Independence Day <the movie> and System 8
he...@cyberselsi.com
Just having come back from seeing the movie ID4, i thought you might like
to know somethings. As you may or may not know, apple has taken a stake in
this moive as they did with Mission Impossible. They used macs for the
government and Jeff Goldblum's character uses a powerbook. And on this
powerbook, is the gui of Copland, with 3d effects. It looked pretty cool.
Greg Berigan
he...@cyberselsi.com wrote:
Although the IBM logo also made a prominent appearance.
Actually, after noticing the IBM logo, I found myself not noticing the
product placement. I'm not sure if this is a good or a bad thing. :-)
--
_-<#)-=# http://cse.unl.edu/~gberigan/War-of-the-Worlds.html
___/___
_-~_--<###) "No animals or aliens were harmed in the making of this movie."
<~c>' __--< -- Independence Day (ID4) closing credit regarding
\_--=____#) the Humane Society
Andy Bates
In article <hegsl-03079...@news.cybercomm.net>,
he...@cyberselsi.com wrote:
> Just having come back from seeing the movie ID4, i thought you might like
> to know somethings. As you may or may not know, apple has taken a stake in
> this moive as they did with Mission Impossible. They used macs for the
> government and Jeff Goldblum's character uses a powerbook. And on this
> powerbook, is the gui of Copland, with 3d effects. It looked pretty cool.
I noticed this as well, although it could have been Aaron on that Powerbook.
Isn't it nice that the aliens use a standard AppleTalk interface? I guess
that's one example of how the aliens are smarter than us.
Andy Bates.
Gregory D. Landweber
In article <4re6fp$4...@crcnis3.unl.edu>, gber...@cse.unl.edu (Greg
Berigan) wrote:
>>Just having come back from seeing the movie ID4, i thought you might like
>>to know somethings. As you may or may not know, apple has taken a stake in
>>this moive as they did with Mission Impossible. They used macs for the
>>government and Jeff Goldblum's character uses a powerbook. And on this
>>powerbook, is the gui of Copland, with 3d effects. It looked pretty cool.
I expect they were using Aaron.
-- Greg Landweber
gr...@math.harvard.edu
Gregory D. Landweber
In article <bates_andy-03...@news.tandem.com>,
bates...@tandem.com (Andy Bates) wrote:
>I noticed this as well, although it could have been Aaron on that Powerbook.
I hope so. I wouldn't want to be fighting aliens with prerelease system
software...
-- Greg Landweber
gr...@math.harvard.edu
Flower
Gregory D. Landweber (gr...@math.harvard.edu) wrote:
: In article <bates_andy-03...@news.tandem.com>,
: bates...@tandem.com (Andy Bates) wrote:
:
: >I noticed this as well, although it could have been Aaron on that Powerbook.
:
: I hope so. I wouldn't want to be fighting aliens with prerelease system
: software...
Aaahhh. But the question is, if it WAS Aaron, did they register it?
;)
--
Erika Smith er...@mtu.edu
http://www.mm.mtu.edu/~erika
Frank Taylor
In article <4renmn$7...@dolphin15.me>, er...@mtu.edu (Flower) wrote:
-> Gregory D. Landweber (gr...@math.harvard.edu) wrote:
-> : In article <bates_andy-03...@news.tandem.com>,
-> : bates...@tandem.com (Andy Bates) wrote:
-> :
-> : >I noticed this as well, although it could have been Aaron on that
Powerbook.
-> :
-> : I hope so. I wouldn't want to be fighting aliens with prerelease system
-> : software...
-> :
->
-> Aaahhh. But the question is, if it WAS Aaron, did they register it?
-> ;)
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I think they gave Greg a bit part as an alien in lew of the $10.
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Frank Taylor
<mailto:fra...@qni.com>
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Arlo Rose
In article <greg-03079...@fas-news.harvard.edu>,
gr...@math.harvard.edu (Gregory D. Landweber) wrote:
> I expect they were using Aaron.
Actually, the movie folks contact us (Apple) and we help 'em out. We tend
to give 'em screen shots, and souped up versions of Aaron that we use
internally, for screen shot purposes only.
