Mail Drop

[Paul Goodman]

I sent an email with attachments and it was sent using mail drop as the
size of the attachments exceeded google's outgoing server limit. The
recipient received the email with the message that the attachments
could be downloaded for x amount of days, but when they try and
download, nothing happens. There is a screen that says "don't see the
attachments, try again". Clicking on try again does nothing. Is there
something I have done wrong in the sending process? My system is a
macbook pro, running 10.11.6.

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Paul Goodman

[Jolly Roger]

What email client, web browser, and operating system is the recipient
using?

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JR

[Savageduck]

If the attachments are that big, consider using Dropbox.

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[Your Name]

In article <20160826213953...@comcast.net>, Paul Goodman

More likely it's their system causing the problem. Perhaps they have
Java / JavaScript turned off or a version that's too old.

[Your Name]

In article <chrispam1-EFBDE...@aioe.org>, Chris Schram

<chri...@me.com> wrote:
> In article <20160826213953...@comcast.net>,
> Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >

> I thought Mail Drop only works with iCloud mail. I have no idea how
> Google handles such things.

Mail Drop should work with anything. It simply sends an email with a
download link in it, same as a sharing link through many other website
storage services.

[Alan Browne]

Less hassle and uncertainty to dump the file on DropBox and send a link
to it.


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[Paul Goodman]

On 2016-08-27 01:59:34 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-08-27, Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I sent an email with attachments and it was sent using mail drop as the
>> size of the attachments exceeded google's outgoing server limit. The
>> recipient received the email with the message that the attachments
>> could be downloaded for x amount of days, but when they try and
>> download, nothing happens. There is a screen that says "don't see the
>> attachments, try again". Clicking on try again does nothing. Is there
>> something I have done wrong in the sending process? My system is a
>> macbook pro, running 10.11.6.
>
> What email client, web browser, and operating system is the recipient
> using?

They are using Google's Web Mail interface on Window's 7. Chrome is
the browser.

If I look at my sent mail folder with the Google Web Mail interface
rather than Apple Mail, the same thing happens to me on my mac. These
are pdf files about of various sizes and the total size of them all
combined just barely exceeds 20 MB. A couple of them do display
properly, but the larger ones do not. I have both dropbox and media
fire, so I guess I will just upload them there and send a link. Or I
could just email them all one at a time...

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Paul Goodman

[Jolly Roger]

Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 2016-08-27 01:59:34 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2016-08-27, Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I sent an email with attachments and it was sent using mail drop as the
>>> size of the attachments exceeded google's outgoing server limit. The
>>> recipient received the email with the message that the attachments
>>> could be downloaded for x amount of days, but when they try and
>>> download, nothing happens. There is a screen that says "don't see the
>>> attachments, try again". Clicking on try again does nothing. Is there
>>> something I have done wrong in the sending process? My system is a
>>> macbook pro, running 10.11.6.
>>
>> What email client, web browser, and operating system is the recipient
>> using?
>
> They are using Google's Web Mail interface on Window's 7. Chrome is
> the browser.
>
> If I look at my sent mail folder with the Google Web Mail interface
> rather than Apple Mail, the same thing happens to me on my mac.

What web browser are you using? Chrome too? Have you tried alternative web
browsers?

> These
> are pdf files about of various sizes and the total size of them all
> combined just barely exceeds 20 MB. A couple of them do display
> properly, but the larger ones do not.

Do any errors show up in the browser console when you try to view the
larger ones?

I'd like to try it out myself. What size seems to be too big to download?

> I have both dropbox and media
> fire, so I guess I will just upload them there and send a link. Or I
> could just email them all one at a time...

It's good to have choices!

[Paul Goodman]

On 2016-08-27 14:56:29 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 2016-08-27 01:59:34 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>>
>>> On 2016-08-27, Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I sent an email with attachments and it was sent using mail drop as the
>>>> size of the attachments exceeded google's outgoing server limit. The
>>>> recipient received the email with the message that the attachments
>>>> could be downloaded for x amount of days, but when they try and
>>>> download, nothing happens. There is a screen that says "don't see the
>>>> attachments, try again". Clicking on try again does nothing. Is there
>>>> something I have done wrong in the sending process? My system is a
>>>> macbook pro, running 10.11.6.
>>>
>>> What email client, web browser, and operating system is the recipient
>>> using?
>>
>> They are using Google's Web Mail interface on Window's 7. Chrome is
>> the browser.
>>
>> If I look at my sent mail folder with the Google Web Mail interface
>> rather than Apple Mail, the same thing happens to me on my mac.
>
> What web browser are you using? Chrome too? Have you tried alternative web
> browsers?

