Anyway, they were very fond of the "Spider Solitaire" that came
with Windows, so he wants to know where to find something nearly
identical. Since I haven't a clue what Spider Solitaire is,
I can't help.
Suggestions?
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http://www.cetesol.org/stevick.html
> Anyway, they were very fond of the "Spider Solitaire" that came
> with Windows, so he wants to know where to find something nearly
> identical. Since I haven't a clue what Spider Solitaire is,
> I can't help.
I don't know if this might interest them but
<http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16143> 'Solitaire
till Dawn' is pretty good. My wife likes the original Klondike for Mac
and it's available <http://www.casteel.org/>. Both are shareware IIRC.
leo
> Anyway, they were very fond of the "Spider Solitaire" that came
> with Windows, so he wants to know where to find something nearly
> identical. Since I haven't a clue what Spider Solitaire is,
> I can't help.
>
> Suggestions?
http://www.glennsgames.com/ds/ad.html
This guy does games right - I think you friend's inlaws
will be very happy with it.
Billy Y..
Solitaire Till Dawn X includes around 80 solitaire games, including
Spider. I've played versions of it for at least 10 years; it's
rock-solid. If memory serves, the shareware fee is either $15 or $20.
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I've been using Solitaire Plus for years:
On 7/22/08 9:54 PM, in article h3xhk.357$oU.190@trnddc07, "Wes Groleau"
> My New Zealand friend is still on Windows, but he persuaded his
> 80-year-old inlaws to switch to the latest Mac. To give an idea
> of what he's up against, he had to make an alias to Mail called
> "Send" and an alias to TextEdit called "Write"
>
> Anyway, they were very fond of the "Spider Solitaire" that came
> with Windows, so he wants to know where to find something nearly
> identical. Since I haven't a clue what Spider Solitaire is,
> I can't help.
>
> Suggestions?
I like Ultimate Solitaire from DeltaTao:
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> In article <h3xhk.357$oU.190@trnddc07>,
> Wes Groleau <grolea...@freeshell.org> wrote:
>
> > My New Zealand friend is still on Windows, but he persuaded his
> > 80-year-old inlaws to switch to the latest Mac. To give an idea
> > of what he's up against, he had to make an alias to Mail called
> > "Send" and an alias to TextEdit called "Write"
Have you guys ever noticed how some users totally fail to notice the
name of the application they're in? Not just on the Mac either where
you'd think it would be so much more obvious thanks to the Application
menu.
> > Anyway, they were very fond of the "Spider Solitaire" that came
> > with Windows, so he wants to know where to find something nearly
> > identical. Since I haven't a clue what Spider Solitaire is,
> > I can't help.
> >
> > Suggestions?
>
> I like Ultimate Solitaire from DeltaTao:
>
> http://www.deltatao.com/
Seconded. Eric's Ultimate Solitaire is the only Solitaire game I ever
spent any time playing - I usually find Solitaire boring as hell.
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
We have tried the Eric's and it not the same that comes with Windows XP.
My wife refuses to use the Mac until she can get the Window Spider
Solitaire running on a Mac.
Does anyone have an OSX version of the Windows Spider Solitaire? Yes,
I know I could boot under Parallels or one of the other emulators. Not
the same thing
> There are MacOS X Spider solitare games out there but not the "Window
> Spider Solitare" your wife has placed on the table as a dealbreaker.
Are there any differences in the rules of the game between the Windows XP
version of Spider and the various versions available for the Mac? Are we down
to just dealing with a difference in the graphics?
--
James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... talies...@mac.com
If solitaire is her most important app, a Mac would be wasted on her.
There are many good solitaire programs for the Mac (I've liked Klondike
for years), but I think that the Mac is the wrong platform for anyone
whose only interest in a computer is playing card games.
Davoud
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M-M:
> Actually a Windows machine would be the waste since Solitaire would be
> the only thing she would be able to do with it. At least with a Mac, the
> door is open to more.
Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
Windows!?
If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no
equivalent Mac image-capture and processing software):
<http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
Bottom line: Macs and PeeCee's can do a lot more than play solitaire.
But if playing solitaire were all I wanted to do, I wouldn't have a
Mac. In fact, I would probably just buy a deck of playing cards.
[responding to the prior posting in this thread]
> Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
> Windows!?
>
> If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no equivalent
> Mac image-capture and processing software):
> <http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
> capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
>
> Bottom line: Macs and PeeCee's can do a lot more than play solitaire. But
> if playing solitaire were all I wanted to do, I wouldn't have a Mac. In
> fact, I would probably just buy a deck of playing cards.
i took an admittedly quick look at the aforementioned website (as an aside,
fantastic pictures) and didn't see just what it was that a PC could do that a
Mac couldn't.
And, of course, we get into the fuzzy ground where one asks if there is
indeed PC specific software involved if that software can run under one of
the several methods by which Windows based programs can run legally on a
Macintosh.
> Davoud:
> > > If solitaire is her most important app, a Mac would be wasted on her.
>
> M-M:
> > Actually a Windows machine would be the waste since Solitaire would be
> > the only thing she would be able to do with it. At least with a Mac, the
> > door is open to more.