Cheers,
Arlo Rose
_____________________________________________________________________
Apple Computer, Inc. ro...@apple.com
Human Interface Design Center ar...@rcontinuum.com
Edwin ten Dam
In article <greg-03079...@fas-news.harvard.edu>,
gr...@math.harvard.edu (Gregory D. Landweber) wrote:
>In article <bates_andy-03...@news.tandem.com>,
>bates...@tandem.com (Andy Bates) wrote:
>
>>I noticed this as well, although it could have been Aaron on that Powerbook.
>
>I hope so. I wouldn't want to be fighting aliens with prerelease system
>software...
I don't know about that. Apparently Bungie's has ported a test version of
Marathon to Apple's new Game Sprockets games API. It's supposed to rock
(would we expect anything else?).
Edwin
Edwin ten Dam eb...@cam.ac.uk
Division of Virology - University of Cambridge
Tennis Court Road, Cambridge CB2 1QP, U.K.
Phone: +44 1223 336918 - Fax: +44 1223 336926
Glenn R. Howes
In article <greg-03079...@fas-news.harvard.edu> Gregory D.
Landweber, gr...@math.harvard.edu writes:
>I hope so. I wouldn't want to be fighting aliens with prerelease system
>software...
>
> gr...@math.harvard.edu
It must be nice to see your software in a movie. You could see an open
Control
Strip on the Goldblum machine for about 0.5 seconds, and I had a flash of
hope
that he might be using one of my modules: no such luck. (This was a minor
continuity error, BTW, cut to machine screen with CS open, cut away, cut
back 1 second layer, CS closed).
--glenn
Michael Horn
In article <4rggqm$1...@news-old.tiac.net>, Glenn R. Howes
<grh...@tiac.net> wrote:
Only us Mac users would notice something like that.
--
Michael Horn - Electrical Engineering
m-h...@uiuc.edu
m...@flash.net
(Don't read this if you haven't seen the movie yet.)
If Jeff Goldblum WAS using System 8.0, I'm excited. If HE can log onto
an alien spaceship's computer on the first try with no problems, maybe
that means I'LL be able to maintain an Internet connection for more
than 5 minutes without crashing!
Mike Merschel,
Richardson, Texas
Gregory D. Landweber
THEY use Open Transport...
In article <dwilson-0507...@news.bytes.net>, dwi...@cybcon.com
(Doug Wilson) wrote:
>In article <31DCC6...@flash.net>, m...@flash.net wrote:
>
>> If Jeff Goldblum WAS using System 8.0, I'm excited. If HE can log onto
>> an alien spaceship's computer on the first try with no problems, maybe
>> that means I'LL be able to maintain an Internet connection for more
>> than 5 minutes without crashing!
>
>I can see the press release now:
>
>"and among many new features of System 8 reported by Apple is the ability
>to log into alien computer networks on the first attempt!"
>
>--
>Doug Wilson :::::::/::::::
>http://www.cybcon.com/~dwilson :::|::/:::|:::
>------------------------------ :::::|___:::::
>*Windows 95 rules! I've been using ::::::::/:::::
>it for six years on my Macintosh* :--_____|__--:
>*** "Intel Inside"...The world's ::::::::\:::::
>most widely used warning label. ***
> ***AOL Sucks!!!*** Mac OS
-- Greg Landweber
gr...@math.harvard.edu
Brian Landers
I think Apple's new PowerBook commercial says it best:
"Apple...the Power to Save the Planet"
Patrick D. McSwiggen
> If Jeff Goldblum WAS using System 8.0, I'm excited. If HE can log onto
> an alien spaceship's computer on the first try with no problems, maybe
> that means I'LL be able to maintain an Internet connection for more
> than 5 minutes without crashing!
Check out the most recent posting to comp.security.announce (CERT Advisory
CA-96.13 - Alien/OS Vulnerability). This is a *moderated* news group
controlled by CERT, so either someone was being naughty/tricky, or there
is at least one person at CERT with a sense of humor :-). This posting is
a perfect parody of the usual CERT Advisory style!
--
Patrick D. McSwiggen Internet: pat.mc...@uc.edu
Department of Mathematics <mcs...@kyodai.csm.uc.edu>
University of Cincinnati
Philip Machanick
In article <greg-05079...@fas-news.harvard.edu>,
gr...@math.harvard.edu (Gregory D. Landweber) wrote:
>THEY use Open Transport...
