Snow Leopard, printers and scanners
Daniel Cohen
Leopard.
Gutenprint have a driver. If I don't want to print in colour, it offers
a Grayscale option, but this does use the colour cartridge,as far as I
can gather.
The Gutenprint FAQ at <http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/p_FAQ_OS_X.php>
does give a work-around, but it is a hassle to do this every time.
And even in Leopard my scanner does not work with Graphic Converter in
its Intel mode (I can run it under Rosetta, though) because there is no
TWAIN for it.
OK, I can use my scanner under Snow Leopard via Image Capture, Vuescan,
or GC under Rosetta (I've never got TWAIN-SANE to work).
But the combination of these two issues makes me wonder whether it is
time to dispose of the scanner and printer and get a multi-function
device.
Any recommendations? I would want to know what functions the printer
driver provided (which I daresay I could find by downloading a manual if
someone suggests a model), and I would want to use Acquire directly in
Graphic Converter, rather than using some other way of scanning.
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Daniel Cohen
>
> Any recommendations? I would want to know what functions the printer
> driver provided (which I daresay I could find by downloading a manual if
> someone suggests a model), and I would want to use Acquire directly in
> Graphic Converter, rather than using some other way of scanning.
Forgot to say that I do like to have a printer that will print
double-sided.
Especially because I like to print out user manuals, rather than view on
the screen, and they can be very long.
Fred McKenzie
dcohe...@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote:
> My printer, HP980cxi, does not have an HP printer driver for Snow
> Leopard.
Daniel-
One of the options when installing Snow Leopard, was to install ALL
printer drivers, which I did. I can see an HP Deskjet 980C - Gutenprint
v5.2.3, as a choice in the printer add routine.
Fred
Daniel Cohen
> In article <1j5bd7c.1w6j9xd1gj4sowN%dcohe...@talktalk.net>,
> dcohe...@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote:
>
> > My printer, HP980cxi, does not have an HP printer driver for Snow
> > Leopard....
> >
> > Any recommendations?
>
> yer fucked.
>
> In case you haven't realized over the years, the computer industry
> doesn't give a rat's ass that your perfectly good peripheral is still
> perfectly good. Their goal is to get you to chase after NEW gear. To
> that end, they don't support your old stuff in new operating systems.
>
> You went and upgraded without checking, and you are now caught in the
> Silicon Valley vortex.
Fortunately I didn't. I installed Snow Leopard on an external drive for
evaluation purposes.
I may end up running Snow Leopard as my main system, with Leopard on an
external drive. The occasions that I need to print double-sided re rare
enough that I can live with restarting when I want to do that.
My other issue (printing with black cartridge only) might be a
non-issue, just a matter of things being worded differently.
But there is some value in changing my separate printer and scanner to
an all-in-one machine.
Daniel Cohen
Yes, I have it, it was automatically installed. But it does not support
all functions. Specifically, it does not permit double-sided printing.
Also the old driver has an option to print grayscale using the black
cartridge only. I am just not sure (it may be a matter of wording, not a
change in behaviour) whether Gutenprint and hjips (which is available
elsewhere) do print plain black text using only the black cartridge.
Maybe they do, it's what most people would want, but I can't find any
indication about that.
BreadW...@fractious.net
> My printer, HP980cxi, does not have an HP printer driver for Snow
> Leopard.
According to this, HP's list of printer compatibility with 10.6:
<http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01664444&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en>
My MFP will only print. No scanning, faxing, etc.
Pretty damned unfortunate. But HP's been VERY bad about
print drivers in the past.
As I posted elsewhere, when I went from 10.4 to 10.5, HP's
official advice at the time for the printer I had at the
time (not the same one as today) was that if you'd already
upgraded to 10.5 before installing their drivers, you need
to downgrade to 10.4, install the drivers, then upgrade
again to 10.5. Which, actually, worked. But that's really
sad.
I haven't gone 10.6 yet, but my impression is that it's
even worse this time - now it's not just the driver
installers that break, but existing in-place drivers, too.
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Daniel Cohen
> Pretty damned unfortunate. But HP's been VERY bad about
> print drivers in the past.
>
> As I posted elsewhere, when I went from 10.4 to 10.5, HP's
> official advice at the time for the printer I had at the
> time (not the same one as today) was that if you'd already
> upgraded to 10.5 before installing their drivers, you need
> to downgrade to 10.4, install the drivers, then upgrade
> again to 10.5. Which, actually, worked. But that's really
> sad.
>
> I haven't gone 10.6 yet, but my impression is that it's
> even worse this time - now it's not just the driver
> installers that break, but existing in-place drivers, too.
It's the 64-bit architecture that seems to be the issue.
Over on the Apple discussions about Snow Leopard printing a guy who
works for HP posted an unofficial unsupported solution that he reckons
does work, and which should apply for other manufacturers.
Roughly, delete existing drivers, install 10.5 ones from the Leopard
disk.
And (he doesn't say this, but I found it was necessary) when you want to
print, open your program in 32-bit mode.
A bit of a hassle, but not a great one, and if it means one doesn't need
a new printer, very well worth while.
If you can't scan directly, opening a program in 32-bit mode may well
allow a TWAIN driver to work. I haven't tried, as scanning seems ok for
me.
Fred McKenzie
dcohe...@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) wrote:
> Yes, I have it, it was automatically installed. But it does not support
> all functions. Specifically, it does not permit double-sided printing.
My HP 2605dn has duplex capability, as well as the extra memory.
Neither was enabled when first installed.
In 10.6, I can go to the Print & Fax System Preference, click on the HP
2605dn printer, and click Options & Supplies. In the new window, I
select the Driver tab, and can modify Tray 3, Collation in Printer
(Extra Memory) and Duplex Unit.
I tried changing the driver to the HP 980C, but there were no options
listed. Trying a few other printers, the "hp deskjet 9800 series"
driver has two options including the Duplexer. It appears that the
Gutenprint drivers do not have duplexer capability, but several others
do. If you find one that works, you may be able to get by until a
better driver is released.
Fred
Daniel Cohen
> I tried changing the driver to the HP 980C, but there were no options
> listed. Trying a few other printers, the "hp deskjet 9800 series"
> driver has two options including the Duplexer. It appears that the
> Gutenprint drivers do not have duplexer capability, but several others
> do. If you find one that works, you may be able to get by until a
> better driver is released.
As I posted elsewhere in this thread, following an unofficial and
unsupported suggestion by someone who works for HP;
Installing the driver from the Leopard disk and running a program in
32-bit mode seems to allow printing.
This is likely to work for any manufacturer.
There's a little bit of work involved in the installation which I have
not given in detail.