>
> Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
> Windows!?
>
> If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no
> equivalent Mac image-capture and processing software):
> <http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
> capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
Anyone else find it ironic that web site was made on a Mac?
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I find it hard to believe, with the Mac's ability to run Unix software,
that there is no equivalent image capture and processing software that
runs on Macs.
> > Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
> > Windows!?
> >
> > If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no equivalent
> > Mac image-capture and processing software):
> > <http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
> > capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
> >
> > Bottom line: Macs and PeeCee's can do a lot more than play solitaire. But
> > if playing solitaire were all I wanted to do, I wouldn't have a Mac. In
> > fact, I would probably just buy a deck of playing cards.
TaliesinSoft replied
:
> i took an admittedly quick look at the aforementioned website (as an aside,
> fantastic pictures)
<humbly> Thank you very much. </humbly>
> and didn't see just what it was that a PC could do that a
> Mac couldn't.
Ah, well, what Windows can do for an astrophotographer that the Mac OS
cannot is run the following software, all of which I use to aim my
telescope and control a dedicated astronomical CCD camera with
autoguider as I collect and process deep-sky images.
- The ASCOM Platform
- CCDSoft
- CCDStack
- Control software for the FLI PDF Temperature-Compensated Digital
Focuser
- Maxim DL
- PEMPro
- Registar
- TheSky 6
- TPoint
This is scarcely an exhaustive list; it's just the software that I rely
on most often.
On the Mac side, a number of programs can control a telescope mount,
but none is in the league with TheSky 6, which has no competition
whatsoever at the high end of sky mapping/telescope control. Two Mac
programs can control a couple of brands of CCD cameras (out of the many
that exist), and they can perform rudimentary image alignment and
combining, but neither is in the big leagues with CCDSoft and Maxim DL.
There is nothing for the Mac to improve telescope pointing (TPoint) or
provide periodic-error correction (PEMPro). If I were to insist on
using the Mac OS in my observatory on ideological grounds (i.e., cut
off my nose to spite my face) I would need two computers there -- a Mac
and a Windows machine. A Mac running both systems under virtualization
would not do the job because the two OS's can't share device drivers.
Once a drive has loaded in the Mac OS it will not load in Windows
running under virtualization. Final processing on nearly all images is
done with Photoshop CS3 on a Mac; once in a while with Photoshop
Elements under Windows.
So, it must be said that the astrophotos on the miserable little web
site that I cited are made almost entirely on Windows. Sad, but true.
Software Bisque, makers of some of my favorite astronomical software
(CCDSoft, TheSky 6, TPoint) are undertaking a complete re-writing of
the software to support Linux, the Mac OS on Intel processors, and
Windows. The situation is better for lunar and planetary imaging on the
Mac. Check out my friend Alan Friedman's site at
<http://www.avertedimagination.com>. There is some high-end Unix
astronomical software that will run under X11. It requires one to write
scripts as one uses the software; i.e., one has to be a programmer.
That's fine for the pros, who have telescope operators and IT people to
support them, but an amateur can't waste a rare clear night writing
Unix code.
> And, of course, we get into the fuzzy ground where one asks if there is
> indeed PC specific software involved if that software can run under one of
> the several methods by which Windows based programs can run legally on a
> Macintosh.
This is not terribly fuzzy to me. I have two MacBook Pro's, each with
its own retail licenses for XP Pro SP2 and two licenses for VMWare
Fusion (I believe that makes it all legal). "Mac" always has and always
will mean to me "A computer made by Apple that is running the Macintosh
operating system." If I'm running virtualization it's both a Mac and a
PeeCee. If I'm running Windows it's a PeeCee; the Mac contributes
nothing to the process that any other Intel-based machine would not
contribute. Aesthetics don't count for much; I'm working in the dark.
On 7/23/08 10:14 AM, in article
bbcollins-AA8B7...@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net, "Bill"
<bbco...@fake.net> wrote:
That's a great one, as well. I like the weasel.
On 7/24/08 8:35 AM, in article
jollyroger-D0388...@news.individual.net, "Jolly Roger"
<jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <240720080206321951%st...@sky.net>, Davoud <st...@sky.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Davoud:
>>>> If solitaire is her most important app, a Mac would be wasted on her.
>>
>> M-M:
>>> Actually a Windows machine would be the waste since Solitaire would be
>>> the only thing she would be able to do with it. At least with a Mac, the
>>> door is open to more.
>>
>> Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
>> Windows!?
>>
>> If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no
>> equivalent Mac image-capture and processing software):
>> <http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
>> capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
>
> Anyone else find it ironic that web site was made on a Mac?
You caught that too!?! Funny as hell. The Ironyometer pegged...
[responding to my having stated in the preceding posting in this thread]
>> And, of course, we get into the fuzzy ground where one asks if there is
>> indeed PC specific software involved if that software can run under one
>> of the several methods by which Windows based programs can run legally on
>> a Macintosh.
