Switching from Windows to Mac
keith....@gmail.com
advice on switching platforms. I've already burned data, email stuff
and music to disc. Will my Mac be able to read these files, or is
there something special I'll need to do. Most important, I'm 450 pages
into my second novel, written in Word. Will Appleworks open a .doc
file, maintaining formatting, or do I need to buy a Mac Office program?
Any other hints or tips or web links would be appreciated. Thanks.
Mystras
could open your word files but I suggest to buy the M$ office
macversion. Music is not a problem too I don't know how to convert your
email to a mac program.
Mystras
is free.
Bev A. Kupf
Mystras (bb...@gmx.net) wrote:
> No No open office works only with the X 11 window system on mac and it
> is free.
For those who thrive on the cutting edge, there's also NeoOffice -- the
"native" OpenOffice port to OS X. Native in that it doesn't use an X-server
to display its windows.
<http://www.neooffice.org>
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Charles Dyer
(in article <1102433964....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
> This past weekend, I ordered a G4 from Overstock and would like some
> advice on switching platforms. I've already burned data, email stuff
> and music to disc. Will my Mac be able to read these files, or is
> there something special I'll need to do.
Macs will be able to see the files. Whether you can actually do anything with
them will depend on what kind of files they are. Acrobat files, .jpgs, .txts,
.rtfs, .docs, those kind of file, should be okay. You'll have problems with
Access and FrontPage files.
> Most important, I'm 450 pages
> into my second novel, written in Word. Will Appleworks open a .doc
> file,
Yes, no problem.
> maintaining formatting,
If you have corresponding fonts, _most_ formatting should be okay. Your pages
may flow slightly differently, as fonts on Macs are _not_ one-for-one
identical with fonts on Windows, even when both sets of fonts are Mickeysoft
fonts.
Also, depending on how you set things up, things like header and footer slugs
and table-of-contents flows will change, in part because of the differing
page flows. If you used special characters such as the Windows ... symbol,
you'll have to do a global search and replace to put in the Mac version.
Note that any Word macros you may use will _not_ work.
Alternatively, you can copy the Windows TrueType or PostScript fonts you
normally use over to your Mac; OS X will use Windows fonts. I'm not sure how
OS X will display the fonts. Ordinary characters will show up correctly, but
special characters may not.
> or do I need to buy a Mac Office program?
Mickeysoft sells three versions of Office 2004 for OS X:
1 the 'standard' version, consisting of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and
Entourage. US$400. Upgradeable.
2 the 'student' version, identical to the standard version except that you
can't upgrade it, US$150.
3 the 'premium' version, which is the standard version plus Virtual PC,
US$500.
See further <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/>
You can also get OpenOffice, which is free but clunky. Given a choice between
AppleWorks and OpenOffice, I'd go with AppleWorks every time.
> Any other hints or tips or web links would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
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Thomas Reed
<"keith....@gmail.com"> wrote:
> I've already burned data, email stuff
> and music to disc. Will my Mac be able to read these files, or is
> there something special I'll need to do.
Others have already given pretty good answers to these, but I thought
I'd try to hit a few spots that I think were missed.
Music means, I presume, MP3 files, correct? If so, your Mac will read
them just fine. If you mean AIFF or WAV your Mac will also read them
just fine. Heck, just about whatever they are, your Mac will read them
just fine! :-)
E-mail depends on the e-mail client. Were you using Entourage, Outlook
Express, Netscape, Mozilla or Eudora? If so, the built in mail client
in Mac OS X (called, imaginatively enough, Mail) will import them.
Anything else, I'm not sure how you'd import it. Of course, there are
also many other e-mail clients for the Mac, like Entourage, Netscape,
Mozilla, Eudora... See the pattern? :-) (Note the conspicuous
absence of that abomination Outlook Express... I doubt it will be
missed.)
> Most important, I'm 450 pages
> into my second novel, written in Word. Will Appleworks open a .doc
> file, maintaining formatting, or do I need to buy a Mac Office program?
Depending on how complex your formatting is, TextEdit (which comes with
your new computer) will open a MS Word document. It's a bit simple,
though.