Oh, I get it. OT is a follow-up on ET. I guess the space aliens were
sabotaging the first few releases. :(
--
Philip Machanick
Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand
2050 Wits, South Africa 27(11)716-3309 fax 339-7965
phi...@cs.wits.ac.za http://www.cs.wits.ac.z/~philip/
Frank Schima
In article <Pat.McSwiggen-0...@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
Pat.Mc...@UC.Edu (Patrick D. McSwiggen) wrote:
>Check out the most recent posting to comp.security.announce (CERT Advisory
>CA-96.13 - Alien/OS Vulnerability). This is a *moderated* news group
>controlled by CERT, so either someone was being naughty/tricky, or there
>is at least one person at CERT with a sense of humor :-). This posting is
>a perfect parody of the usual CERT Advisory style!
That sounds absolutely hilarious, but it's no longer there. Can someone
post it please.
-Frank
--
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Database Programmer & Network Administrator | Washington, DC
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Michael Sattler
>>Check out the most recent posting to comp.security.announce (CERT Advisory
>>CA-96.13 - Alien/OS Vulnerability). This is a *moderated* news group
>>controlled by CERT, so either someone was being naughty/tricky, or there
>>is at least one person at CERT with a sense of humor :-). This posting is
>>a perfect parody of the usual CERT Advisory style!
>
>That sounds absolutely hilarious, but it's no longer there. Can someone
>post it please.
Enjoy.
=============================================================================
CERT(sm) Advisory CA-96.13
July 4, 1996
Topic: ID4 virus, Alien/OS Vulnerability
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT Coordination Center has received reports of weaknesses in
Alien/OS that can allow species with primitive information sciences
technology to initiate denial-of-service attacks against MotherShip(tm)
hosts. One report of exploitation of this bug has been received.
When attempting takeover of planets inhabited by such races, a trojan
horse attack is possible that permits local access to the MotherShip
host, enabling the implantation of executable code with full root access
to mission-critical security features of the operating system.
The vulnerability exists in versions of EvilAliens' Alien/OS 34762.12.1
or later, and all versions of Microsoft's Windows/95. CERT advises
against initiating further planet takeover actions until patches
are available from these vendors. If planet takeover is absolutely
necessary, CERT advises that affected sites apply the workarounds as
specified below.
As we receive additional information relating to this advisory, we will
place it in
ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/CA-96.13.README
We encourage you to check our README files regularly for updates on
advisories that relate to your site.
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I. Description
Alien/OS contains a security vulnerability, which strangely enough
can be exploited by a primitive race running Windows/95. Although
Alien/OS has been extensively field tested over millions of years by
EvilAliens, Inc., the bug was only recently discovered during a
routine invasion of a backwater planet. EvilAliens notes that
the operating system had never before been tested against a race
with "such a kick-ass president."
The vulnerability allows the insertion of executable code with
root access to key security features of the operating system. In
particular, such code can disable the NiftyGreenShield (tm)
subsystem, allowing child processes to be terminated by unauthorized
users.
Additionally, Alien/OS networking protocols can provide a
low-bandwidth covert timing channel to a determined attacker.
II. Impact
Non-privileged primitive users can cause the total destruction of
your entire invasion fleet and gain unauthorized access to
files.
III. Solution
EvilAliens has supplied a workaround and a patch, as follows:
A. Workaround
To prevent unauthorized insertion of executables, install a
firewall to selectively vaporize incoming packets that do not
contain valid aliens. Also, disable the "Java" option in
Netscape.
To eliminate the covert timing channel, remove untrusted
hosts from routing tables. As tempting as it is, do not use
target species' own satellites against them.
B. Patch
As root, install the "evil" package from the distribution tape.
(Optionally) save a copy of the existing /usr/bin/sendmail and
modify its permission to prevent misuse.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The CERT Coordination Center thanks Jeff Goldblum and Fjkxdtssss for
providing information for this advisory.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you believe that your system has been compromised, contact the CERT
Coordination Center or your representative in the Forum of Incident
Response and Security Teams (FIRST).
We strongly urge you to encrypt any sensitive information you send by email.
The CERT Coordination Center can support a shared DES key and PGP. Contact the
CERT staff for more information.
