Pro 6 Slowness
David Burgun
Since last I posted I have been trying like mad to make Pro 6 work at it's
proper speed (e.g. not like a Zombie on Tranks).
Is any one out there running Pro 6 and MacOS 8.6 on a G3?
The reason I ask is that it seems fine with a clean install of MacOS 9, so
I'm now wondering if the problem is that I need MacOS 9 or that I need a
clean install of 8.6 (e.g. in my existing 8.6 folder I have a conflict or
whatever).
I'd rather stick with 8.6 if possible.
Any ideas which is most likely?
Thanks in advance
Dave
Eric Albert
Burgun <NOdbur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Since last I posted I have been trying like mad to make Pro 6 work at it's
> proper speed (e.g. not like a Zombie on Tranks).
Don't use CarbonLib 1.1. I've been quite unhappy with Pro 6 and
CarbonLib 1.2f3 as well, but I'm not sure what others think about that.
CarbonLib 1.0.4 works nicely -- CodeWarrior will run at its normal speed
if you're using that version.
-Eric
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Micah Koch
I run Pro 6 on 8.6 on a G3 and its just fine. I'm using CarbonLib
1.0.4, so as Eric Albert suggested its more than likely the version of
CarbonLib that you are using.
Micah
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David Burgun
(in message <ejalbert-F83F29...@nntp.stanford.edu>):
> In article <01HW.B67A5B7C0...@news.earthlink.net>, David
> Burgun <NOdbur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Since last I posted I have been trying like mad to make Pro 6 work at it's
>> proper speed (e.g. not like a Zombie on Tranks).
>
> Don't use CarbonLib 1.1. I've been quite unhappy with Pro 6 and
> CarbonLib 1.2f3 as well, but I'm not sure what others think about that.
> CarbonLib 1.0.4 works nicely -- CodeWarrior will run at its normal speed
> if you're using that version.
>
Sorry I should have said, I am using CarbonLib 1.0.4 under MacOS 9 and 8.6.
Under MacOS 9 (and clean install) everything works ok, under 8.6 it takes 20
seconds to display the contents of a window!!!!!!
---Dave
David Burgun
(in message <934jpg$fd8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>):
What model is your G3???? See my other post for CarbonLib details.
Thanks in advance
Dave
Micah Koch
I just had to guess CarbonLib after reading the problems other people
have had with it...oh well, here's my specs:
I have a beige G3 desktop...266Mhz, 192MB RAM. The only non-Apple
extensions I run are a few Norton things, and one or two others. If you
need any other info just let me know,
David Burgun
(in message <9355j9$ck$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>):
Hmmmm, you give me hope. I am running on a Beige DT G3/233/128.
I'm going through the extensions now, but as you probably know, it's slow
work.
Thanks for the Info
Dave
Micah Koch
Is the whole thing in general slow, or just certain parts? One thing I
did just notice is that the text editing, at least right now, seems to be
sluggish. General tasks like compiling, linking, scrolling, navigating
around my projects, seem to work pretty well, but if I type fast then the
editor has trouble keeping up with me. I'll have to play around a little
bit because I'm pretty sure the text editing hasn't been this slow the
whole time...course I haven't used it very much since I moved it over to
my new HD. I'll investigate some and let you know what I find out.
Micah Koch
Doing a clean reinstall of Codewarrior seems to have cleared up the slow
text editing...I guess it didn't like being copied from 1 HD to another
for whatever reason. Oh well, if I notice anything else I'll let you
know,
MWRon
>Is the whole thing in general slow, or just certain parts? One thing I
>did just notice is that the text editing, at least right now, seems to be
>sluggish. General tasks like compiling, linking, scrolling, navigating
>around my projects, seem to work pretty well, but if I type fast then the
>editor has trouble keeping up with me. I'll have to play around a little
>bit because I'm pretty sure the text editing hasn't been this slow the
>whole time...course I haven't used it very much since I moved it over to
>my new HD. I'll investigate some and let you know what I find out.
>Micah
The problems that we have found that cause sluggishness are for two
reasons, having the DCon extension loaded or using a CarbonLib that is a
beta version. If anyone finds other reasons or extensions please drop
me a note.
