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Vijay Menon

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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Hi,

A friend of mine recently inherited a 6100/66 DOS compatible (w/o
manuals or accompanying software) and hasn't yet been able to get dos
programs running. PC setup 1.6.4 has been installed, and it claims
that the PC is running. Yet, when we try to switch to the PC, the Mac
screen just fades until we switch back to the Mac.

Is this possibly a monitor/cable problem? The computer came with one
cable connecting the Mac monitor-out to the monitor. Does the PC
require a second monitor or a special cable?

Also, do we need any special software (i.e, version of DOS or Windows,
drivers to access the floppy/CD)? The Mac didn't come with it. We used
PC setup to create a DOS drive (as a Mac file) on the Mac harddrive. Is
that DOS drive bootable by itself? Or do we need to obtain and install
DOS ourselves?

thanks,

Vijay

Seth Mattinen

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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In article <35BA15...@RsEoMdOaV.Eberkeley.edu>, Vijay Menon
<v...@RsEoMdOaV.Eberkeley.edu> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>A friend of mine recently inherited a 6100/66 DOS compatible (w/o
>manuals or accompanying software) and hasn't yet been able to get dos
>programs running. PC setup 1.6.4 has been installed, and it claims
>that the PC is running. Yet, when we try to switch to the PC, the Mac
>screen just fades until we switch back to the Mac.
>
>Is this possibly a monitor/cable problem? The computer came with one
>cable connecting the Mac monitor-out to the monitor. Does the PC
>require a second monitor or a special cable?

Sounds like you're missing that special double-headed cable that plugged
one monitor into the DOS card and into the Mac's monitor port. If you look
on the back of your computer, you should see the DOS card back there and a
port on it. If there's nothing plugged into it, you're missing the
*required* monitor cable cable. The cable was PowerBook gray, and had four
ends on it: one for the DOS card, one for the Mac monitor port, one to
plug the monitor in to and a game (joystick) port.

>Also, do we need any special software (i.e, version of DOS or Windows,
>drivers to access the floppy/CD)? The Mac didn't come with it. We used
>PC setup to create a DOS drive (as a Mac file) on the Mac harddrive. Is
>that DOS drive bootable by itself? Or do we need to obtain and install
>DOS ourselves?

Yes, it's bootable, but you need to install DOS or windows or some
operating system on it first. If you don't, it just won't boot.

>thanks,
>
>Vijay

~Seth

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Dude Steve

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98
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> Hi,
>
> A friend of mine recently inherited a 6100/66 DOS compatible (w/o
> manuals or accompanying software) and hasn't yet been able to get dos
> programs running. PC setup 1.6.4 has been installed, and it claims
> that the PC is running. Yet, when we try to switch to the PC, the Mac
> screen just fades until we switch back to the Mac.
>
> Is this possibly a monitor/cable problem? The computer came with one
> cable connecting the Mac monitor-out to the monitor. Does the PC
> require a second monitor or a special cable?

You're missing the 'hydra' cable...it's a four-headed cable. One goes to
the HDI-45 video adapter, one goes to the DOS card, one goes to the
monitor, and one goes to a joystick. If you don't have the cable, the
screen fades and just sits there until you switch back to Mac.

> Also, do we need any special software (i.e, version of DOS or Windows,
> drivers to access the floppy/CD)?

Yeah. There's a floppy for the PC side that contains the CD-ROM driver and
a few other things. Floppy and HD access don't need a driver.

> The Mac didn't come with it. We used
> PC setup to create a DOS drive (as a Mac file) on the Mac harddrive. Is
> that DOS drive bootable by itself? Or do we need to obtain and install
> DOS ourselves?

You need to obtain and install DOS yourselves.

> thanks,
>
> Vijay

Good luck.
-Steve

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William E. Krantz, Jr.

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Jul 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/26/98
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I never used the two monitor option with my DOS card, but I think it works
such that if you hook a separate PC monitor onto the back of the DOS card,
then you'd see each processor all the time and you wouldn't have to have
the special hydra cable. At least you could test the DOS side this way.
No?

Bill Krantz
wkr...@voicenet.com

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Chen

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Jul 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/26/98
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Can anyone tell me whether this Dos card is suitable for a Mac Performa
6320?

In article <wkrantz-2507...@dialup648-pri.voicenet.com>,

t-remove-t...@world.std.com

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Jul 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/26/98
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Vijay Menon (v...@RsEoMdOaV.Eberkeley.edu) wrote:
: A friend of mine recently inherited a 6100/66 DOS compatible (w/o

: manuals or accompanying software) and hasn't yet been able to get dos
: programs running. PC setup 1.6.4 has been installed, and it claims
: that the PC is running. Yet, when we try to switch to the PC, the Mac
: screen just fades until we switch back to the Mac.
:
: Is this possibly a monitor/cable problem? The computer came with one
: cable connecting the Mac monitor-out to the monitor. Does the PC
: require a second monitor or a special cable?
:
: Also, do we need any special software (i.e, version of DOS or Windows,
: drivers to access the floppy/CD)? The Mac didn't come with it. We used

: PC setup to create a DOS drive (as a Mac file) on the Mac harddrive. Is
: that DOS drive bootable by itself? Or do we need to obtain and install
: DOS ourselves?

My DOS card died a few weeks ago, I'm currently trying to decide wether
to go with the Newer G3 card or a new G3 Tower.

Anyways, I have the complete documentation, special sooper-dooper
monitor/joystick cable, and DOS and Windows 3.1 that came with the card
if you want to do business. I ran Win95 on it before it died, it was
abysmally slow. You should be able to figure out how to contact me
through email. I'll let you have the whole thing for US$50.00, postal
money order only please, and you pay the shipping since I have no idea
what that would be.

Let me know if you're interested.

--
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
--Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943


t-remove-t...@world.std.com

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Jul 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/26/98
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William E. Krantz, Jr. (wkr...@voicenet.com) wrote:
: I never used the two monitor option with my DOS card, but I think it works
: such that if you hook a separate PC monitor onto the back of the DOS card,
: then you'd see each processor all the time and you wouldn't have to have
: the special hydra cable. At least you could test the DOS side this way.
: No?

No. The port on the back of the DOS card isn't a monitor port, it will
only work with the 4-headed cable. The cable provides the seperate
monitor port and also a joystick port.

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t-remove-t...@world.std.com

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Jul 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/26/98
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Chen (cr...@singnet.com.sg) wrote:
: Can anyone tell me whether this Dos card is suitable for a Mac Performa
: 6320?

Nope, 61xx models only, the xx means it includes Performa 6110 - 6118.

Sorry Tennessee!

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Per Erik Rønne

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Jul 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/26/98
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<t-remove-t...@world.std.com> wrote:

> No. The port on the back of the DOS card isn't a monitor port, it will
> only work with the 4-headed cable. The cable provides the seperate
> monitor port and also a joystick port.

Correctly.

A joystick port instead of a more useful mouse or modem port!
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