Location of CERT PGP key
ftp://info.cert.org/pub/CERT_PGP.key
CERT Contact Information
- ------------------------
Email ce...@cert.org
Phone +1 412-268-7090 (24-hour hotline)
CERT personnel answer 8:30-5:00 p.m. EST
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Fax +1 412-268-6989
Postal address
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Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890
USA
CERT publications, information about FIRST representatives, and other
security-related information are available for anonymous FTP from
http://www.cert.org/
ftp://info.cert.org/pub/
CERT advisories and bulletins are also posted on the USENET newsgroup
comp.security.announce
To be added to our mailing list for CERT advisories and bulletins, send your
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Eric Soroos
In article <relayer-0807...@frank.ewg.org>, rel...@ewg.org
(Frank Schima) wrote:
\>
>That sounds absolutely hilarious, but it's no longer there. Can someone
>post it please.
>
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/CA-96.13.README
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I. Description
II. Impact
III. Solution
A. Workaround
B. Patch
Fax +1 412-268-6989
--
sor...@u.washington.edu
http://www.ce.washington.edu/~soroos
Amy Young-Leith
In article <hegsl-03079...@news.cybercomm.net>,
<he...@cyberselsi.com> wrote:
>Just having come back from seeing the movie ID4, i thought you might like
>to know somethings. As you may or may not know, apple has taken a stake in
>this moive as they did with Mission Impossible. They used macs for the
>government and Jeff Goldblum's character uses a powerbook. And on this
>powerbook, is the gui of Copland, with 3d effects. It looked pretty cool.
I was surprised at all the HYPE about Apple and Mission Impossible.
Yeah, it was a grey case with the little plastic colorful Apple but the
interface was shit and downright patronizing, I thought. =-)
Now in ID4, it was at least reasonable. No huge full screen words
flashing "SEARCHING INTERNET" or other stupid slosh. Progress bars, the
comforting hard drive ticks of the Powerbook, etc.
amy
musc...@cadvision.com
I think the "virus" that Jeff Goldblum uploaded was, in fact, OT 1.1. As
soon as the Alien Computer tried to initiate a connection, it crashed the
mother ship's computer, (type 11 error) and brought down the shields.
Doctor W
> > Alien/OS contains a security vulnerability, which strangely enough
> > can be exploited by a primitive race running Windows/95.
Yeah, but only a primitive race would run Windows 95 (or Windows at all,
for that matter.)
scott j lopez
In <soroos-0807...@cs117-14.u.washington.edu> Eric Soroos (sor...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
> I. Description
>
> Alien/OS contains a security vulnerability, which strangely enough
> can be exploited by a primitive race running Windows/95.
Hm, wasn't he using a PowerBook? Why would he be running W/95 on it? Granted
you could with SW95. But it sure looked like Sys7 w/ Aaron to me.
Still, this is funny as hell, whoever the author was. Congrats. You provided
some good laugher for me and my co-workers.
Rahul Dey
> In article <Pat.McSwiggen-0...@babbage.ece.uc.edu>,
> Pat.Mc...@UC.Edu (Patrick D. McSwiggen) wrote:
>
> >
> > > If Jeff Goldblum WAS using System 8.0, I'm excited. If HE can log onto
> > > an alien spaceship's computer on the first try with no problems, maybe
> > > that means I'LL be able to maintain an Internet connection for more
> > > than 5 minutes without crashing!
> >
> > CA-96.13 - Alien/OS Vulnerability). This is a *moderated* news group
> > controlled by CERT, so either someone was being naughty/tricky, or there
> > is at least one person at CERT with a sense of humor :-). This posting is
> > a perfect parody of the usual CERT Advisory style!
>
>
> Anyone save it?
Here is an enclosed copy
Jim Robken
In article <4rubvi$1...@mailhost.ael.com>, slo...@mailhost.ael.com (scott j
lopez) wrote:
> In <soroos-0807...@cs117-14.u.washington.edu> Eric Soroos
(sor...@u.washington.edu) wrote:
> > I. Description
> >
> > Alien/OS contains a security vulnerability, which strangely enough
> > can be exploited by a primitive race running Windows/95.
>
> Hm, wasn't he using a PowerBook? Why would he be running W/95 on it? Granted
> you could with SW95. But it sure looked like Sys7 w/ Aaron to me.
>
> Still, this is funny as hell, whoever the author was. Congrats. You provided
> some good laugher for me and my co-workers.
Please, let me add my congrats, if I can stop laughing long enough to type!!!
Great observation!
--
Jim Robken
ji...@popalex1.linknet.net
Brian Gillis
In article <4ru67f$n...@tst.hk.super.net>, ze...@hk.super.net says...
>
>aly...@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Amy Young-Leith) wrote:
>
>>I was surprised at all the HYPE about Apple and Mission Impossible.
