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TaliesinSoft
May 10, 2013, 10:19:45 PM5/10/13
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With the Finder open there is a panel of options available when one
selects "Show View Options" from the "View" menu. That produces a panel
of options, one of which is "Use as Defaults". My attempts to figure
out just what this option did went unresolved for the longest time. The
problem was partly that neither of my several Mountain Lion books had
any innformation at all regerding this option. I was finally able to
find what I needed to know from the Apple onine Support discussions.
The answer was that if you held down the "option" key while clicking on
the "Use as Defaults" button it changes to the "Restore to Defaults"
button. So I guess I remain boggled that none of my Mountain Lion books
included any discussion whatsoever regarding this feature!
--
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas
selects "Show View Options" from the "View" menu. That produces a panel
of options, one of which is "Use as Defaults". My attempts to figure
out just what this option did went unresolved for the longest time. The
problem was partly that neither of my several Mountain Lion books had
any innformation at all regerding this option. I was finally able to
find what I needed to know from the Apple onine Support discussions.
The answer was that if you held down the "option" key while clicking on
the "Use as Defaults" button it changes to the "Restore to Defaults"
button. So I guess I remain boggled that none of my Mountain Lion books
included any discussion whatsoever regarding this feature!
--
James Leo Ryan - Austin, Texas
Barry Margolin
May 11, 2013, 12:59:41 PM5/11/13
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In article <av5o61...@mid.individual.net>,
Apple has never had highly detailed documentation for many of the basic
applications on the Mac. I think their attitude was that most of the
things in the menus and toolbars should be self-evident -- that was the
whole idea of replacing command lines, which required remembering dozens
or hundreds of commands, with GUIs, where everything you need to do is
right there with a reasonably clear name.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
applications on the Mac. I think their attitude was that most of the
things in the menus and toolbars should be self-evident -- that was the
whole idea of replacing command lines, which required remembering dozens
or hundreds of commands, with GUIs, where everything you need to do is
right there with a reasonably clear name.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
David Ritz
May 11, 2013, 2:19:31 PM5/11/13
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On Friday, 10 May 2013 21:19 -0500,
in article <av5o61...@mid.individual.net>,
TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> With the Finder open ...
By this, I assume you mean, "With a Finder Window open." While simply
in the Finder and selecting "Show View Options" (command-J), there's
no "Use as Defaults" button.
> ... there is a panel of options available when one selects "Show
'as Icons' (command-1), 'as List' (command-2), 'as Columns'
(hierarchic - command-3), or 'as Cover Flow'. My preference is to use
a hierarchic view, for which the "Use as Default" button does not
exist. In the "View Options" dialog box, while using a column view, I
selected the "Always Open in column view" and "Browse in column view"
boxes.
> My attempts to figure out just what this option did went unresolved
> for the longest time.
This seems somewhat self-evident, as multiple check-boxes and
scrollable menu items are evident, when using the View=>View Options
dialog box. If you make a change, it's going to apply to the specific
Finder window, only. If you want your selected View Options to be a
user default view, the "Use as Default" button will do just that. Do
note, that each available Finder window view, with the exception of
columns, allows its own set of defaults, for that specific view.
> The problem was partly that neither of my several Mountain Lion
> books had any innformation at all regerding this option. I was
> finally able to find what I needed to know from the Apple onine
> Support discussions. The answer was that if you held down the
> "option" key while clicking on the "Use as Defaults" button it
> changes to the "Restore to Defaults" button. So I guess I remain
> boggled that none of my Mountain Lion books included any discussion
> whatsoever regarding this feature!
The option (alt) key is a modifier, in this case providing another
option, to reset the window view to the Apple defined defaults. The
opton (alt) key is worth keeping in mind, even for pull-down menus.
So far as the books are concerned, that's a question best posed to
their authors.
- --
David Ritz <dr...@mindspring.com>
Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.
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On Friday, 10 May 2013 21:19 -0500,
in article <av5o61...@mid.individual.net>,
TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> With the Finder open ...
By this, I assume you mean, "With a Finder Window open." While simply
in the Finder and selecting "Show View Options" (command-J), there's
no "Use as Defaults" button.
> ... there is a panel of options available when one selects "Show
> View Options" from the "View" menu. That produces a panel of
> options, one of which is "Use as Defaults".
This is dependent on the which window view is selected, at the time,
> options, one of which is "Use as Defaults".
'as Icons' (command-1), 'as List' (command-2), 'as Columns'
(hierarchic - command-3), or 'as Cover Flow'. My preference is to use
a hierarchic view, for which the "Use as Default" button does not
exist. In the "View Options" dialog box, while using a column view, I
selected the "Always Open in column view" and "Browse in column view"
boxes.
> My attempts to figure out just what this option did went unresolved
> for the longest time.
scrollable menu items are evident, when using the View=>View Options
dialog box. If you make a change, it's going to apply to the specific
Finder window, only. If you want your selected View Options to be a
user default view, the "Use as Default" button will do just that. Do
note, that each available Finder window view, with the exception of
columns, allows its own set of defaults, for that specific view.
