lost.
as he said, it's not used as much, so its no longer in the main window.
> update haunting message bullshit,
that's easily disabled and he didn't do it.
> & update causing
> genius/ping/etc bootup bullshit.
> Direct quote: "Stop updating iTunes!"
configure it to do what i want."
he could have disabled the functionality he did not want in less time
than it took to make that idiotic video.
Alan Browne
Jan 20, 2015, 7:54:09 PM1/20/15
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On 2015.01.19 21:19 , victor davis wrote:
> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
Other than itunes becoming grotesque and complex morass, which is true,
> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
most of his gripes are BS.
Obsessing over the burn CD button being gone. Really?
Not really understanding the Authorize/De-authorize mechanism? Really?
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Jan 20, 2015, 9:06:22 PM1/20/15
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On 1/20/2015 7:54 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2015.01.19 21:19 , victor davis wrote:
>> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
>
> Other than itunes becoming grotesque and complex morass, which is true,
> most of his gripes are BS.
>
> Obsessing over the burn CD button being gone. Really?
>
> Not really understanding the Authorize/De-authorize mechanism? Really?
>
"It just works"
> On 2015.01.19 21:19 , victor davis wrote:
>> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
>
> Other than itunes becoming grotesque and complex morass, which is true,
> most of his gripes are BS.
>
> Obsessing over the burn CD button being gone. Really?
>
> Not really understanding the Authorize/De-authorize mechanism? Really?
>
Differently every friggin time.
victor davis
Jan 21, 2015, 12:54:14 AM1/21/15
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:54:10 -0500, nospam wrote:
> what bullshit is that? deauthorizing is easy, including systems that
> the user no longer has. there really isn't a better way to do it than
> how it's done now. do you have a better suggestion on how to
> deauthorize a system the user no longer owns without making it trivial
> to pirate?
Did you listen to the video?
> what bullshit is that? deauthorizing is easy, including systems that
> the user no longer has. there really isn't a better way to do it than
> how it's done now. do you have a better suggestion on how to
> deauthorize a system the user no longer owns without making it trivial
> to pirate?
It's from the cinema massacre guy, who is well respected.
His points are all valid.
Why should you even have to deauthorize?
Only an Apple brainwhashed peson would think that's sane.
And, from a company founded by an ackknowledged pirate himself
(Steve Jobs originally sold telephone tone generators to scam AT&T).
victor davis
Jan 21, 2015, 12:56:44 AM1/21/15
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:50:45 +1300, Your Name wrote:
> And yet it's still about 50quintabazillion times better than any of the
> utter garbage Microsloth produces from its toilet cleaner quality
> "prgramming" divions.
You've got to be off your rocker if you think iTunes
> And yet it's still about 50quintabazillion times better than any of the
> utter garbage Microsloth produces from its toilet cleaner quality
> "prgramming" divions.
has a sane use model.
It's a monstor of crap.
You don't even know any better.
Try Groove some day.
You'll never use iTunes shit again.
victor davis
Jan 21, 2015, 12:58:22 AM1/21/15
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:54:08 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
> Not really understanding the Authorize/De-authorize mechanism? Really?
> Not really understanding the Authorize/De-authorize mechanism? Really?
Why should you even have to deauthorize?
Only an Apple brainwashed person would even THINK that way.
At leaset you agree that itunes is grotisque.
Your Name
Jan 21, 2015, 1:07:32 AM1/21/15
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In article <m9neu2$u1l$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
It has virtually nothing to do with Apple or Steve Jobs. The DRM system
was at the insistence of the industries creating the content.
It's not just them either. Adobe used to have a similar system when
installing / using their applications. To stop people using one
licensed copy on multiple computers, you had one authorised install and
if you wanted to use the software on another computer, then you had to
first deauthorise the first one ... which, as we discovered, was a pain
in the backside when the first computer had been stolen.
was at the insistence of the industries creating the content.
It's not just them either. Adobe used to have a similar system when
installing / using their applications. To stop people using one
licensed copy on multiple computers, you had one authorised install and
if you wanted to use the software on another computer, then you had to
first deauthorise the first one ... which, as we discovered, was a pain
in the backside when the first computer had been stolen.
Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 1:07:33 AM1/21/15
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In article <m9neu2$u1l$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
Because if you sell or give away the computer, you don't want that
computer attached to your iTunes account any more.
Because if you sell or give away the computer, you don't want that
computer attached to your iTunes account any more.
Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 1:09:54 AM1/21/15
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In article <m9nf5s$u1l$3...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
de-authorize?
> At leaset you agree that itunes is grotisque.
Learn how to spell and/or proofread your work.
<v...@this.is.not.real.com> wrote:
> > Not really understanding the Authorize/De-authorize mechanism? Really?
>
> Why should you even have to deauthorize?
> Only an Apple brainwashed person would even THINK that way.
Please tell us, in your own words, why you should never have to
> > Not really understanding the Authorize/De-authorize mechanism? Really?
>
> Why should you even have to deauthorize?
> Only an Apple brainwashed person would even THINK that way.
de-authorize?
> At leaset you agree that itunes is grotisque.
Your Name
Jan 21, 2015, 1:10:32 AM1/21/15
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In article <m9nf2p$u1l$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
And Microsloth's garbage is still 50quintabazillion times worse than
anything Apple has ever made. Any issues with iYunes on a Windoze PC
are almost all down to Microsloth's complete inability to properly
program a computer and the disasterous mess of non-standards and weird
hardware.
anything Apple has ever made. Any issues with iYunes on a Windoze PC
are almost all down to Microsloth's complete inability to properly
program a computer and the disasterous mess of non-standards and weird
hardware.
nospam
Jan 21, 2015, 1:11:55 AM1/21/15
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In article <m9neu2$u1l$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
<v...@this.is.not.real.com> wrote:
> > what bullshit is that? deauthorizing is easy, including systems that
> > the user no longer has. there really isn't a better way to do it than
> > how it's done now. do you have a better suggestion on how to
> > deauthorize a system the user no longer owns without making it trivial
> > to pirate?
>
> Did you listen to the video?
unfortunately not only did i listen to it, but i had the misfortune of
> > what bullshit is that? deauthorizing is easy, including systems that
> > the user no longer has. there really isn't a better way to do it than
> > how it's done now. do you have a better suggestion on how to
> > deauthorize a system the user no longer owns without making it trivial
> > to pirate?
>
> Did you listen to the video?
watching it.
> It's from the cinema massacre guy, who is well respected.
> His points are all valid.
the valid point is that he's an idiot who doesn't know how to use
itunes.
auto-update is easily disabled, deauthorization is easy, bitching bout
the cd burn icon going away is absurd, ping has been dead for quite a
while and the genius stuff can be turned off.
itunes isn't perfect (nothing is), but he didn't talk about what's
really wrong with it.
> Why should you even have to deauthorize?
many systems can be concurrently authorized. go bitch at them for
forcing it upon apple and users.
apple historically has opposed drm and copy protection, but they didn't
have a choice to launch the music store and video store.
the music industry has since realized that online sales was actually a
good thing so they no longer require drm, but the movie industry still
does.
the way itunes implements drm affects very few people because most
people know to deauthorize a system when replacing it but for those who
forget, there's a way to do it without having the actual system.
> Only an Apple brainwhashed peson would think that's sane.
> And, from a company founded by an ackknowledged pirate himself
> (Steve Jobs originally sold telephone tone generators to scam AT&T).
john james
Jan 21, 2015, 1:23:37 AM1/21/15
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intuitive.
> and the disasterous mess of non-standards and weird hardware.
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Ant
Jan 21, 2015, 3:01:59 AM1/21/15
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>>> You Know What's Bullshit!? - iTunes
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
>>
>> Weird, I never saw this episode before.
>
> It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
>
> Even though he's only explaining why it's best to avoid updating
> iTunes, his advice applies just as well to most Apple software.
I do agree with him. :(
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZqfvgUOWU
>>
>> Weird, I never saw this episode before.
>
> It's a pretty good episode which whose logic you can't argue
> much with, as everything he says is right on the bullseye.
