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jt august

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Aug 1, 2008, 12:09:55 AM8/1/08
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I need a PowerLogix Firmware Update CD for the G4 AGP (Sawtooth) towers.
I got a CPU through eBay and the seller didn't send a CD. I talked with
OWC tonight (they bought out PowerLogix) and they no longer have any
copies to send out. There is an install CD image on their web site, but
I downloaded it twice and tried burning it a couple ways, but neither
way worked, The tech support guy at OWC said I needed to go out on the
internet to find either an original copy of the CD of a burned
duplicate. This is the CD that has the manuals in electronic form and
demo videos. If anyone can help me with getting a good copy or original
manufacturer's copy, I would be most grateful.

jt
star...@sbcglobal.net

Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Aug 1, 2008, 3:34:01 AM8/1/08
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I'm probably too far away to be of any help. Post your general location and
the URL of the CD image on their web site. There probably is someone near
you who can download it and successfully burn it for you, or may already
have it.

I did a quick search of their web site and could not find it, in hope of
looking at the image and being able to give you some hints.

Geoff.


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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM

jt august

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Aug 1, 2008, 7:41:39 PM8/1/08
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In article <slrng95eu...@cable.mendelson.com>,

Geoff.

I am in St. Louis. The url for the PowerLogix d/l's is:
http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/processors.cfm
You need to then click on the PowerLogix tab. The CD d/l is the link
reading:
Powerlogix Software CD

The URL for the CD d/l itself is:
http://home2.owc.net/~tech/Processors/Powerlogix/PLGMANUNIVCD.zip

When I burned this myself using Disk Utility, I got a system folder of
only 32K. In it are three folders:
PLROM 20 KB Unix Executable File
Finder Zero KB Finder
System 4 KB Finder Document

The techie as OWC said that those numbers are definitely not right, but
he could not come up with an answer on what I did wrong. The only thing
he could offer up was that Toast might be needed to burn this properly.

jt

Király

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Aug 2, 2008, 1:25:10 PM8/2/08
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jt august <star...@net.att> wrote:
> When I burned this myself using Disk Utility, I got a system folder of
> only 32K. In it are three folders:
> PLROM 20 KB Unix Executable File
> Finder Zero KB Finder
> System 4 KB Finder Document
>
> The techie as OWC said that those numbers are definitely not right, but
> he could not come up with an answer on what I did wrong.

I downloaded the image, mounted it without burning, and see the same
thing as you in that folder.

Are you expecting the disc to be bootable? There is definitely no OS X
system on this disk image. "System Folder" as opposed to just
"System" indicates an OS 9 or earlier system. Can your G4 boot OS 9?

When you say you tried to burn it and "it didn't work", what exactly do
you mean? What actually happened and what were you expecting to happen?

--
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Aug 2, 2008, 4:19:02 PM8/2/08
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jt august wrote:
> I am in St. Louis. The url for the PowerLogix d/l's is:
> http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/processors.cfm
> You need to then click on the PowerLogix tab. The CD d/l is the link
> reading:
> Powerlogix Software CD
>
> The URL for the CD d/l itself is:
> http://home2.owc.net/~tech/Processors/Powerlogix/PLGMANUNIVCD.zip
>
> When I burned this myself using Disk Utility, I got a system folder of
> only 32K. In it are three folders:
> PLROM 20 KB Unix Executable File
> Finder Zero KB Finder
> System 4 KB Finder Document

Ok, It's almost 11 PM here and I cheated. I happen to be using a Linux
system at the moment, so I looked at the disk using it.

First I downloaded it. It turns out to be a ZIP file. I uncompressed it
with unzip, you can use Stuffit expander to unzip it.

The resulting file was called "PLGUNIVMAN.dmg" It's a compressed disk
image file, which needs to be read with Disk Utility. If you have a
Linux/UNIX system, you can convert it to a regular ISO file using dmg2img
a public domain utility you can find somewhere on the Internet.

However, Disk Utility reads it without any problem. You should be able
to either burn the image to a CD, or open it and read the files directly.

The disk image itself is an HFS+ image. In order to read it, you need
MacOS 8.6 or later. If you try to read it on an older Mac or a Windows
computer, it will be unreadable. I know that's not what you are trying
to read it on, but I say it just in case you tried to read it on another
computer.

The zip file is 178 megabytes, and the uncompressed image file
is 211 megabytes.

Disk utility has an option to convert a compressed disk image as an
uncompressed ISO file. Try that and then burn it with toast.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Aug 5, 2008, 1:34:02 PM8/5/08
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
>
> First I downloaded it. It turns out to be a ZIP file. I uncompressed it
> with unzip, you can use Stuffit expander to unzip it.
>
> The resulting file was called "PLGUNIVMAN.dmg" It's a compressed disk
> image file, which needs to be read with Disk Utility.

