old-fart system question (SE/30)
Foo
again. It has its PDS filled with a RasterOps Colorboard264 video card. I'd
like to add an ethernet controller to it as well. If I recall correctly a
few PDS-based ethernet cards had passthrough connectors so I could keep the
video card in use as well. Anyone remember who's card I could use?
I've seen a few asante cards on Ebay with a PDS on its card, but it is
angled 90 degrees from the position of the motherboard PDS, and I'm not
really sure I could stick the video card in the thing and have it fit or
work. I also know there are some scsi-based ethernet 'bridges,' but I may
toss NetBSD on this box and I'm not really sure it will be supported. My
only other option will probably be serial/PPP to my linux router.
Any suggestions? Ideas? Help my little SE/30 revisit the land of the living!
:)
thx,
-r (an iBook or 12" TiBook is on the short-purchase list. .but has to wait
for re-employment :/)
NeoLuddite
"Foo" <red...@charter.net> wrote:
> I've an Old SE/30 I'm soon to pull out of retirement and play with once
> again. It has its PDS filled with a RasterOps Colorboard264 video card. I'd
> like to add an ethernet controller to it as well. If I recall correctly a
> few PDS-based ethernet cards had passthrough connectors so I could keep the
> video card in use as well. Anyone remember who's card I could use?
>
> I've seen a few asante cards on Ebay with a PDS on its card, but it is
> angled 90 degrees from the position of the motherboard PDS, and I'm not
> really sure I could stick the video card in the thing and have it fit or
> work. I also know there are some scsi-based ethernet 'bridges,' but I may
> toss NetBSD on this box and I'm not really sure it will be supported. My
> only other option will probably be serial/PPP to my linux router.
>
> Any suggestions? Ideas? Help my little SE/30 revisit the land of the living!
Take a look at this page for some info and resources:
http://www.lowendmac.com/compact/se30.shtml
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Clark Martin
> I've an Old SE/30 I'm soon to pull out of retirement and play with once
> again. It has its PDS filled with a RasterOps Colorboard264 video card. I'd
> like to add an ethernet controller to it as well. If I recall correctly a
> few PDS-based ethernet cards had passthrough connectors so I could keep the
> video card in use as well. Anyone remember who's card I could use?
>
> I've seen a few asante cards on Ebay with a PDS on its card, but it is
> angled 90 degrees from the position of the motherboard PDS, and I'm not
> really sure I could stick the video card in the thing and have it fit or
> work. I also know there are some scsi-based ethernet 'bridges,' but I may
> toss NetBSD on this box and I'm not really sure it will be supported. My
> only other option will probably be serial/PPP to my linux router.
>
> Any suggestions? Ideas? Help my little SE/30 revisit the land of the living!
> :)
All the Ethernet NICs with pass through were really designed with the
IIsi in mind, it takes the same PDS cards. Those NICs are laid out
similar to the PDS Adapter that Apple sold for the IIsi and the case was
designed to take cards that way. The SE/30 was only designed to take
the single card. That said I don't know of hardware or software reason
such a card couldn't be used. AFAIK there is only the issues of fitting
the cards in and bringing the connectors out to the back panel.
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Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting
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Dan K
> I've an Old SE/30 I'm soon to pull out of retirement and play with once
> again. It has its PDS filled with a RasterOps Colorboard264 video card. I'd
> like to add an ethernet controller to it as well. If I recall correctly a
> few PDS-based ethernet cards had passthrough connectors so I could keep the
> video card in use as well. Anyone remember who's card I could use?
>
> I've seen a few asante cards on Ebay with a PDS on its card, but it is
> angled 90 degrees from the position of the motherboard PDS, and I'm not
> really sure I could stick the video card in the thing and have it fit or
> work. I also know there are some scsi-based ethernet 'bridges,' but I may
> toss NetBSD on this box and I'm not really sure it will be supported. My
> only other option will probably be serial/PPP to my linux router.
>
> Any suggestions? Ideas? Help my little SE/30 revisit the land of the living!
> :)
Foo will want to visit:
<http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/>
<http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30_pds_multiple.html>
Gamba's site is a great resource with lots of vintage-Mac-hacking info.
The Asante card I have (MC3 IIsi) has that 90 degree passthrough, but
see the Gamba page above for a reasonable workaround.
hth,
Dan
bargepole
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> I've an Old SE/30 I'm soon to pull out of retirement and play with once
> again. It has its PDS filled with a RasterOps Colorboard264 video card.
I'd
> like to add an ethernet controller to it as well. If I recall correctly a
> few PDS-based ethernet cards had passthrough connectors so I could keep
the
> video card in use as well. Anyone remember who's card I could use?
>
> I've seen a few asante cards on Ebay with a PDS on its card, but it is
> angled 90 degrees from the position of the motherboard PDS, and I'm not
> really sure I could stick the video card in the thing and have it fit or
> work. I also know there are some scsi-based ethernet 'bridges,' but I may
> toss NetBSD on this box and I'm not really sure it will be supported. My
> only other option will probably be serial/PPP to my linux router.
>
> Any suggestions? Ideas? Help my little SE/30 revisit the land of the
living!
Asante MacCon 30si network card has a PDS pass-through connector oriented
parallel to the SE/30 logic board. To add a second PDS card, here are 2
suggestions.
1/ Remove your floppy and remount the hard drive on edge close to the power
supply to make room for the second card installation.
2/ Get a 120 pin, 90 degree Eurodin (PDS) pcboard mount connector. By
inserting the pins into the Asante's pass-through port, a second card can be
added. The second card will be perpendicular to the logic board and offset
from the network card. PDS sockets can be bought here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/se30_pds_multiple.html#sal
If it's networking you specifically want to add, you could use an Asante
EN/SC SCSI to Ethernet adapter. Network speed is much faster than LocalTalk
thru serial but slower than using an internal network card on an SE/30.