>
> Even though he's only explaining why it's best to avoid updating
> iTunes, his advice applies just as well to most Apple software.
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Jan 21, 2015, 6:59:20 AM1/21/15
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:10:40 +1300, Your Name wrote:
> And Microsloth's garbage is still 50quintabazillion times worse
What does Microsoft even have to do with this conversation?
> And Microsloth's garbage is still 50quintabazillion times worse
victor davis
Jan 21, 2015, 7:05:56 AM1/21/15
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:07:32 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> Because if you sell or give away the computer, you don't want that
> computer attached to your iTunes account any more.
If you sell or give away your computer, you've already formatted
> Because if you sell or give away the computer, you don't want that
> computer attached to your iTunes account any more.
your hard drives.
victor davis
Jan 21, 2015, 7:09:36 AM1/21/15
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:09:53 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> Please tell us, in your own words, why you should never have to
> de-authorize?
Simple.
> Please tell us, in your own words, why you should never have to
> de-authorize?
Don't install iTunes and you won't ever have to put up with
that bullshit.
I use Sharepod for ipods, and it does everything I need it to
do plus way more that itunes can't do except initialize the ipod.
I use Groove for ipads and it does, for me, all that I want,
so I don't ever have to use itunes.
On my desktop, I don't have itunes on it and with sharepod
and the basic drivers, I can do everything I need.
All without that grotesq bullshit that is itunes!
nospam
Jan 21, 2015, 8:47:07 AM1/21/15
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In article <m9o4mv$jb2$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
you obviously don't understand itunes any more than the idiot who made
the video.
<v...@this.is.not.real.com> wrote:
> > Because if you sell or give away the computer, you don't want that
> > computer attached to your iTunes account any more.
>
> If you sell or give away your computer, you've already formatted
> your hard drives.
so what?
> > Because if you sell or give away the computer, you don't want that
> > computer attached to your iTunes account any more.
>
> If you sell or give away your computer, you've already formatted
> your hard drives.
you obviously don't understand itunes any more than the idiot who made
the video.
nospam
Jan 21, 2015, 8:47:08 AM1/21/15
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In article <m9o4ts$jb2$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
you probably pirate all your music.
> I use Sharepod for ipods, and it does everything I need it to
> do
then your needs are very simple and itunes is well over your head. you
obviously don't even know what itunes can do.
> plus way more that itunes can't do except initialize the ipod.
it can't do a whole lot more than that.
<v...@this.is.not.real.com> wrote:
> > Please tell us, in your own words, why you should never have to
> > de-authorize?
>
> Simple.
> Don't install iTunes and you won't ever have to put up with
> that bullshit.
if you don't buy music from the itunes store then it won't be an issue.
> > Please tell us, in your own words, why you should never have to
> > de-authorize?
>
> Simple.
> Don't install iTunes and you won't ever have to put up with
> that bullshit.
you probably pirate all your music.
> I use Sharepod for ipods, and it does everything I need it to
> do
obviously don't even know what itunes can do.
> plus way more that itunes can't do except initialize the ipod.
Jolly Roger
Jan 21, 2015, 10:59:19 AM1/21/15
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content and settings from my iOS devices to my computers, nor backing up
my iOS devices, nor any of the other things iTunes does. That's a no-go
for me. iTunes certainly isn't simple or top-notch; but it does get many
things done better than any other solution out there. Personally, I'd
like to see Apple break iTunes up into multiple apps/services so that
individually they would be more manageable and perhaps less dependant on
each other (i.e. less buggy). Barring that, I use it because it does
things I need done that cannot be done elsewhere.
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Jan 21, 2015, 11:02:06 AM1/21/15
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On 2015-01-21, john james <jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Your Name" <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in message
> news:210120151910401203%Your...@YourISP.com...
>>
> "Your Name" <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> And Microsloth's garbage is still 50quintabazillion times worse than
>> anything Apple has ever made. Any issues with iYunes on a Windoze PC
>> are almost all down to Microsloth's complete inability to properly
>> program a computer
>
> Bullshit. The user interface is completely fucked and completely counter
> intuitive.