Ron
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Micah Koch
seeing is if I had the keyboard key repeat rate set at the highest level,
when you hold done a key the editor window can't keep up and doesn't
refresh the screen until you let go of the key. This is somewhat of an
annoyance when your backspacing over something because you can't tell
when to release the backspace key and end up deleting too much quite
often. If I turn down the key repeat rate one notch then it at least
resolves the backspacing issue, but if I type fast enough you can still
see that the editor is having trouble keeping up. I'll look into it
though and see if it relates to any extension in particular.
The other problem I'm seeing is that I installed OS 9 and now the IDE
freezes when I try to launch it. :( I tried trashing the prefs, giving
more memory, but to
no avail. Anything I should try before I give up and revert back to 8.6?
Thanks,
Micah
> The problems that we have found that cause sluggishness are for two
> reasons, having the DCon extension loaded or using a CarbonLib that is a
> beta version. If anyone finds other reasons or extensions please drop
> me a note.
>
> Ron
>
> --
> CodeWarrior PersonalJava Edition v6 J2SE, J2ME
> services for CLDC/MIDP enabled wireless devices
> http://www.metrowerks.com/java/
>
> Metrowerks "Software Starts Here" MW...@metrowerks.com
>
Ron Hunsinger
> Hmmm...I don't have DCon, and I'm on CarbonLib 1.0.4. The problem I was
> seeing is if I had the keyboard key repeat rate set at the highest level,
> when you hold done a key the editor window can't keep up and doesn't
> refresh the screen until you let go of the key.
That's not supposed to happen. The Event Manager gives updatedEvt a higher
priority than autoKey, specifically to prevent this. Specifically, an
autoKey event will not be generated until sufficient time has elapsed since
the last keyDown or autoKey for the currently pressed key AND there are no
higher priority events pending. In particular, an autoKey event will never
be generated if any window needs updating.
Unless something is wrong.
-Ron Hunsinger
Micah Koch
Something is wrong, I'm pretty sure there is some sort of extension
conflict with CW6. I'm still trying to track down. At least I found
the one that was causing CW6 to lock up completely when starting up(that
one was called PLStringFuncs.stub, and the lockup only occured in OS9,
not 8.6). If I have more time this evening hopefully I can track down
the one causing the slowdown.
Micah
MWRon
>Something is wrong, I'm pretty sure there is some sort of extension
>conflict with CW6. I'm still trying to track down. At least I found
>the one that was causing CW6 to lock up completely when starting up(that
>one was called PLStringFuncs.stub, and the lockup only occured in OS9,
>not 8.6). If I have more time this evening hopefully I can track down
>the one causing the slowdown.
That is mentioned in the installation notes.
David Burgun
For the repeat rate, I've seen this under other version of CW Pro, so I don't
think it 100% a Pro 6 problem. Most likely the problem is much more
noticiable under CarbonLib. I think it may have to do with the general way in
which the IDE handles events.
For the OS 9/Pro 6 problem, have you tried all the normal things? Like:
1. Rebuild Desktop DB.
2. Run Disk First Aid.
Does it happen in ALL IDEs or just Pro 6?
---Dave
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 13:32:15 -0800, Micah Koch wrote
(in message <9382sv$7rh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>):
Micah Koch
David Burgun <NOdbur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For the repeat rate, I've seen this under other version of CW Pro, so
I don't
> think it 100% a Pro 6 problem. Most likely the problem is much more
> noticiable under CarbonLib. I think it may have to do with the general
way in
> which the IDE handles events.
I guess that could be...I reinstalled CW5 just to compare and it doesn't
seem to have the same difficulties though. I'm still pretty sure there
is some extension nastiness going on, because if I start up under a Base
OS extension set it seems to fix the problem.
> For the OS 9/Pro 6 problem, have you tried all the normal things?
Like:
>
> 1. Rebuild Desktop DB.
> 2. Run Disk First Aid.
>
> Does it happen in ALL IDEs or just Pro 6?
>
> ---Dave
Well I tracked down, and if I would have been a good boy and read the
installation notes it wouldn't have taken but a second to solve(see
other posts in this thread)...oh well, live and learn. I'll probably
end up going back to 8.6 anyways, I like it better, I just wanted to
check out 9 to see how it affected some other, non-CW related stuff. :)
Micah
Thomas Engelmeier
mw...@metrowerks.com (MWRon) wrote:
> The problems that we have found that cause sluggishness are for two
> reasons, having the DCon extension loaded or using a CarbonLib that is a
> beta version. If anyone finds other reasons or extensions please drop
> me a note.
Dcon doesn´t noticably slow it down on my PB G3 bronce, MacOS 9.0.4 D.