I tried with both Safari and Firefox. I don't have chrome on my mac.

>
>> These
>> are pdf files about of various sizes and the total size of them all
>> combined just barely exceeds 20 MB. A couple of them do display
>> properly, but the larger ones do not.
>
> Do any errors show up in the browser console when you try to view the
> larger ones?

This is what the console says after I made an attempt to view the files:

8/27/16 12:59:40.209 PM Safari[1586]: Failed to save record: <CKError
0x7fb4139d4ab0: "Internal Error" (1/5001); "Fetched zone had no
protection data: <CKRecordZone: 0x7f8f33f63e70;
zoneID=History:__defaultOwner__, capabilities=(Atomic,Sync)>">

>
> I'd like to try it out myself. What size seems to be too big to download?

12.8 MB

Not very big and sends fine if I don't put any of the other attachments
with it. It is just happening when I try an send the whole group.

>
>
>> I have both dropbox and media
>> fire, so I guess I will just upload them there and send a link. Or I
>> could just email them all one at a time...
>
> It's good to have choices!

Yes it is! Thanks for your help.

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Paul Goodman

[Jolly Roger]

On 2016-08-27, Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 2016-08-27 14:56:29 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> If I look at my sent mail folder with the Google Web Mail interface
>>> rather than Apple Mail, the same thing happens to me on my mac.
>>
>> What web browser are you using? Chrome too? Have you tried alternative web
>> browsers?
>
> I tried with both Safari and Firefox. I don't have chrome on my mac.

Interesting. Okay.

>> Do any errors show up in the browser console when you try to view the
>> larger ones?
>
> This is what the console says after I made an attempt to view the files:
>
> 8/27/16 12:59:40.209 PM Safari[1586]: Failed to save record: <CKError
> 0x7fb4139d4ab0: "Internal Error" (1/5001); "Fetched zone had no
> protection data: <CKRecordZone: 0x7f8f33f63e70;
> zoneID=History:__defaultOwner__, capabilities=(Atomic,Sync)>">

That's the Console application. I was asking what the *browser* console
showed. To display the Safari browser console, enable the Develop menu
in Safari Preferences > Advanced > Show Develop menu in menu bar, then
go to http://mail.google.com and choose Develop > Show Error Console
from the menu bar. Then when you try to view an attachment, see what
errors are displayed in the console.

>> I'd like to try it out myself. What size seems to be too big to download?
>
> 12.8 MB
>
> Not very big and sends fine if I don't put any of the other attachments
> with it. It is just happening when I try an send the whole group.

Thanks. I don't normally send huge email attachments, and at the moment
Mail is acting very buggy when I try. After I drag a big PDF document
into a message, Mail spins and doesn't display the attachment until a
few seconds later. Then when i finally have several added, and I click
Send, Mail says it is "Sending Message (269.3 MB) with a progress bar.
It never did ask me if I wanted to send the attachments through Mail
Drop. And I know for a fact my mail server allows a maximum of 100 MB
message size. And during this time, my internet radio stream is cutting
in and out as if Mail is saturating my network connection, which isn't
the case because I can see no more than 500 KB throughput! So at the
moment, it appears I'm unable to test Mail Drop at all. Nice job, Apple!
: /

[Jolly Roger]

On 2016-08-27, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I don't normally send huge email attachments, and at the moment
> Mail is acting very buggy when I try. After I drag a big PDF document
> into a message, Mail spins and doesn't display the attachment until a
> few seconds later. Then when i finally have several added, and I click
> Send, Mail says it is "Sending Message (269.3 MB) with a progress bar.
> It never did ask me if I wanted to send the attachments through Mail
> Drop. And I know for a fact my mail server allows a maximum of 100 MB
> message size. And during this time, my internet radio stream is cutting
> in and out as if Mail is saturating my network connection, which isn't
> the case because I can see no more than 500 KB throughput! So at the
> moment, it appears I'm unable to test Mail Drop at all. Nice job, Apple!
>: /

And now the wife reports Netflix is cutting out as well. : D Must be a
problem at the router, somehow caused by Mail uploading a mere 270 MB of
attachments. No idea whether the attachments are going to Mail Drop or
not. We'll see... Guess I'll reboot it once this is done sending. So
strange!

While I was writing this the send completed, and Mail displayed the
error: "Unable to send attachments with Mail Drop. Try again later."

Talk about buggy. I'm disabling Mail Drop now. Screw that buggy noise.

