Is there a solution to the MacBook Pro wireless latency problem?

[Robert Peirce]

I posted the other day not being fully aware of what is going on.
Apparently, going back many years, there has been a problem with MBPs on
wireless networks, where for example, a ping that normally takes a
couple of ms may take over 1000 along with packet dropping etc. It is
random and doesn't occur on all MBPs.

When it occurs it can bring a MBP's wireless connection to a grinding
halt. Other computers on the network, MacBook and mini in my case,
continue to work as expected. The MBP, if connected over ethernet,
works as expected.

I just replaced a 2007 model, which never had a problem as far as I
know, with a 2012 model (retina display) which developed the problem
almost immediately. Checking google, the Apple forums and so on, this
seems to be an ongoing problem, which surprises me. It seems like
somebody must have come up with a solution by now. I figure if anybody
has this would be the best place to find it.

[Jolly Roger]

In article <bob-9E4751.1...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,

There is no MacBook Pro WiFi epidemic. You should always take what you
read on the internet with a grain of salt. Lots of uninformed people
make lots of uninformed assumptions and draw uninformed, incorrect
opinions about the issues they are having as a result.

Much more information is needed to determine the exact cause of the
problem you are having with your particular MBP. I wouldn't jump to any
conclusions yet.

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[Buster Friendly]

In article <jollyroger-0C413...@news.individual.net>,

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> There is no MacBook Pro WiFi epidemic. You should always take what you
> read on the internet with a grain of salt. Lots of uninformed people
> make lots of uninformed assumptions and draw uninformed, incorrect
> opinions about the issues they are having as a result.

Well, there certainly are a lot of people affected by this lack of a
problem. You drank the fucking kool-aid, didnja? Or is it kook-aid?

Floggings will continue until morale improves. Pour encourager les
autres.
--
Too much kipple.

[Warren Oates]

In article <slrnkenkk5....@mbp55.local>,
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <lah-CE6B36.2...@news.mixmin.net>

> Buster Friendly <l...@de.da.ru.ru> wrote:
> > In article <jollyroger-0C413...@news.individual.net>,
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> >> There is no MacBook Pro WiFi epidemic. You should always take what you
> >> read on the internet with a grain of salt. Lots of uninformed people
> >> make lots of uninformed assumptions and draw uninformed, incorrect
> >> opinions about the issues they are having as a result.
>
> > Well, there certainly are a lot of people affected by this lack of a
> > problem.
>

> How many? 0.01% of MacBook owners? 1% 10%?
>
> The Internet is a big place and it can seem that 'a lot' of people are
> having a problem that doesn't exist. 'A lot' of people on the Internet
> have been one Alien spacecraft too.

I think Buster's point is that telling people who have the problem (and
there's a lot) that "there's no problem" is a bit mean-spirited, to say
the least, and doesn't solve their problem, even if it makes you sleep a
bit better at night and feel all warm and fuzzy about Apple.

It's like, "I'm not dying of cancer, so the disease must be less
widespread than everyone says."

No one has ever seen an alien spacecraft, on the other hand. You can
quote me on that.
--

Soulless fruitflies are the nanotechnology of the fear industry -- Bucky

[Robert Peirce]

In article <jollyroger-0C413...@news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> There is no MacBook Pro WiFi epidemic. You should always take what you
> read on the internet with a grain of salt. Lots of uninformed people
> make lots of uninformed assumptions and draw uninformed, incorrect
> opinions about the issues they are having as a result.

I didn't say there was an epidemic. I spent 5.5 years with an older MBP
and never had a noticeable problem. I replaced it with a new MBP with
no other changes to the system and did have a problem. In checking on
the internet I found that a few MBP owners have had the same problem
going back five or six years. As with anything else on the internet,
complainers seem to be in a very small minority but very vocal.

> Much more information is needed to determine the exact cause of the
> problem you are having with your particular MBP. I wouldn't jump to any
> conclusions yet.

If I can provide any helpful information please tell me what you need.
In the meantime, here is where I am.

Actually, I jumped to a lot of conclusions before I discovered the
latency issue. First I thought it was Verizon, but that turned out not
to be the case. Then I thought it was my router (a Linksys WRT150N) but
an Airport Extreme and a Belkin 750 had the same problem. Then I
discovered the problem didn't occur if I connected via ethernet, both to
the router and to the DSL modem. Lastly I discovered the problem didn't
exist with my MacBook or mini over WiFi.