>
> This is not terribly fuzzy to me. I have two MacBook Pro's, each with its
> own retail licenses for XP Pro SP2 and two licenses for VMWare Fusion (I
> believe that makes it all legal). "Mac" always has and always will mean to
> me "A computer made by Apple that is running the Macintosh operating
> system." If I'm running virtualization it's both a Mac and a PeeCee. If
> I'm running Windows it's a PeeCee; the Mac contributes nothing to the
> process that any other Intel-based machine would not contribute.
> Aesthetics don't count for much; I'm working in the dark.
My own definition is "a computer made by Apple which usually runs the
Macintosh operating system but which can also run programs written for other
operating systems such as the various Windows versions".
And, as for "working in the dark", if those pictures are the result, keep on
so working! :-)
(A really, really, dumb guy who is in my killfile) replied:
> > Anyone else find it ironic that web site was made on a Mac?
Then George Kerby added:
> You caught that too!?! Funny as hell. The Ironyometer pegged...
Welcome to CSMS. No CSMS veteran would find that funny or ironic; it is
entirely consistent with my history as a user of microcomputers. CSMS
veterans know I'm a Mac user and a Mac advocate. CSMS veterans know
that my wife and I have 12 Macs, seven of which see frequent use*, and
no Windows-only machines.
CSMS veterans also know that I am not a Microsoft basher, because that
does not make sense. Using the tools that are best suited the job at
hand makes sense. In the job I discussed, deep-sky astrophotography,
that means using Windows, as the Mac OS is not an alternative at this
writing. Would I give up my deep-sky astrophotography hobby because it
requires Windows? Not bloody likely. Will I give up Windows if and when
suitable software comes to the Mac? Absolutely.
For further insight see my reply to TaliesinSoft on this question.
Davoud
*Some are awaiting parts installation or drive sanitizing so that they
may be donated to a school.
On 7/24/08 12:07 PM, in article 240720081307478989%st...@sky.net, "Davoud"
<st...@sky.net> wrote:
> Davoud wrote:
>>>> Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
>>>> Windows!?
>>>>
>>>> If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no
>>>> equivalent Mac image-capture and processing software):
>>>> <http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
>>>> capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
>
> (A really, really, dumb guy who is in my killfile) replied:
>
>>> Anyone else find it ironic that web site was made on a Mac?
>
Sure he's in your killfile, sue he is. Right!
> Then George Kerby added:
>
>> You caught that too!?! Funny as hell. The Ironyometer pegged...
>
> Welcome to CSMS.
I've been here for awhile, but thank you anyway.
>
> CSMS veterans also know that I am not a Microsoft basher, because that
> does not make sense.
I was just agreeing with JR about the thing being put together on a Mac. I
don't give a damn who you bash. BTW: The long rant I snipped was about the
number of Macs you have. Shouldn't that be "I am not a Mac basher"?
>
> Davoud
> Davoud wrote:
> > >> Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
> > >> Windows!?
> > >>
> > >> If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no
> > >> equivalent Mac image-capture and processing software):
> > >> <http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
> > >> capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
>
> (A really, really, dumb guy who is in my killfile) replied:
>
> > > Anyone else find it ironic that web site was made on a Mac?
Well this really, really dumb guy must be an extremely lucky son of a
bitch then, because he's somehow managed to pull the wool over the eyes
of hundreds of people in a large, multi-national semiconductor
manufacturing corporation for the past nine-plus years, and several
well-known, large Mac software companies before that, fooling them all
into paying him very well for years and years, all the while acing every
single performance evaluation he's ever had, getting so many raises he's
lost track, and several promotions to boot - currently functioning as
the infrastructure lead for a huge project affecting the way the entire
company manages information across various business groups! Imagine
that!
...or maybe you're just full of shit... ; )
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> On 7/24/08 12:07 PM, in article 240720081307478989%st...@sky.net, "Davoud"
> <st...@sky.net> wrote:
>
> > Davoud wrote:
> >>>> Do you mean that playing solitaire is the *only* thing one can do on
> >>>> Windows!?
> >>>>
> >>>> If so, I beg to differ. Made with Windows (because there is no
> >>>> equivalent Mac image-capture and processing software):
> >>>> <http://www.primordial-light.com/deepsky.html>. That's right--an image
> >>>> capture and processing realm where the Mac OS need not apply.
> >
> > (A really, really, dumb guy who is in my killfile) replied:
> >
> >>> Anyone else find it ironic that web site was made on a Mac?
> >
> Sure he's in your killfile, sue he is. Right!
Obviously, right? ; )
> > Then George Kerby added:
> >
> >> You caught that too!?! Funny as hell. The Ironyometer pegged...
> >
> > Welcome to CSMS.
>
> I've been here for awhile, but thank you anyway.
Same here. : )
> > CSMS veterans also know that I am not a Microsoft basher, because that
> > does not make sense.
>
> I was just agreeing with JR about the thing being put together on a Mac. I
> don't give a damn who you bash.
Maybe he wants everyone else to killfile *him*...
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Spider is one of the many types of sol that this program plays:
http://www.semicolon.com/stdx.html
I bought a version of this about ten years ago and have been treated to
free upgrades ever since.
Simon.
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