OSX and Usenet?
misifus
is there a way to access Usenet newgroups directly in OSX?
In the meantime, I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2.
-Raf
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Pete Stephenson
misifus <rsei...@cox-internet.com> wrote:
> I know that OSX includes built in support for web and mail, but
> is there a way to access Usenet newgroups directly in OSX?
>
> In the meantime, I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2.
I'm not entirely sure about anything *built in*. Indeed, OS X doesn't
really have built-in support for the web and mail...that's handled by
Safari and Mail.app, respectively. The fact that they come with the OS
doesn't mean that the OS natively supports it.
Now, the integration of Windows and Internet Explorer is a totally
different story.
I personally use MT-Newswatcher (available from versiontracker.com) for
accessing usenet. It's a most excellent piece of software, is free, and
quite robust.
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Pete Stephenson
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TaliesinSoft
(in article <pete-99174C.0...@news.newsguy.com>):
> I personally use MT-Newswatcher (available from versiontracker.com) for
> accessing usenet. It's a most excellent piece of software, is free, and quite
> robust.
Actually MT-NewsWatcher is "donation" ware. Here's a snippet directly from
the MT-NewsWatcher website....
========================================
Software costs money to develop: hardware has to be maintained, development
tools updated, and there are web hosting costs. My time is free, but
unfortunately these other costs are unavoidable.
If you've used MT-NewsWatcher over the years and would like to show your
appreciation with a donation, please use this PayPal button to donate an
amount that you think is appropriate (say, $20).
========================================
It would be interesting to know how many of those who regularly use
MT-NewsWatcher have had the courtesy to help support its continued
development.
-- James L. Ryan -- TaliesinSoft
Pete Stephenson
TaliesinSoft <talies...@mac.com> wrote:
> Actually MT-NewsWatcher is "donation" ware. Here's a snippet directly from
> the MT-NewsWatcher website....
[snip]
> It would be interesting to know how many of those who regularly use
> MT-NewsWatcher have had the courtesy to help support its continued
> development.
Hmm. I was unaware of that. I believe at the time I downloaded it, it
was freeware. Since that has clearly changed, and I frequently use the
software (wait, I use it daily!), I'll donate some cash shortly.
--
Pete Stephenson
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David Besack
> accessing usenet. It's a most excellent piece of software, is free, and
> quite robust.
Thunderbird from Mozilla is also free and pretty easy to use.
Bev A. Kupf
misifus (rsei...@cox-internet.com) wrote:
> I know that OSX includes built in support for web and mail, but
> is there a way to access Usenet newgroups directly in OSX?
Apple does provide a newsreader with OS X. Here's how you access
it.
Open Terminal. Type "export NNTPSERVER=FQDN_of_your_server" or
"export NNTPSERVER=ip_address_of_your_news_server". Hit return.
Now type "emacs" and hit return. Once emacs loads, hit the "esc"
key and then "x". Now the bottom left-hand corner of the emacs
window will say "M-x ". Type "gnus", so it reads "M-x gnus",
and hit return.
This is the newsreader that Apple provides with OS X.
--
Bev A. Kupf
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about ways to harm our country and our people, and neither
do we." -- G.W. Bush, August 5, 2004.
misifus
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:00:50 -0500,
> misifus (rsei...@cox-internet.com) wrote:
>
>>I know that OSX includes built in support for web and mail, but
>>is there a way to access Usenet newgroups directly in OSX?
>
>
> Apple does provide a newsreader with OS X. Here's how you access
> it.
>
> Open Terminal. Type "export NNTPSERVER=FQDN_of_your_server" or
> "export NNTPSERVER=ip_address_of_your_news_server". Hit return.
>
> Now type "emacs" and hit return. Once emacs loads, hit the "esc"
> key and then "x". Now the bottom left-hand corner of the emacs
> window will say "M-x ". Type "gnus", so it reads "M-x gnus",
> and hit return.
