Turn off smart quotes in TextEdit?
Tim Murray
tried different encodings, too. I see no option for this in preferences, or,
is it an encoding issue? I need to do a few files that are very "generic".
Thanks.
Jeremy Nixon
Any idea how you got TextEdit to do smart quotes in the first place? It
doesn't seem to offer that as an option. So, like, whatever you did to
make them happen, do the opposite. :) I use a third-party program that
creates this feature (Spell Catcher X).
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David Opstad
Tim Murray <no-...@thankyou.com> wrote:
While you are seeing smart quotes, that doesn't mean the backing store
has smart quotes. The typographic system in OS X does visual effects
that don't necessarily reflect back to the underlying string.
If you're on 10.3, you can turn them off visually by going to the
Typography window (it's available in the gear-icon menu). There should
be a checkbox there for smart quotes you can toggle as needed.
Dave
Wes Groleau
> If you're on 10.3, you can turn them off visually by going to the
> Typography window (it's available in the gear-icon menu). There should
> be a checkbox there for smart quotes you can toggle as needed.
Gear-icon menu? As in Finder preferences?
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Jeremy Nixon
> David Opstad wrote:
>
>> If you're on 10.3, you can turn them off visually by going to the
>> Typography window (it's available in the gear-icon menu). There should
>> be a checkbox there for smart quotes you can toggle as needed.
>
> Gear-icon menu? As in Finder preferences?
In the Font panel. I'd forgotten about that, myself, when I couldn't
figure out how the original poster got smart quotes in the first place...
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Jeremy Nixon <jer...@exit109.com> wrote:
To save anyone else so noobish as to spend 10-15 minutes searching as I
did: Apple's buried this panel/pane a coupla layers
down--TextEdit>Format>Font>Show Fonts [Now at last you get the
pane/panel] GearWheel i.e. Advanced by the usual convention.
But when I finally got the Typography window the only thing there was an
option for "Common ligatures". Presumably one is to understand "Use.../Do
not use..." (Apple used to do this sort of thing so elegantly, as well as
a lot more efficiently)
Anyway: Is there a trick to making the smart quotes option appear here?
Or have I still not found the right place to look?
TIA
Jeremy Nixon
> But when I finally got the Typography window the only thing there was an
> option for "Common ligatures". Presumably one is to understand "Use.../Do
> not use..." (Apple used to do this sort of thing so elegantly, as well as
> a lot more efficiently)
> Anyway: Is there a trick to making the smart quotes option appear here?
> Or have I still not found the right place to look?
The Typography panel only shows options supported by the current font; so
the smart quotes will only appear if the font you're using supports that.
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Tim Murray
(in article <opstad-CC25D7....@news-central.ash.giganews.com>):
> While you are seeing smart quotes, that doesn't mean the backing store
> has smart quotes. The typographic system in OS X does visual effects
> that don't necessarily reflect back to the underlying string.
Yes, I took at look at a file in HexEdit and it's a plain straight quote.
> If you're on 10.3, you can turn them off visually by going to the
> Typography window (it's available in the gear-icon menu).
Does that do anything for you? For me, whether it's enabled or not (and I
even exited after changing it): (1) I always see curly quotes; (2) a typed ',
while showing a curly, saves a good old straight 0x27, and I tried seven
encoding methods.
David Opstad
Tim Murray <no-...@thankyou.com> wrote:
> Does that do anything for you? For me, whether it's enabled or not (and I
> even exited after changing it): (1) I always see curly quotes; (2) a typed ',
> while showing a curly, saves a good old straight 0x27, and I tried seven
> encoding methods.
Which font are you using, just out of curiosity? It may be that TextEdit
is doing some processing independent of the typographic effects
controlled by the tables in the font (and by the checkbox in the
Typography panel).
Dave
LeFly
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> I do not see a gear icon menu in TextEdit with Panther. I have TextEdit
> 1.3 (v202) on my machine.
It's in the text-palette. Hit pretzel-T in TextEdit and make the palette
wide enough, you'll see it in the left hand corner.
Try the 'Typograpy' entry in the menu with some text set in Hoefler
Text, preferably in a big size (36 or more). This font is Apple's
showcase for stuff like ligatures (try words that contain 'st', like
'stay' for instance with the 'Rare Ligatures' option turned on), tabular
numbers, old style numbers etc.
Rummage around, it's quite impressive...
Arthur
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Tim Murray
(in article <opstad-A4F791....@news-central.ash.giganews.com>):
> Which font are you using, just out of curiosity? It may be that TextEdit
> is doing some processing independent of the typographic effects
> controlled by the tables in the font (and by the checkbox in the
> Typography panel).
Monaco. It shows curly quotes in both directions (L/R). For Type 1 Helvetica,
the Typography panel won't let me choose anything -- it says it's not
available for this font.
David Opstad
Tim Murray <no-...@thankyou.com> wrote:
> For Type 1 Helvetica, the Typography panel won't let me choose
> anything -- it says it's not available for this font.
The Typography panel isn't available for that font because it doesn't
have any of the tables that drive the layout engine. So if you're seeing
smart quotes for this Type 1 Helvetica font, then TextEdit (or some
Cocoa software it uses) is doing the substitutions, not the layout
engine.
Dave
Simon Slavin
<106v866...@corp.supernews.com>:
> Any idea how you got TextEdit to do smart quotes in the first place?
They're not real smart quotes, it's just a visual effect supplied by
the font he's using. When the file is stored they're saved as normal
quotes.
The effect can be turned off using the Font menu, picking characteristics
of the font itself.
Simon.
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Simon Slavin
<d30deeb61a7d91d6...@news.teranews.com>:
> Anyway: Is there a trick to making the smart quotes option appear here?
> Or have I still not found the right place to look?
There's unlikely to be an option specifically marked 'smartquotes'.
It's more likely to be one of the variant effects of the font you've
chosen. If you turn them all off then the quotes should become
normal.
thurtado
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