Ok, I was finaly able to get to a Mac with a CD burner and OSX. Since
I already downlaoded the file and unziped it, I copied the .dmg file to
my Mac.

I opened Disk Utility, pulled down images and selected burn. It asked me
to select and image and I selected the .dmg file. It then opened the CD
drive and asked for a blank. I put one in and it burned and verified the disk.

I stuck it back in the drive, and OSX opens it and shows me lots of directories.

If you have not been able to burn the CD email me off line and I'll mail it to
you expect at least a week, possibly two for the mail to get there and
possibly as much time for me to get to a post office.

jt august

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Nov 21, 2008, 8:37:26 AM11/21/08
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I wanted the to thank the collective membership here for some help with
my problem. I had purchased a cpu via eBay that had been misrepresented
as new in the box, complete with warranty. It was used, loose, no box,
no dox, and not well wrapped for shipping. It was also a PowerLogix
cpu, and PL doesn't exist anymore. OWC took over its assets, but when I
contacted them for the needed CD, they had no more in stock to ship.

I tried downloading the disk and burning my own copy, but I could not
make a bootable CD. As a result of posts here, two gentlemen, Steve
Teng and Michael Brown, sent me a copy of their CD's. For reasons I
cannot explain, I could not get one of the CDs to boot, and the other
one was bootable not by pressing C but by going through open firmware.
Going that way, I finally got the patches installed.

The CPU was advertsied as a 1.2 Ghtz G4, at one point I thought it might
be a 1.4, but now that it is running, it is a 1.2.

I won't bother posting any bad seller report on the guy, because while I
was pursuing a partial refund via PayPal, the clown got booted off eBay
completely, and his account on PayPal was frozen pending dispute
resolution. I got my requested refund of $122 from my original $157
(which included shipping), so my net cost for this upgrade was $35. And
the guy e-mailed me once after the dust settled with a very vile, angry
message demanding I return the cpu I stole from him. I forwarded it
from eBay and they told me that it was being forwarded to the proper
departments, and to let them know if any further contact occurred. It
hasn't, and I finally go the time to sit down and get the cpu working
this week (playing daddy/hubby has kept me excessively busy).

Again, to those who guided me here, and specifically to Steve and
Michael, I thank you all most graciously.

jt

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jt august

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Nov 21, 2008, 11:18:03 PM11/21/08
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In article <vilain-598E67....@feeder.motzarella.org>,
Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> After 6 months with a lot of CPU hangs and daily reboots (what is this,
> Windows?) I finally put my system back the way it was with the original
> CPU and firmware. It's rock-solid stable now. But I'm out $700+ for
> this upgrade.
>
> Yes, I could sell it, but the buyer would have the same problems I did.
> And none of the PPC Linux distros I tried booted from the thing. So,
> it's a paperweight.

I haven't had a single crash since I did the upgrade. The Fates must be
smiling upon me.

jt

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jt august

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Nov 22, 2008, 4:24:14 AM11/22/08
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In article <vilain-F9413A....@feeder.motzarella.org>,
Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> No kernel panics (that's what I consider a crash). Just random
> applications like DragThing, iCal, Little Snitch, Safari, and others I
> don't recall all either quitting with a core dump and access violation
> or just causing the CPU to crazy. Sampling the run-away process always
> pointed to something deep in the MacOS Kernel. Maybe the dual processor
> configuration of this beast has problems.

Again, I have had no problems like that. I've been dinking around with
iLife, Safari, and for the first time since I went OS X, MAME runs sweet.

I will say that I have a single core cpu. My machine's motherboard
won't do dual.

jt

Warren Oates

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Nov 22, 2008, 7:11:56 AM11/22/08
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In article <starsabre-54E6A...@inetnews.worldnet.att.net>,
jt august <star...@net.att> wrote:

> Again, I have had no problems like that. I've been dinking around with
> iLife, Safari, and for the first time since I went OS X, MAME runs sweet.
>
> I will say that I have a single core cpu. My machine's motherboard
> won't do dual.

I put a 1.6 gHz PowerLogix single-processor upgrade into my Sawtooth G4
about 2 years ago, and it's been running flawlessly ever since. Trust
me, the oul' Woman opens all her CS2 apps and her email and her browsers
all the time and has a gazillion windows open in each one, and the thing
just runs flawlessly. We just got her a Macbook Pro, so I installed
Leopard (with all the upgrades) onto the Sawtooth, and moved it into the
living room for a jukebox and it seems pretty snappy. The old video card
won't drive my 37" tv at full screen but.
--
W. Oates

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