--
-Thomas
David Magda
> M$ office macversion. Music is not a problem too I don't know how
> to convert your email to a mac program.
More specifically, music will not be a problem if it's MP3 files
(filename ends in ".mp3"). Some other formats may be an issue, and
you may have to download software (e.g., Microsoft's Media Player).
--
David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>, http://www.magda.ca/
Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI
Carl Witthoft
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <1102433964....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "keith....@gmail.com" <keith....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Will Appleworks open a .doc file, maintaining formatting, or do I
> > need to buy a Mac Office program?
>
> It will open the file, but you *may* have to tweak the formatting a bit.
>
> You can get MS Office, student edition, for $149 at your local Apple
> store; they do not ask for any proof of student status. There is also
> Open Office; I think its price is comparable.
Comparable? It's free for goshsake! You do have to install the X11
environment.
David Magda
> This past weekend, I ordered a G4 from Overstock and would like
> some advice on switching platforms. I've already burned data,
> email stuff and music to disc. Will my Mac be able to read these
For e-mail from Outlook you may want to look at the program mentioned
in this post:
http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/2004/12/outlook2mac/index.php
Madwen
"keith....@gmail.com" <keith....@gmail.com> wrote:
Mellel, another word processor for the Mac, opens doc files fairly well
in my experience with some technical exceptions. Mellel was developed
specifically for writers and lengthy works. You might want to try out
the demo just for the heck of it, especially since the price is so good.
It does not have all the features of Word but I find it works quite well
for some book length projects. (For others, I still use WordPerfect
which is no longer being developed for the Mac, sadly) And if you ever
do non-fiction, Mellel has the advantage of linking to "Bookends" which
is very nice bibliographic software for the Mac.
David Butenhof
> On 7 Dec 2004 08:30:06 -0800,
> Mystras (bb...@gmx.net) wrote:
>
>>No No open office works only with the X 11 window system on mac and it
>>is free.
>
> For those who thrive on the cutting edge, there's also NeoOffice -- the
> "native" OpenOffice port to OS X. Native in that it doesn't use an X-server
> to display its windows.
> <http://www.neooffice.org>
NeoOffice/J is very stable and reliable. You don't need anything but the
NeoOffice application; no X11, no Oroboros, etc. The big advantages over
the X11 OpenOffice.org are that it uses native Mac OS X fonts and print
dialog. Disadvantages are minor; mainly that the Java GUI system doesn't
currently support scroll wheels, whereas the X11 version does. (If you
really rely on a scroll wheel, this'll drive you bonkers until you
adjust; and I still find myself twiddling the wheel before I remember it
won't work.)
The NeoOffice/J GUI still looks more like an X11 app than a native Mac
OS X app. The toolbars are different, the windows are different; and
that can be very "unsettling" for some people.
--
Dave Butenhof, David.B...@hp.com
HP Utility Pricing software, POSIX thread consultant
Manageability Solutions Lab (MSL), Hewlett-Packard Company
110 Spit Brook Road, ZK2/3-Q18, Nashua, NH 03062
George Johnson
<mad...@onomatopaeia.com> wrote:
> Mellel, another word processor for the Mac, opens doc files fairly well
Also Nisus.
--
George Johnson
johnson AT santafe DOT edu
http://talaya.net
Darrell Greenwood
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For whatever it is worth, from
http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/
> MS Word Document Import and Export -> Import basic Microsoft Word .DOC
> documents to TextEdit.
Cheers,
Darrell
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packages. Only it doesn't open word documents. It just makes
beautiful books and articles.
'cid 'ooh
Darrell Greenwood
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And this may be of interest
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/switchmacmm/
Cheers,
Darrell
In article <1102433964....@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<"keith....@gmail.com"> wrote:
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Buttwipejwolf
"native" OpenOffice port to OS X. Native in that it doesn't use an X-server
to display its windows.
<http://www.neooffice.org> >>
no what you say is wrong moron!
guess what I went back to my diapers and I repoosted all my floppies up on the
wall for you. Hey I even have a diaper and a floppy wall!!!!
jwolf