>>Yeah, it was a grey case with the little plastic colorful Apple but the
>>interface was shit and downright patronizing, I thought. =-)
>
>>Now in ID4, it was at least reasonable. No huge full screen words
>>flashing "SEARCHING INTERNET" or other stupid slosh. Progress bars, the
>>comforting hard drive ticks of the Powerbook, etc.
>
>much more subtle in ID4, but then we are Mac users and we notice these
>things.
>
Hmm....
Did you know that in the movie Independence Day they uploaded Apple System
7.5.3.2.1.3.5.7.9.4.3.5.3.5.A Rev C to the alien space craft and caused a
system error type 7?
We are know that System 7.X.X.X.X.X.X… Rev X.X Point X is like a virus. Hell,
it’s too bad that they we’re not running Copeland because they never would have
arrived.
It was really suspenseful when they took that powerbook into orbit. At first I
thought that it was the nuke since they do tend to catch on fire and explode.
I am sure glad that our defense department switched to PC’s or we would have
lost on July 2.
Let’s see, Alien’s 0, Humans 1, and Apple around $19.00 per share and
falling. Microsoft $130.00. Hmm, you do the math
.
We’ll know that Apple will sue the aliens since they ripped it off first from
Xerox. Those damn aliens. Wait for the sequel, this time we’re in trouble
since they have Windows 1.0.
Game over man, game over!
zehao
Nicholas Robinson
The virus was definitely RAM doubler, dude. Plus, the aliens probably were
working with System 750000.3.2 (codenamed Barber.)
Thomas Reed
Did anybody else notice that the PowerBook Jeff Goldblum used had a CD-ROM
drive? Such a thing doesn't currently exist, correct? I wonder if Apple
gave him a prototype of the next line...
On a side note, I knew there was a reason I'd been buying Macs all these
years. Plug and play, that's where the future's going! I'm glad to know
that if alien ships land, I'll be able to plug right in to their network
with my Mac! ;-)
-Thomas
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re...@medicine.wustl.edu Saint Louis, MO
http://medinfo.wustl.edu/~reed
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Opinions posted are not the opinions of Wash. U.
George Warner
Brian Gillis wrote:
>
> Letąs see, Alienąs 0, Humans 1, and Apple around $19.00 per share and
> falling. Microsoft $130.00. Hmm, you do the math
>
I'm doing the math and at today's close, it was Microsoft $114.50 and
falling.
George Warner
warn...@prolog.net
Rishi Gupta
Brian Gillis wrote:
> Let’s see, Alien’s 0, Humans 1, and Apple around $19.00 per share and
> falling. Microsoft $130.00. Hmm, you do the math
You don't know a goddamned thing about stocks do you? Price only
matters when number of issued and outstandings shares are taken into
account as well. Let's say there are two businesses. Business A:
Common stock is trading at $50 a share, 100 shares outstanding, total
share capital is $5000 Business B: Common stock is trading at $1000 a
share, 2 shares outstanding, total share capital is $2000. Just because
Business B has a higher price per share of stock, it doesn't mean that
the business B is doing better than Business A.
--
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Visit my Mac Wing Commander IV Page at
http://www.cyberus.ca/~risgupta/macwciv
(last updated July 6)
Eric Soroos
>Brian Gillis wrote:
>> Let’s see, Alien’s 0, Humans 1, and Apple around $19.00 per share and
>> falling. Microsoft $130.00. Hmm, you do the math
>
>You don't know a goddamned thing about stocks do you? Price only
>matters when number of issued and outstandings shares are taken into
>account as well. Let's say there are two businesses. Business A:
>Common stock is trading at $50 a share, 100 shares outstanding, total
>share capital is $5000 Business B: Common stock is trading at $1000 a
>share, 2 shares outstanding, total share capital is $2000. Just because
>Business B has a higher price per share of stock, it doesn't mean that
>the business B is doing better than Business A.
Hmmm, I think I'd take one share of Berkshire Hathaway class A with it's
high price any day. (34,000 or so per share, run by Warren Buffett) The
highest priced stock i've ever seen, and one of the better investments in
the stock market.
eric
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http://www.ce.washington.edu/~soroos
Paul Mix
In article <drg-090796...@ratatosk.mdacc.tmc.edu>,
d...@biomath.mdacc.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) wrote:
> In article <michael-0807...@news.sirius.com>, mic...@jungle.com
> (Michael Sattler) wrote:
>
> > Alien/OS contains a security vulnerability, which strangely enough
> > can be exploited by a primitive race running Windows/95.
