System Profiler
Király
wake my Mac from sleep the LaCie light blinks, the drive makes a
"hiccup" sound, I get the "eject before disconnecting" warning, and
then the drive will finally spin up. The delay started out only being a
few seconds long but it's now up to a minute or more.
I am trying to determine if it is the enclosed drive that is failing (a
3 year old Seagate Barracuda) or the FireWire bridge (7 years old).
System Profiler lists the device correctly as a "LaCie 1394 Disk drive
LUN 0:" whenever the drive is running normally. But when the drive is
in its spin-up hiccup stage, System Profiler reports it as an "unknown
FireWire device".
That to me indicates that the bridge is failing and not the drive. Is
that assumption correct?
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jt august
m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
Profiler is seeing a FW device, and past experience with Spin-up
failures leans me towards the drive going out. Back-up right away, then
deal with replacing the drive.
jt
nospam
<m...@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:
lacie is well known for power supply failures and what you describe
sounds like that's what it is.
the drive itself is more than likely fine, but i would not keep trying
to spin it up until you get a replacement enclosure, and one not from
lacie.
David Empson
From past experience, some but not all cases of drive failure in a
Firewire enclosure will also prevent the enclosure's Firewire bridge
from being identified by the Mac. This means you cannot draw any
conclusions based on that one piece of information.
There are three possible components that might be failing: the drive
itself, the Firewire bridge in the enclosure, or the power supply.
Given the fact that it is LaCie, their history of power supply problems,
and the symptoms, I'd suspect the power supply first.
The drive is the next most likely candidate.
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Király
> lacie is well known for power supply failures and what you describe
> sounds like that's what it is.
Thanks for that. It most definitely is the power supply. I
tried switching the power supplies on my two LaCie drives and the
problem followed the power supply to the other drive.
Warren Oates
m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
> Thanks for that. It most definitely is the power supply. I
> tried switching the power supplies on my two LaCie drives and the
> problem followed the power supply to the other drive.
The power supply in my 1 TB drive failed, still under warranty, and
LaCie had a new one on my desktop in about 6 business days.
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Nick Naym
wrote on 1/3/10 2:17 AM:
I'd wonder about the drive: I don't have the warm-and-fuzzies about Seagate
that I used to have.
Seagate has had a slew of problems these past few years, as evidenced by
posts in its forums as well as user reports on retailer sites like Newegg.
Though not alone in this regard -- overall, drive quality has, IMO,
plummeted because of Industry cost-cutting measures that has resulted in
increasing reliance on economically distressed offshore suppliers -- I have
the sense that Seagate has suffered the most. (The company recently slashed
its 5-year product warranty to 3 years, using the lame excuse that it was
doing so simply to be "more in line with the rest of the industry.")
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Király
> The power supply in my 1 TB drive failed, still under warranty, and
> LaCie had a new one on my desktop in about 6 business days.
Mine is seven years old. Not much chance of even buying a replacement.
I think I'll just junk the enclosure and buy a new external drive.
Warren Oates
m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
> Mine is seven years old. Not much chance of even buying a replacement.
> I think I'll just junk the enclosure and buy a new external drive.
Don't give up on it. Google for LaCie power supplies, or search on the
LaCie site. A new one seems to cost $25 - $40; those enclosures are
pretty well made, worth keeping.
Seven years isn't so bad. Mine was part of a series of failures on
fairly new drives.
Király
> Don't give up on it. Google for LaCie power supplies, or search on the
> LaCie site. A new one seems to cost $25 - $40; those enclosures are
> pretty well made, worth keeping.
Another problem is that the FW bridge chipset is so old that it limits
the enclosed drive size to 128 GB. I have a 250GB Seagate in it now,
and can only access 128GB of it. Spending $40 for what amounts to a
used 128GB drive is just not worth it IMO. I see 250GB FW drives on the
local craigslist for less than that. But thanks for the suggestion.
Warren Oates
m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
>
> Another problem is that the FW bridge chipset is so old that it limits
> the enclosed drive size to 128 GB. I have a 250GB Seagate in it now,
> and can only access 128GB of it. Spending $40 for what amounts to a
> used 128GB drive is just not worth it IMO. I see 250GB FW drives on the
> local craigslist for less than that. But thanks for the suggestion.
I wasn't aware of that restriction. It's like my ol' Sawtooth, only
takes 128 gigs internally. There's a 3rd party driver to increase that,
but I was warned off it, as I recall.
Jolly Roger
m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
This is why I shun LaCie enclosures.
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Warren Oates <warren...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <0U40n.60164$PH1.40076@edtnps82>,
> m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Kir�ly) wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that. It most definitely is the power supply. I
> > tried switching the power supplies on my two LaCie drives and the
> > problem followed the power supply to the other drive.
>
> The power supply in my 1 TB drive failed, still under warranty, and
> LaCie had a new one on my desktop in about 6 business days.
That's likely because they have a well-established procedure for
handling failed power supplies because they have tons of problems with
them.
Wes Groleau
> m...@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:
>> nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> lacie is well known for power supply failures and what you describe
>>> sounds like that's what it is.
>> Thanks for that. It most definitely is the power supply. I
>> tried switching the power supplies on my two LaCie drives and the
>> problem followed the power supply to the other drive.
>
> This is why I shun LaCie enclosures.
Would this be a likely explanation for a LaCie drive at work
which is frequently shown in Windows as "unknown device" but
which always works on the Mac?
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Warren Oates
Wes Groleau <Grolea...@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> Would this be a likely explanation for a LaCie drive at work
> which is frequently shown in Windows as "unknown device" but
> which always works on the Mac?
It's more likely that Winders can't "see" the HFS+ volume(s).