> The problem was partly that neither of my several Mountain Lion
> books had any innformation at all regerding this option. I was
> finally able to find what I needed to know from the Apple onine
> Support discussions. The answer was that if you held down the
> "option" key while clicking on the "Use as Defaults" button it
> changes to the "Restore to Defaults" button. So I guess I remain
> boggled that none of my Mountain Lion books included any discussion
> whatsoever regarding this feature!
option, to reset the window view to the Apple defined defaults. The
opton (alt) key is worth keeping in mind, even for pull-down menus.
So far as the books are concerned, that's a question best posed to
their authors.
- --
David Ritz <dr...@mindspring.com>
Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.
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bi...@mix.com
May 12, 2013, 2:00:06 PM5/12/13
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Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> writes:
> Apple has never had highly detailed documentation for many of the basic
> applications on the Mac.
These books are expensive, but decent references
> Apple has never had highly detailed documentation for many of the basic
> applications on the Mac.
for those who'd like some actual documentation -
http://oreilly.com/missingmanuals/library.html
And in this particular case (US$35) -
OS X Mountain Lion: The Missing Manual
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025634.do
Billy Y..
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TaliesinSoft
May 14, 2013, 12:21:28 PM5/14/13
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On 2013-05-11 18:19:31 +0000, David Ritz said:
[in regards to the use of the optiion key in the Finder's view optiions panel]
> The option (alt) key is a modifier, in this case providing another
> option, to reset the window view to the Apple defined defaults. The
> opton (alt) key is worth keeping in mind, even for pull-down menus.
>
> So far as the books are concerned, that's a question best posed to
> their authors.
I guess my grump boils down to why the books I have for Mountain Lion
failed to mention the use of the View Options panel and how the "Use as
Defaults" becomes "Restore to Defaults" when the options key is
depressed. This is an example of how the inclusion of just a few
sentences can make a big difference!
[in regards to the use of the optiion key in the Finder's view optiions panel]
> The option (alt) key is a modifier, in this case providing another
> option, to reset the window view to the Apple defined defaults. The
> opton (alt) key is worth keeping in mind, even for pull-down menus.
>
> So far as the books are concerned, that's a question best posed to
> their authors.
failed to mention the use of the View Options panel and how the "Use as
Defaults" becomes "Restore to Defaults" when the options key is
depressed. This is an example of how the inclusion of just a few
sentences can make a big difference!
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David Ritz
May 14, 2013, 3:09:30 PM5/14/13
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in article <avf6k8...@mid.individual.net>,
TaliesinSoft <talies...@me.com> wrote:
> On 2013-05-11 18:19:31 +0000, David Ritz said:
> [in regards to the use of the optiion key in the Finder's view
> optiions panel]
>> The option (alt) key is a modifier, in this case providing another
>> option, to reset the window view to the Apple defined defaults.
>> The option (alt) key is worth keeping in mind, even for pull-down
> On 2013-05-11 18:19:31 +0000, David Ritz said:
> [in regards to the use of the optiion key in the Finder's view
> optiions panel]
>> The option (alt) key is a modifier, in this case providing another
>> option, to reset the window view to the Apple defined defaults.
>> menus.
>> So far as the books are concerned, that's a question best posed to
>> their authors.
> I guess my grump boils down to why the books I have for Mountain
> Lion failed to mention the use of the View Options panel and how the
> "Use as Defaults" becomes "Restore to Defaults" when the options key
> is depressed. This is an example of how the inclusion of just a few
> sentences can make a big difference!
As I suggested, above, that's a matter for you to take up with the
>> So far as the books are concerned, that's a question best posed to
>> their authors.
> I guess my grump boils down to why the books I have for Mountain
> Lion failed to mention the use of the View Options panel and how the
> "Use as Defaults" becomes "Restore to Defaults" when the options key
> is depressed. This is an example of how the inclusion of just a few
> sentences can make a big difference!
authors of whatever books you're using.
Before doing so, you may want to review what they've written,
regarding the option key and its uses. As this is not a specifically
Finder related issue, the general case may be a more appropriate
source of information, on how the option key may be used, for a wide
variety of alternate tasks.
- --
David Ritz <dr...@mindspring.com>
Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.
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Walter Bushell
Jul 7, 2013, 11:13:01 AM7/7/13
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In article <barmar-C8523C....@news.eternal-september.org>,
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Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Apple has never had highly detailed documentation for many of the basic
> applications on the Mac. I think their attitude was that most of the
> things in the menus and toolbars should be self-evident -- that was the
> whole idea of replacing command lines, which required remembering dozens
> or hundreds of commands, with GUIs, where everything you need to do is
> right there with a reasonably clear name.
They need to add "Try holding down the function keys.".
> Apple has never had highly detailed documentation for many of the basic
> applications on the Mac. I think their attitude was that most of the
> things in the menus and toolbars should be self-evident -- that was the
> whole idea of replacing command lines, which required remembering dozens
> or hundreds of commands, with GUIs, where everything you need to do is
> right there with a reasonably clear name.
--
Gambling with Other People's Money is the meth of the fiscal industry.
me -- in the spirit of Karl and Groucho Marx
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