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MPW 3.4.2 - Free?!

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Steven A. Kortze

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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In article <B093DB5...@206.163.152.86>, "Seth Hill"
<fer...@proaxis.com> wrote:

>Hi all. I was browsing Apple's ftp site today, when I came upon the
>following file:
><ftp://ftp.apple.com/devworld/Tool_Chest/Core_Mac_OS_Tools/MPW-3.4.2.sit.hqx
>
>This couldn't possibly be the real "Macintosh Programmer's Workshop", could
>it? I mean, MPW is a commercial product, and although I've heard Apple
>isn't going to support it any more, they aren't just *giving* it away, are
>they?
>
>Somebody out there want to tell me I'm crazy? (I'd probably just download
>it and find out if I had an internet connection faster than 28.8)

MPW is now freely available. From what I understand, the MPW team has
actually grown a little bit. MPW and it's tools are still used within
Apple. They are not going to totally give up on it yet. I believe the
version you found is the latest release version of MPW. In the past,
pre-release versions were available on the ETO CDs and are now available on
the CodeWarrior CDs (CW Pro).

Here are a couple more urls:

MPW Tool Updates http://devtools.apple.com/mpw-tools/
MrC/MrCpp (C/C++ PowerPC) Compiler http://devtools.apple.com/compilers/

Good luck!

Steve

John Nagle

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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"Seth Hill" <fer...@proaxis.com> writes:
>Hi all. I was browsing Apple's ftp site today, when I came upon the
>following
>file:
><ftp://ftp.apple.com/devworld/Tool_Chest/Core_Mac_OS_Tools/MPW-3.4.2.sit.hqx

>This couldn't possibly be the real "Macintosh Programmer's Workshop", could
>it? I mean, MPW is a commercial product, and although I've heard Apple
>isn't going to support it any more, they aren't just *giving* it away, are
>they?

Sure, why not? MPW is obsolete, unsupported, and grossly inferior
to MetroWerks tools. It's basically a bad clone of the UNIX Programmer's
Workbench, circa 1978. Twenty years is long enough.

John Nagle

Jerome Jahnke

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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On Sun, Nov 16, 1997 9:39 AM, John Nagle <mailto:na...@netcom.com> wrote:
> Sure, why not? MPW is obsolete, unsupported, and grossly inferior
>to MetroWerks tools. It's basically a bad clone of the UNIX Programmer's
>Workbench, circa 1978. Twenty years is long enough.

Sorry, it also takes less RAM than Metrowerks and runs faster. Oddly
enough most of the world still uses Makefiles, while the CW Pro line is
addressing this fact it is nice to have software compile and install its
self for you. I use it daily with metrowerks compiler without absorbing
all that overhead I don't use (the awful editor and browser and debugger.)

Don't knock it, command line systems are nice for lots of things, and
programming is one of them.

I am sure however that if Metrowerks came out with just a project manager
that did not require 8 megabytes to run I would use it instead. But
makefiles are easy enough to use and in quite a bit more flexible.

Jer,

--
Jerome Jahnke
Biological Sciences Division/ Office of Academic Computing
University of Chicago

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