[Savageduck]

I usually use Dropbox when it comes to large attachments. However, I
just tried an email with a 245MB video attached from my iPhone to one
of my secondary email addresses on my Mac. I was presented with the
file too large, use Mail Drop option, so I did. My default email client
on my Mac is "Mail". The 245MB attachment was sent and received without
issue.

I have a feeling your problem might lie with Google Web Mail.

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Savageduck

[Jolly Roger]

On 2016-08-27, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2016-08-27 17:37:43 +0000, Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> said:
>
>> Thanks. I don't normally send huge email attachments, and at the moment
>> Mail is acting very buggy when I try. After I drag a big PDF document
>> into a message, Mail spins and doesn't display the attachment until a
>> few seconds later. Then when i finally have several added, and I click
>> Send, Mail says it is "Sending Message (269.3 MB) with a progress bar.
>> It never did ask me if I wanted to send the attachments through Mail
>> Drop. And I know for a fact my mail server allows a maximum of 100 MB
>> message size. And during this time, my internet radio stream is cutting
>> in and out as if Mail is saturating my network connection, which isn't
>> the case because I can see no more than 500 KB throughput! So at the
>> moment, it appears I'm unable to test Mail Drop at all. Nice job, Apple!
>> : /
>
> I usually use Dropbox when it comes to large attachments.

I typically just shove stuff onto my own web server, since it's local.

> However, I
> just tried an email with a 245MB video attached from my iPhone to one
> of my secondary email addresses on my Mac. I was presented with the
> file too large, use Mail Drop option, so I did. My default email client
> on my Mac is "Mail". The 245MB attachment was sent and received without
> issue.

I haven't ever tried using it on iOS. Maybe it's less buggy there.

> I have a feeling your problem might lie with Google Web Mail.

Nah. I was trying to use it with my own IMAP server. It's just really
buggy. I've disabled Mail Drop as I don't have a need for it anyway.

[Your Name]

In article <2016082710543371806-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>

> I have a feeling your problem might lie with Google Web Mail.

Some of the silly online surveys I do have a "click here" link in their
emails, but also say something along the lines of "if that doesn't
work, copy-paste this link instead" and give the full link. One of the
survey emails does / did specifically mention an email / web browser
that doesn't work, but I haven't got one handy to see which name it
was.

[dorayme]

In article <20160827100340...@comcast.net>,

You can send attachments mostly safely up to a total of 10MB ( a
little less to be surer) with no fancy facilities.

--
dorayme

[Your Name]

In article
<do_ray_me-112D6...@46.sub-75-242-165.myvzw.com>, dorayme

In ye olde days you'd be lucky if a mailbox was 5MB in capacity. :-)
(And that 5MB often also included the ISP's "free" website space.)

[Lewis]

In message <2016082619281015891-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>

Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

Why?

Maildrop works quite well (at least it has for me), and it saves a
complication for the person on the other end, especially if that person
is on a Mac.

It's not something I use very much, but when I need to send something to
my youngest, Maildrop seems to work a lot better for him than anything
else.

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[Savageduck]

On 2016-08-28 10:22:29 +0000, Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said:

> In message <2016082619281015891-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-08-27 01:39:53 +0000, Paul Goodman <good...@comcast.net> said:
>
>>> I sent an email with attachments and it was sent using mail drop as the
>>> size of the attachments exceeded google's outgoing server limit. The
>>> recipient received the email with the message that the attachments
>>> could be downloaded for x amount of days, but when they try and
>>> download, nothing happens. There is a screen that says "don't see the
>>> attachments, try again". Clicking on try again does nothing. Is there
>>> something I have done wrong in the sending process? My system is a
>>> macbook pro, running 10.11.6.
>
>> If the attachments are that big, consider using Dropbox.
>
> Why?

Mail Drop has not been on my radar until this discussion, and DB and
Adobe CC have been my go to tools for whenever I might need to email or
share large files.

> Maildrop works quite well (at least it has for me), and it saves a
> complication for the person on the other end, especially if that person
> is on a Mac.

This prompted me to try Mail Drop for myself and I am happy to have an
additional method to use when needed.
My education continues.

> It's not something I use very much, but when I need to send something to
> my youngest, Maildrop seems to work a lot better for him than anything
> else.

For larger files, or folders of files (mostly fat JPEGs, NEFs, RAFs,
m4v, or MOV) I use Dropbox, and Adobe CC, and have used Box, PogoPlug,
and before those, iTools, .Mac, and MobileMe. Now I can add Mail Drop
to the tool box.


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