This led to more searching on the internet where I found that SOME MBP
owners have had problems with latency issues on WiFi. I did some
pinging to my router and found that when things were working correctly
my times were in the 1-2 ms range. When the got in the 5-10 ms range or
higher I would notice some hiccups and slower response. As responses
got slower my ability to connect declined. I saw some times of around
1500 ms. Beyond that it seemed to time out.

I don't know what the problem is or what to do about it, which is why I
posted. I think, possibly in error, that simply having a bad setting
somewhere would cause a constant problem and this problem is completely
random. Nevertheless, I haven't abandoned the bad setting idea, but I
don't know what to check.

When I got the new MBP I transferred everything from the old one and
expected it to work the same, just as going from the G4 to the original
MBP worked. It doesn't. If I can provide any helpful information
please tell me what you need.

[Robert Peirce]

In article <slrnkenkk5....@mbp55.local>,
Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> > Well, there certainly are a lot of people affected by this lack of a
> > problem.

My guess is not very many. Unfortunately, I am one of the few, the
proud, the MBP owner with a WiFi problem.

[Jolly Roger]

In article <lah-CE6B36.2...@news.mixmin.net>,

Buster Friendly <l...@de.da.ru.ru> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-0C413...@news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > There is no MacBook Pro WiFi epidemic. You should always take what you
> > read on the internet with a grain of salt. Lots of uninformed people
> > make lots of uninformed assumptions and draw uninformed, incorrect
> > opinions about the issues they are having as a result.
>
> Well, there certainly are a lot of people affected by this lack of a
> problem.

Luckily, none of the hundred or so Mac users I know and work with seem
to know about it, and I haven't seen it on several MacBook Pros I own
either. So I guess it's not nearly as wide spread a problem as some
might think.

[Jolly Roger]

In article <50ec23c1$0$55119$c3e8da3$e408...@news.astraweb.com>,

Warren Oates <warren...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <slrnkenkk5....@mbp55.local>,
> Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> > In message <lah-CE6B36.2...@news.mixmin.net>
> > Buster Friendly <l...@de.da.ru.ru> wrote:
> > > In article <jollyroger-0C413...@news.individual.net>,
> > > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> There is no MacBook Pro WiFi epidemic. You should always take what you
> > >> read on the internet with a grain of salt. Lots of uninformed people
> > >> make lots of uninformed assumptions and draw uninformed, incorrect
> > >> opinions about the issues they are having as a result.
> >
> > > Well, there certainly are a lot of people affected by this lack of a
> > > problem.
> >
> > How many? 0.01% of MacBook owners? 1% 10%?
> >
> > The Internet is a big place and it can seem that 'a lot' of people are
> > having a problem that doesn't exist. 'A lot' of people on the Internet
> > have been one Alien spacecraft too.
>
> I think Buster's point is that telling people who have the problem (and

> there's a lot) that "there's no problem" is a bit mean-spirited to say
> the least,

I didn't say there is no problem - I said there is no epidemic. THere is
a difference.

[Barry Margolin]

In article <jollyroger-288A2...@news.individual.net>,

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <50ec23c1$0$55119$c3e8da3$e408...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Warren Oates <warren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <slrnkenkk5....@mbp55.local>,
> > Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >
> > > In message <lah-CE6B36.2...@news.mixmin.net>
> > > Buster Friendly <l...@de.da.ru.ru> wrote:
> > > > In article <jollyroger-0C413...@news.individual.net>,
> > > > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> There is no MacBook Pro WiFi epidemic. You should always take what you
> > > >> read on the internet with a grain of salt. Lots of uninformed people
> > > >> make lots of uninformed assumptions and draw uninformed, incorrect
> > > >> opinions about the issues they are having as a result.
> > >
> > > > Well, there certainly are a lot of people affected by this lack of a
> > > > problem.
> > >
> > > How many? 0.01% of MacBook owners? 1% 10%?
> > >
> > > The Internet is a big place and it can seem that 'a lot' of people are
> > > having a problem that doesn't exist. 'A lot' of people on the Internet
> > > have been one Alien spacecraft too.
> >
> > I think Buster's point is that telling people who have the problem (and
> > there's a lot) that "there's no problem" is a bit mean-spirited to say
> > the least,
>
> I didn't say there is no problem - I said there is no epidemic. THere is
> a difference.

The OP never claimed there was an epidemic in the first place. He said
"ongoing problem".

--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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[Jolly Roger]

In article <barmar-FC540C....@news.eternal-september.org>,

I never claimed the OP said there was an epidemic either; but he did
make statements about a supposedly widespread issue that I believe isn't
nearly as widespread as he believes - thus my use of the word. If you
don't agree with my choice of words, you'll just have to figure out a
way to deal with that on your own, or with assistance from a friend.