>
> This is the newsreader that Apple provides with OS X.
>
Interesting! I tried it. After typing the second alternative of
the first line, all I got was "Command not found, 'export'".
I guess I'm not holding my mouth right.
Stephen Harker
> Bev A. Kupf wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:00:50 -0500,
> > misifus (rsei...@cox-internet.com) wrote:
> >
> > Open Terminal. Type "export NNTPSERVER=FQDN_of_your_server" or
> > "export NNTPSERVER=ip_address_of_your_news_server". Hit return.
> > Now type "emacs" and hit return. Once emacs loads, hit the "esc"
> > key and then "x". Now the bottom left-hand corner of the emacs
> > window will say "M-x ". Type "gnus", so it reads "M-x gnus",
> > and hit return.
> > This is the newsreader that Apple provides with OS X.
>
> Interesting! I tried it. After typing the second alternative of the
> first line, all I got was "Command not found, 'export'".
Clearly you are not using the bash shell (default in 10.3). If you
are using 10.2 or below (or migrated from it) then you are likely
using tcsh rather than bash. The shell syntax is different. You can
check the shell in terminal by typing "set | grep -i shell".
So, type "setenv NNTPSERVER=ip_address_of_your_news_server" or
"setenv NNTPSERVER=FQDN_of_your_server". Then follow the above steps
for emacs.
--
Stephen Harker Stephen...@spme.monash.edu.au
School of Physics & Materials Engineering
Monash University
Ray Laughton
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:00:50 -0500,
> misifus (rsei...@cox-internet.com) wrote:
> > I know that OSX includes built in support for web and mail, but
> > is there a way to access Usenet newgroups directly in OSX?
>
> Apple does provide a newsreader with OS X. Here's how you access
> it.
>
> Open Terminal. Type "export NNTPSERVER=FQDN_of_your_server" or
> "export NNTPSERVER=ip_address_of_your_news_server". Hit return.
>
> Now type "emacs" and hit return. Once emacs loads, hit the "esc"
> key and then "x". Now the bottom left-hand corner of the emacs
> window will say "M-x ". Type "gnus", so it reads "M-x gnus",
> and hit return.
>
> This is the newsreader that Apple provides with OS X.
Gosh, sounds like software every Mac user dreams about.
Easy, intuitive and totally GUI. :-/
No doubt the migrating PC nerds will love it...
Safari's ok for the web, Mail ok for email.
For usenet I'll stick to MacSoup thanks.
RL
David Lennier
[...]
> Now type "emacs" and hit return.
Again, we see that EMACS is a great operating system. It even runs "on
top" of other OSs. Unfortunately it lacks a good texteditor... ;-)
Jim Janney
Make that "setenv NNTPSERVER ip_address_of_your_news_server" or
"setenv NNTPSERVER FQDN_of_your_server". In other words, when using
setenv leave out the equals sign.
--
Jim Janney
Bev A. Kupf
Ray Laughton (rlau...@invalid.com) wrote:
> Gosh, sounds like software every Mac user dreams about.
> Easy, intuitive and totally GUI. :-/
If you want a GUI, run LucidEmacs or Xemacs under X11.
> No doubt the migrating PC nerds will love it...
I suspect you'll find very very few PC users who have ever used Emacs.
misifus
Thanks. I am using the tcsh shell. It seems to be working.
Thank you all again.
Emily Jackson
> On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 15:48:04 +0200,
> Ray Laughton (rlau...@invalid.com) wrote:
>
>> Gosh, sounds like software every Mac user dreams about.
>> Easy, intuitive and totally GUI. :-/
>
> If you want a GUI, run LucidEmacs or Xemacs under X11.
GnuEmacs also runs under X11.
I would not be using Gnus/Emacs if I weren't desperate for a stable,
free newsreader that works well with Giganews. Gnus has to be the only
newsreader in the history of computing with a 500+-page manual. :-\
Emily
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