Migrating a physical Win machine to a mac?
uu...@rujustfake.oat
mac. However, I must almost daily run some Window apps.
For this purpose, I use an almost six year old Dell with a WinXP Pro
installation (OEM) loaded with the specific apps I need.
Vmware Fusion and/or Parallels seem like my answer. Both have a
migration tool to convert a Windows physical machine to a virtual
machine. I thought I was all set to make the big leap.
Now reading various information and the trouble some are having I am
not certain of what works and what doesn't.
Appreciate if anyone can answer these questions:
Will I be able to migrate this Dell machine to a VM on a mac?
Will I be able to activate the VM with Microsoft (even though its a
OEM licence for XP)?
Not knowing which is better, will I be able to do this separately in
both Fusion and Parallels? Run both on same mac while I decide which I
like more or less?
TIA
Jolly Roger
uu...@rujustfake.oat wrote:
> I am getting seduced by Apple and seriously considering switching to
> mac. However, I must almost daily run some Window apps.
>
> For this purpose, I use an almost six year old Dell with a WinXP Pro
> installation (OEM) loaded with the specific apps I need.
>
> Vmware Fusion and/or Parallels seem like my answer. Both have a
> migration tool to convert a Windows physical machine to a virtual
> machine. I thought I was all set to make the big leap.
>
> Now reading various information and the trouble some are having I am
> not certain of what works and what doesn't.
>
> Appreciate if anyone can answer these questions:
>
> Will I be able to migrate this Dell machine to a VM on a mac?
I would imagine the VMware Fusion / Parallels Desktop folks would be
able to best answer that question. What makes you think it might not
work?
> Will I be able to activate the VM with Microsoft (even though its a
> OEM licence for XP)?
It may require a quick phone call to Microsoft's automated activation
number, but yep. Seems like it should be fine.
> Not knowing which is better, will I be able to do this separately in
> both Fusion and Parallels? Run both on same mac while I decide which I
> like more or less?
WHile it's technically possible, you may have activation issues to work
around since you'd be running the same copy of Windows on two "machines"
at once.
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macwa...@rujustfake.oat
wrote:
>In article <5a08h59cqu2uq3ocm...@4ax.com>,
> uu...@rujustfake.oat wrote:
>
>> I am getting seduced by Apple and seriously considering switching to
>> mac. However, I must almost daily run some Window apps.
>>
>> For this purpose, I use an almost six year old Dell with a WinXP Pro
>> installation (OEM) loaded with the specific apps I need.
>>
>> Vmware Fusion and/or Parallels seem like my answer. Both have a
>> migration tool to convert a Windows physical machine to a virtual
>> machine. I thought I was all set to make the big leap.
>>
>> Now reading various information and the trouble some are having I am
>> not certain of what works and what doesn't.
>>
>> Appreciate if anyone can answer these questions:
>>
>> Will I be able to migrate this Dell machine to a VM on a mac?
>
>I would imagine the VMware Fusion / Parallels Desktop folks would be
>able to best answer that question. What makes you think it might not
>work?
Neither seem to have any pre-sale support that I can find. Their
forums seem sparce. Anyway, I come from a (I guess long gone) time
when the smartest answers would be found on usenet.
Reading various pieces on line makes me question whether a OEM
migration works:
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/243753?tstart=30
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=517
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSAcmjbmKYg
>
>> Will I be able to activate the VM with Microsoft (even though its a
>> OEM licence for XP)?
>
>It may require a quick phone call to Microsoft's automated activation
>number, but yep. Seems like it should be fine.
If you follow the links, it seems that may not be possible with an OEM
installation.
And that is what I don't understand.
The big selling point for both Fusion and Parallels is that you can
migrate your current physical windows machine. But if almost everyone
uses a machine that they bought with an OEM preinstalled OS, and such
can not be migrated readily, without paying Microsoft hundreds for a
new licence, the selling point is not so much a benefit.
Chris Ridd
> Neither seem to have any pre-sale support that I can find. Their
> forums seem sparce. Anyway, I come from a (I guess long gone) time
> when the smartest answers would be found on usenet.
>
> Reading various pieces on line makes me question whether a OEM
> migration works:
>
> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/243753?tstart=30
>
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=517
>
> and this
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSAcmjbmKYg
It isn't clear in the top link what's been done - is the user trying to
install a Windows OEM disk inside VMware (why else would you need to
enter a license key?), or are they trying to convert an existing
machine into a VM?
The second link doesn't talk about Windows OEM licenses. I'm not going
to watch YouTube right now :-)
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Chris
DM
> I am getting seduced by Apple and seriously considering switching to
> mac. However, I must almost daily run some Window apps.
>
I know your problem all too well. But are you completely certain that
the equivalent of the windows apps you need is not available for Macs?
Unless the apps you use are extremely unique chances are that similar
apps do exist on the Mac. They may work a bit different and are probably
called something else, but they probably exist.
Dawid Michalczyk
Fantasy iPhone wallpapers
http://www.art.eonworks.com/free/wallpapers/iphone-wallpapers.html
macwa...@rujustfake.oat
Some (like Metastock, including download services) may have mac
equivalents even as they don't come close to those particular apps.
But one is particular that I run nine hours a day, five days a week,
and is freeware to boot- where equivalent services run into the
hundreds of dollars, I can't imagine doing without:
Darrell Greenwood
from your URL, duplicated a Parallels virtual machine and installed
Quotetracker in it. It ran fine to my eye. My mac is a new MacBook Pro
2.8 Ghz.
I fiddled until I got a live display with numbers and took a
screenshot, now at http://tinypic.com/r/5z2y49/6.
Cheers,
Darrell
In article <51qih5504n0g6muh3...@4ax.com>,
macwa...@rujustfake.oat
I always assumed Quoteracker would work in Parallels (or Fusion)
running a Windows OS, that's not my issue.
My issue, and I find conflicting answers all over the place, is
whether I can migrate my current Win XP Pro system-from a Dell with an
OEM installation - into a VM and not run into Microsoft activation
problems.
Paul Woodsford
"macwa...@rujustfake.oat" <macwa...@rujustfake.oat> wrote:
The short answer is NO.
The OEM version is usually tied into a particular Chipset/MB, in your case
DELL. It would probably be easier all round to get a full Copy of XP and
install to your BootCamp Partition and take it from there. This will be less
problematic than trying to get an OEM copy to install.
Full XP from Legal reseller on eBay http://tinyurl.com/ykhq3fg
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Jamie Kahn Genet
It might well work with WINE/Crossover for Mac
<http://www.codeweavers.com/> which is cheaper and a _lot_ lighter on
system resources than running a virtualisation app with Windows.
FYI - there is also a free virtualisation app from sun called VirtualBox
<http://www.virtualbox.org/>. Since you don't want to run a game or
other high powered app it should do just fine. But try WINE/Crossover
first!
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Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <5a08h59cqu2uq3ocm...@4ax.com>,
> uu...@rujustfake.oat wrote:
[snip]
> > Not knowing which is better, will I be able to do this separately in
> > both Fusion and Parallels? Run both on same mac while I decide which I
> > like more or less?
>
> WHile it's technically possible, you may have activation issues to work
> around since you'd be running the same copy of Windows on two "machines"
> at once.
My vote is with the excellent Fusion 3 anyway. After dealing with the
lack of documentation which plagues both products (no winners there
unfortunately) Fusion has worked really well for me from v1 on up with
nary a hitch.