>
> I haven't seen this movie, but I thought Apple went to a lot of trouble to
> make sure that Our Hero was using a PowerBook, presumably running some
> version of the Mac OS.
In that you are correct. I couldn't make out the model of the PB, but it
was definitely running the Mac OS... with the Aaron extension on, to boot
(unless it was some beta interface of OS 8).
Look for Apple's new marketing ad... "When you need to save the world,
make sure you have the right computer" ... or something like that.
Anyone have a list of how many movies have featured Macs (as a primary
prop... plenty of films have them in the background not filling any
plot-related niche)? I can think of several right off the top of my
head... ID4, Mission Impossible, Jurassic Park.
PM
Michael Horn
In article <pmix-13079...@capncrunch.execpc.com>, pm...@execpc.com
(Paul Mix) wrote:
> Anyone have a list of how many movies have featured Macs (as a primary
> prop... plenty of films have them in the background not filling any
> plot-related niche)? I can think of several right off the top of my
> head... ID4, Mission Impossible, Jurassic Park.
Add Courage Under Fire to that list. Denzel types several letters on a
PowerBook using SimpleText. There are also a couple Mac II's.
Arman Afagh
Sure, all of us Mac users noticed the tons of Macs used in ID4 and Mission
Impossible. However, I'm wondering whether anyone else noticed the
difference I noticed.
We've all already pointed out that the GUI in the Mission Impossible
computers was very un-Mac like. Furthermore, I only noticed one clear
screen shot of the apple logo (although I'm sure there were others that I
may have missed, although there couldn't have been more than a couple
since I had my eyes out for the colorful apple). To me, in Mission
Impossible it seemed like they had covered up all of the Apple's on the
outside cases of the Powerbooks, even though they were clearly Powerbook
computers (except for one instance where I clearly remember a thinkpad
being used).
Anyways, in ID4, on the other hand, the GUI was very Mac-like (in fact,
there were several screen shots with the Apple Menu apple). Furthermore,
on the Macs in the gov labs, most of the Macs clearly had Apple monitors
and I don't recall seeing any pieces-of-shit PCs (although I may have
missed some). Yet, at the end of Mission Impossible, in the credits, the
producers thanked Apple Computer, whereas in ID4, no "thanking" of Apple
Computer was acknowledged.
Does anyone know the reason for the difference. Also, even though Apple
had a heavy promotion campaign tied in with Mission Impossible, to the
non-Mac user, apparently very few Macs were used. On ID4, on the other
hand, Macs were much more prominently displayed. Yet, the entirety of the
promotion campaign tied in with ID4 appeared to me to be the "Macintosh...
The Power to Save the Planet" commercials that I saw (and only once, for
that, although I don't watch much TV).
I'd like to hear of people's comments on this and from any sources from
Apple Computer.
ARman.
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evilsofa
> >
> > > Alien/OS contains a security vulnerability, which strangely enough
> > > can be exploited by a primitive race running Windows/95.
Yeah, whoever wrote the CERT advisory got this part mostly wrong.
What really happened is that the computer geek uploaded Windows 95 to the
Alien OS. And apparently there was a driver conflict with one or more of
the alien's printers (which, BTW, don't use paper - and I won't gross you
out by telling you what they DO use...). And the aliens just weren't able
to log into MSN fast enough to download the proper driver.
And there lies the great irony. I am looking out my bedroom window, and
from here (I happen to live 6 blocks away), I can see that several pieces
of the Seattle spacecraft has completely smushed the Microsoft campus into
a grease spot.
See? Apple DID win out in the end!
--
"You know when I get in the mashed potatoes with my doorknob, all she
do is cry and cry cause the little volleyball don't have no liver or lungs..."
Finally found out meaning and source of above quote! Email if interested.
I notify postmasters of commercial email, which I do NOT want.
C. Smith
In article <afagha01-130...@netnews.nyu.edu>,
afag...@popmail.med.nyu.edu (Arman Afagh) wrote:
: Sure, all of us Mac users noticed the tons of Macs used in ID4 and Mission
: Impossible. However, I'm wondering whether anyone else noticed the
: difference I noticed.