I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
>> anything Apple has ever made. Any issues with iYunes on a Windoze PC
>> are almost all down to Microsloth's complete inability to properly
>> program a computer
>
> Bullshit. The user interface is completely fucked and completely counter
> intuitive.
Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music, listen to
iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists. If I want to do something with
applications, I instead click the Apps icon, where I can purchase apps,
manage apps I already have, and so on. If I want to manage my iOS
devices, I click the device icon. It's all pretty well laid out for me.
Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 12:49:33 PM1/21/15
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Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 12:51:26 PM1/21/15
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In article <m9o4ts$jb2$2...@speranza.aioe.org>, victor davis
> All without that grotesq bullshit that is itunes!
Your bigotry is showing.
<v...@this.is.not.real.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:09:53 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
> > Please tell us, in your own words, why you should never have to
> > de-authorize?
>
> Simple.
> Don't install iTunes and you won't ever have to put up with
> that bullshit.
Answer the question.
> On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:09:53 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
> > Please tell us, in your own words, why you should never have to
> > de-authorize?
>
> Simple.
> Don't install iTunes and you won't ever have to put up with
> that bullshit.
> All without that grotesq bullshit that is itunes!
john james
Jan 21, 2015, 4:23:29 PM1/21/15
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> On 2015-01-21, john james <jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "Your Name" <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in message
>> news:210120151910401203%Your...@YourISP.com...
>>>
>>> And Microsloth's garbage is still 50quintabazillion times worse than
>>> anything Apple has ever made. Any issues with iYunes on a Windoze PC
>>> are almost all down to Microsloth's complete inability to properly
>>> program a computer
>>
>> Bullshit. The user interface is completely fucked and completely counter
>> intuitive.
>
> I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
> Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
> listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
>> "Your Name" <Your...@YourISP.com> wrote in message
>> news:210120151910401203%Your...@YourISP.com...
>>>
>>> And Microsloth's garbage is still 50quintabazillion times worse than
>>> anything Apple has ever made. Any issues with iYunes on a Windoze PC
>>> are almost all down to Microsloth's complete inability to properly
>>> program a computer
>>
>> Bullshit. The user interface is completely fucked and completely counter
>> intuitive.
>
> I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
> Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
> listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
> If I want to do something with applications,
> I instead click the Apps icon, where I can purchase
> apps, manage apps I already have, and so on.
> If I want to manage my iOS devices, I click the device icon.
> It's all pretty well laid out for me.
file which the iDevice doesn’t support the format of.
nospam
Jan 21, 2015, 4:25:59 PM1/21/15
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In article <ciajme...@mid.individual.net>, john james
the other person can get their own copy (through legitimate channels)
and add it themselves.
> Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
that's easy.
<jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
> > Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
> > listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
>
> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
that's piracy.
> > I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
> > Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
> > listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
>
> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
the other person can get their own copy (through legitimate channels)
and add it themselves.
> Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 6:18:51 PM1/21/15
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> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
No problem.
> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
> Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
> > It's all pretty well laid out for me.
>
> Not when you just want to be able to just play a video
> file which the iDevice doesn¹t support the format of.
john james
Jan 21, 2015, 9:31:07 PM1/21/15
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"nospam" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:210120151625587971%nos...@nospam.invalid...
> In article <ciajme...@mid.individual.net>, john james
> <jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> > I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
>> > Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
>> > listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
>>
>> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
>> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
>> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
> that's piracy.
Not when you paid for it when you bought the CD etc.
> <jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> > I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
>> > Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
>> > listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
>>
>> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
>> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
>> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
> that's piracy.
> the other person can get their own copy (through
> legitimate channels) and add it themselves.
I choose to give what I paid for to them.
>> Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
> that's easy.
john james
Jan 21, 2015, 9:43:15 PM1/21/15
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"Michelle Steiner" <mich...@michelle.org> wrote in message
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> In article <ciajme...@mid.individual.net>, john james
> <jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
>> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
>> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
>
> No problem.
Didn't say it was a problem, I said iTunes is very
> <jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
>> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
>> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
>
> No problem.
counter intuitive when you need to do that.
>> Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
>
> That has nothing to do with iTunes.
does that very counter intuitively.
>> > It's all pretty well laid out for me.
>>
>> Not when you just want to be able to just play a video
>> file which the iDevice doesn¹t support the format of.
>
> That has nothing to do with iTunes.
does that very counter intuitively.
BobbyK
Jan 21, 2015, 9:56:02 PM1/21/15
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:43:10 +1100, "john james" <jj9...@nospam.com>
wrote:
counter intuitively counter intuitively
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counter intuitively counter intuitively
Just don't use iTunes and quit your bitching.
wrote:
counter intuitively counter intuitively
counter intuitively counter intuitively
counter intuitively counter intuitively
counter intuitively counter intuitively
counter intuitively counter intuitively
counter intuitively counter intuitively
counter intuitively counter intuitively
Just don't use iTunes and quit your bitching.
Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 10:08:29 PM1/21/15
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In article <cib5n9...@mid.individual.net>, john james
> > the other person can get their own copy (through
> > legitimate channels) and add it themselves.
>
> No reason why they should have to if
> I choose to give what I paid for to them.
If you truly give it to them, and not just make a copy for them, that
is OK, but if you make a copy for them while keeping the original (or a
copy) for yourself, it's piracy. Just as if you burned it on a CD for
them or (in the days of yore) made a tape recording of it for them.
<jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> > I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
> >> > Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
> >> > listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
> >>
> >> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
> >> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> >> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
>
> > that's piracy.
>
> Not when you paid for it when you bought the CD etc.
Unless you get rid of it on your own devices, it is piracy.
> >> > I don't find it counter-intuitive at all. I open iTunes and click the
> >> > Music icon if I want to purchase music, organize my own music,
> >> > listen to iTunes Radio, or manage my playlists.
> >>
> >> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
> >> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> >> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
>
> > that's piracy.
>
> Not when you paid for it when you bought the CD etc.
> > the other person can get their own copy (through
> > legitimate channels) and add it themselves.
>
> No reason why they should have to if
> I choose to give what I paid for to them.
is OK, but if you make a copy for them while keeping the original (or a
copy) for yourself, it's piracy. Just as if you burned it on a CD for
them or (in the days of yore) made a tape recording of it for them.
Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 10:11:52 PM1/21/15
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In article <cib6e1...@mid.individual.net>, john james
counterintuitive.
> >> Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
> >
> > That has nothing to do with iTunes.
>
> It has everything to do with how iTunes
> does that very counter intuitively.
Why in the world would you put a movie onto an iDevice if that movie
isn't supported by the iDevice?
> >> > It's all pretty well laid out for me.
> >>
> >> Not when you just want to be able to just play a video
> >> file which the iDevice doesn¹t support the format of.
> >
> > That has nothing to do with iTunes.
>
> It has everything to do with how iTunes
> does that very counter intuitively.
Why in the world would you put a video onto an iDevice if that video
isn't supported by the iDevice?
<jj9...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
> >> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> >> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
> >
> > No problem.
>
> Didn't say it was a problem, I said iTunes is very
> counter intuitive when you need to do that.
If it is counter intuitive, it is a problem. But it is not
> >> Now try taking a track you got from somewhere other
> >> than the iTunes store and just add it to someone else's
> >> iDevice because they want it on their iDevice.
> >
> > No problem.
>
> Didn't say it was a problem, I said iTunes is very
> counter intuitive when you need to do that.
counterintuitive.
> >> Or a movie etc that isn't supported by the iDevice.
> >
> > That has nothing to do with iTunes.
>
> It has everything to do with how iTunes
> does that very counter intuitively.
isn't supported by the iDevice?
> >> > It's all pretty well laid out for me.
> >>
> >> Not when you just want to be able to just play a video
> >> file which the iDevice doesn¹t support the format of.
> >
> > That has nothing to do with iTunes.
>
> It has everything to do with how iTunes
> does that very counter intuitively.
isn't supported by the iDevice?
Michelle Steiner
Jan 21, 2015, 10:13:02 PM1/21/15
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