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Mike Rosenberg

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Mar 3, 2009, 5:02:27 PM3/3/09
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I have a client running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on a 1.83 GHz Core Duo Intel
iMac. He finds it convenient to have some of the text colored in his
word processing documents but then print it monochrome (i.e. black and
white, not greyscale - all text prints black). This was possible with
his old Epson Stylus 740, where Epson's driver allowed him to choose
greyscale with no half toning.

The 740 just finally died, and his newer (yet still old) HP Deskjet
6840's driver doesn't have any such option as far as I could tell. I'd
hoped that perhaps a Gutenprint CUPS driver would do the job, but
there's no Gutenprint support for the 6840.

Any ideas?

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Wayne C. Morris

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Mar 3, 2009, 5:35:05 PM3/3/09
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In article <1iw0gtc.dz9n1pl92df6N%mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> I have a client running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on a 1.83 GHz Core Duo Intel
> iMac. He finds it convenient to have some of the text colored in his
> word processing documents but then print it monochrome (i.e. black and
> white, not greyscale - all text prints black). This was possible with
> his old Epson Stylus 740, where Epson's driver allowed him to choose
> greyscale with no half toning.
>
> The 740 just finally died, and his newer (yet still old) HP Deskjet
> 6840's driver doesn't have any such option as far as I could tell. I'd
> hoped that perhaps a Gutenprint CUPS driver would do the job, but
> there's no Gutenprint support for the 6840.

Try the ColorSync options in the print dialog. Setting the Quartz
Filter to Black & White ought to do it.

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Mike Rosenberg

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Mar 3, 2009, 5:40:54 PM3/3/09
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I should have mentioned that I tried that, but it appears to work by
setting everything above a threshold as black, everything below it as
white, so some of his colored text did not print at all. Now, if there's
some way to change that threshold, that would do the trick, but I wasn't
able to find a way to accomplish this.

Mike Rosenberg

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Mar 3, 2009, 5:42:41 PM3/3/09
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Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:

> I have an HP C6180, and am using HP's print driver. Take a look at
> <http://members.cox.net/michelle10042002/pictures/hp.bmp>
> to see how I have it set up for grey-scale printing.
>
> If your client's Print dialog is not the same as mine, I'm afraid that I
> can't help.

Oh, there's no problem printing greyscale, but he wants monochrome - all
colored text should print black, not grey.

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Mike Rosenberg

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Mar 3, 2009, 6:05:42 PM3/3/09
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Michael Vilain <vil...@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> I recall someone having a similar problem with a color printer and it's
> driver in MacOS X. It turned out the vendor's driver and their
> cartridge system in the printer didn't allow for monochrome printing.
>
> I suspect your client is SOL here.

I strongly suspect that's the case, too. I want to be sure there's
nothing I'm missing, no workaround, before I tell him he's SOL.

> A laser printer is cheaper and does
> monochrome "out of the box". Your client's call on if they want to
> continue using the wrong printer to print their documents.

Agreed. The laser printer would pay for itself in per page savings
before too long with the amount of printing he does. Even if someone
does come up with a workaround for his current printer, I'll advise him
to buy a laser printer.

Gerry

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Mar 3, 2009, 7:03:35 PM3/3/09
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In article <1iw0gtc.dz9n1pl92df6N%mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> I have a client running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on a 1.83 GHz Core Duo Intel
> iMac. He finds it convenient to have some of the text colored in his
> word processing documents but then print it monochrome (i.e. black and
> white, not greyscale - all text prints black). This was possible with
> his old Epson Stylus 740, where Epson's driver allowed him to choose
> greyscale with no half toning.
>
> The 740 just finally died, and his newer (yet still old) HP Deskjet
> 6840's driver doesn't have any such option as far as I could tell. I'd
> hoped that perhaps a Gutenprint CUPS driver would do the job, but
> there's no Gutenprint support for the 6840.
>
> Any ideas?

Have your client open the document, select all the text, set font color
to black, Print, then do Command Key + Z, Save document.

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jim

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Mar 4, 2009, 2:12:38 AM3/4/09
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In article <michelle-CAF20F...@mara100-84.onlink.net>,
Michelle Steiner <mich...@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <1iw0jsz.12l7t8011vqzafN%mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,


> mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>
> > > If your client's Print dialog is not the same as mine, I'm afraid
> > > that I can't help.
> >
> > Oh, there's no problem printing greyscale, but he wants monochrome -
> > all colored text should print black, not grey.
>

> Oh. I misunderstood. My suggestion, then, is to back up, change all
> the text to black, print it, and then restore from the backup.

My thinking was to save the final version, then change it all to black,
print, and trash the printed file. Seems a step or two shorter.

John McWilliams

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Mar 4, 2009, 2:19:25 AM3/4/09
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How about the fact that the document is already saved in the manner the
client wants when opened. Therefore, Cmd-A, set to black, print, close,
don't save- a step or so shorter.

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Mike Rosenberg

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Mar 4, 2009, 9:02:49 AM3/4/09
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Mike Rosenberg <mike...@TOGROUPmacconsult.com> wrote:

> I have a client running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on a 1.83 GHz Core Duo Intel
> iMac. He finds it convenient to have some of the text colored in his
> word processing documents but then print it monochrome (i.e. black and
> white, not greyscale - all text prints black). This was possible with
> his old Epson Stylus 740, where Epson's driver allowed him to choose
> greyscale with no half toning.
>
> The 740 just finally died, and his newer (yet still old) HP Deskjet
> 6840's driver doesn't have any such option as far as I could tell. I'd
> hoped that perhaps a Gutenprint CUPS driver would do the job, but
> there's no Gutenprint support for the 6840.
>
> Any ideas?

I appreciate all the responses I've gotten so far, but let me explain my
goals in posting.

My client has had the Stylus 740 since 1997 or so. Back in the OS 8.x -
9.x days, the Epson driver directly let him select Color, Greyscale, or
Black & White in the print dialog. If he picked Black & White, the
colored text printed as black. When he moved on to OS X, the Epson
driver didn't have the Black & White choice directly, _but_ it did (and
still does) have a custom option to print in greyscale with halftoning
turned off, which accomplishes the same thing, and the guy who was his
consultant back then created three Presets for him - Color, Greyscale,
and Black and White - with the latter going to that custom setting, so
once again he was able to just select the appropriate one from the print
dialog.

Now the 740 has finally died, and there's no obvious way to accomplish
the same thing with his DJ 6840. He's aware that he can change all his
text to black and then print - that's what he's been doing, but if it's
in any way possible, he'd like to go back to the way he'd been doing it
before.

So, for him it's a work flow thing. For me, it's the thrill of the
challenge.

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