:
: We've all already pointed out that the GUI in the Mission Impossible
: computers was very un-Mac like. Furthermore, I only noticed one clear
: screen shot of the apple logo (although I'm sure there were others that I
: may have missed, although there couldn't have been more than a couple
: since I had my eyes out for the colorful apple). To me, in Mission
: Impossible it seemed like they had covered up all of the Apple's on the
: outside cases of the Powerbooks, even though they were clearly Powerbook
: computers (except for one instance where I clearly remember a thinkpad
: being used).
:
: Anyways, in ID4, on the other hand, the GUI was very Mac-like (in fact,
: there were several screen shots with the Apple Menu apple). Furthermore,
: on the Macs in the gov labs, most of the Macs clearly had Apple monitors
: and I don't recall seeing any pieces-of-shit PCs (although I may have
: missed some).
But did you notice that some of the Macs were old, old Mac II/IIx/IIfx
boxes? Couldn't they at least rent a PowerMac or two?? :-)
Remember Star Trek IV? Scotty uses a Mac SE, but the beep was
distinctively an Apple II sound and the screen shots weren't Mac.
Hollywood... <sigh>
C. Smith
Joel Klecker
In article <ralphp-1407...@du-00.gcstation.net>,
ral...@gcstation.net (Ralph Wade Phillips) wrote:
|Hi there!
|
|In article <m-horn-1307...@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, m-h...@uiuc.edu
|(Michael Horn) wrote:
|
|> In article <pmix-13079...@capncrunch.execpc.com>, pm...@execpc.com
|> (Paul Mix) wrote:
|>
|> > Anyone have a list of how many movies have featured Macs (as a primary
|> > prop... plenty of films have them in the background not filling any
|> > plot-related niche)? I can think of several right off the top of my
|> > head... ID4, Mission Impossible, Jurassic Park.
|>
|> Add Courage Under Fire to that list. Denzel types several letters on a
|> PowerBook using SimpleText. There are also a couple Mac II's.
| Stretch a little bit - An Apple //c in "2010".
The Mac Plus in Star Trek 4.
--
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Do you believe in Macintosh? Please visit
<http://www.evangelist.macaddict.com/> to see how you can help the cause.
Is your unix box possessed by *daemons*? :-)
Ralph Wade Phillips
Hi there!
In article <m-horn-1307...@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, m-h...@uiuc.edu
(Michael Horn) wrote:
> In article <pmix-13079...@capncrunch.execpc.com>, pm...@execpc.com
> (Paul Mix) wrote:
>
> > Anyone have a list of how many movies have featured Macs (as a primary
> > prop... plenty of films have them in the background not filling any
> > plot-related niche)? I can think of several right off the top of my
> > head... ID4, Mission Impossible, Jurassic Park.
>
> Add Courage Under Fire to that list. Denzel types several letters on a
> PowerBook using SimpleText. There are also a couple Mac II's.
>
Stretch a little bit - An Apple //c in "2010".
RwP
--
Ralph Wade Phillips, CET #LA-82
ral...@gcstation.net
Mike Shields
In article <clayton-1407...@h108-6-109.ccnet.com>,
cla...@ccnet.com (C. Smith) wrote:
<big snip>
>
> Remember Star Trek IV? Scotty uses a Mac SE, but the beep was
> distinctively an Apple II sound and the screen shots weren't Mac.
>
> Hollywood... <sigh>
>
> C. Smith
The fact that you know that it was an Apple II system beep scares me...
--
Mike Shields
"Not too many people know that I'm famous." - Mike Shields
I need $530,150 for a film. Serious inquiries only.
Read "About this Particular MacIntosh" available online near you!!!
"You can't write this stuff. It happens in real life." - Mike Shields
If everyone on the 'net sent a dollar...
ASGTPR #54
C. Smith
In article <MShields-220...@147.17.97.165>,
MShi...@ccgate.hac.com (Mike Shields) wrote:
: In article <clayton-1407...@h108-6-109.ccnet.com>,
: cla...@ccnet.com (C. Smith) wrote:
:
: <big snip>
:
: >
: > Remember Star Trek IV? Scotty uses a Mac SE, but the beep was
: > distinctively an Apple II sound and the screen shots weren't Mac.
: >
: > Hollywood... <sigh>
: >
: > C. Smith
:
: The fact that you know that it was an Apple II system beep scares me...
It scared me too... :-)
C. Smith