Super Duper mystery

[bob smith]

So, I'm using Super Duper to clone my hard drive.

I noticed that it allows me to use my PC while it is cloning it.

This seems like it could easily be a source of errors.

I think programs like Ghost don't allow you to use your PC while it is cloning so the image doesn't change as it is copying.

Am I missing something here?

Or do people just only use their Mac lightly during a clone and hope the image doesn't get messed up?

Thanks.

[David Ryeburn]

In article <12d0fa67-f109-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,

bob smith <b...@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:

> So, I'm using Super Duper to clone my hard drive.
>
> I noticed that it allows me to use my PC while it is cloning it.
>
> This seems like it could easily be a source of errors.
>
> I think programs like Ghost don't allow you to use your PC while it is
> cloning so the image doesn't change as it is copying.
>
> Am I missing something here?

Perhaps the assumption is that Windows users aren't smart enough to
avoid using the computer while doing this, so they have to be kept from
using the computer, while Mac users have more sense. I, for one, don't
think much of the "we know what's best for you" attitude.

David

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[bi...@mix.com]

bob smith <b...@coolfone.comze.com> writes:

> So, I'm using Super Duper to clone my hard drive.
>
> I noticed that it allows me to use my PC while it is cloning it.
>
> This seems like it could easily be a source of errors.

I don't think I'd say easily, but could you change something
after it's been copied? Yes.

I prefer to backup with the system in a quiescent state (at
least as far as user activity goes). It only takes about 10
minutes in the update mode.

Billy Y..
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[dorayme]

In article <12d0fa67-f109-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,
bob smith <b...@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:

I don't do anything on the computer when backing up using it, in fact
I all but log out and check my hard disk before doing so, its file
system integrity and then just leave it to do its job. I drink tea you
see and am always happy to go and do that.

--
dorayme

[George Kerby]

On 5/24/13 12:46 AM, in article knmuro$cmj$2...@reader1.panix.com,

"bi...@MIX.COM" <bi...@MIX.COM> wrote:

> bob smith <b...@coolfone.comze.com> writes:
>
>> So, I'm using Super Duper to clone my hard drive.
>>
>> I noticed that it allows me to use my PC while it is cloning it.
>>
>> This seems like it could easily be a source of errors.
>
> I don't think I'd say easily, but could you change something
> after it's been copied? Yes.
>
> I prefer to backup with the system in a quiescent state (at
> least as far as user activity goes). It only takes about 10
> minutes in the update mode.
>
> Billy Y..

I even take it to the point of turning off Time Machine when I am backing up
to SD.

[bob smith]

Well, even if you don't use your computer, the computer could quite possibly "use itself". I would think there are probably many automated processes going on in the background that could possibly be making significant changes to the file system. It would be nice if there was software like Super Duper that didn't allow anything else to run.

Thanks.

[nospam]

In article <a9744248-2f9d-49bc...@googlegroups.com>, bob

it turns out it doesn't really matter.

however, it it concerns you, boot off a third drive and then clone your
original drive to a backup drive.

[Davoud]

bob smith:

>
> > So, I'm using Super Duper to clone my hard drive.
> >
> > I noticed that it allows me to use my PC while it is cloning it.
> >
> > This seems like it could easily be a source of errors.
> >
> > I think programs like Ghost don't allow you to use your PC while it is
> > cloning so the image doesn't change as it is copying.
> >
> > Am I missing something here?

David:

> Perhaps the assumption is that Windows users aren't smart enough to
> avoid using the computer while doing this, so they have to be kept from
> using the computer, while Mac users have more sense. I, for one, don't
> think much of the "we know what's best for you" attitude.

I don't have the sense to stop working or to stop saving files while
SuperDuper clones my Mac drives once daily. What SD does about that I
know not, but the program works, so I'm guessing that the SD developers
know what's best for me, and I'm satisfied with that.

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[bi...@mix.com]

Michael Vilain <vil...@nospamcop.net> writes:

> You want Stand-Along Backup for VMS.

Stand-Alone.

> Then I guess you should be running VMS.

I am. Heh.

[Alan Browne]

On 2013.05.23 21:10 , David Ryeburn wrote:
> In article <12d0fa67-f109-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,
> bob smith <b...@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
>
>> So, I'm using Super Duper to clone my hard drive.
>>
>> I noticed that it allows me to use my PC while it is cloning it.
>>
>> This seems like it could easily be a source of errors.
>>
>> I think programs like Ghost don't allow you to use your PC while it is
>> cloning so the image doesn't change as it is copying.
>>
>> Am I missing something here?
>
> Perhaps the assumption is that Windows users aren't smart enough to
> avoid using the computer while doing this, so they have to be kept from
> using the computer, while Mac users have more sense. I, for one, don't
> think much of the "we know what's best for you" attitude.

I think Bob's concern is for the "frozen" state of the copy. If using
the Mac during the copy then the disk is unavoidably changed while the
copy is being made. At the end the copy is not the same as the new state
of the system disk. It probably does not matter for his purpose.

But I don't know if it really matters for what he wants to do - but I do
understand his concern and request for clarity or guidance.

As to your Windows reference I'm baffled. He's talking about cloning
his Mac disk.

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"David Ryeburn" wrote in message
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In article <12d0fa67-f109-4ca5...@googlegroups.com>,
bob smith <b...@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:

> So, I'm using Super Duper to clone my hard drive.
>
> I noticed that it allows me to use my PC while it is cloning it.
>
> This seems like it could easily be a source of errors.
>
> I think programs like Ghost don't allow you to use your PC while it
> is
> cloning so the image doesn't change as it is copying.
>
> Am I missing something here?

>Perhaps the assumption is that Windows users aren't smart enough to
>avoid using the computer while doing this, so they have to be kept
>from
>using the computer, while Mac users have more sense. I, for one,
>don't
>think much of the "we know what's best for you" attitude.

Yeah, you're a legend...in you own little pea brain.