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Bill Taylor

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Nov 18, 2002, 10:26:21 PM11/18/02
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Hi,

I'm having something of a nightmare trying to get my newly installed
network going, and therefore need 'help'.

I've installed a router, Netgear RP614, and have my DSL connection and
main computer, a G3 attached to it. Also attached to the router is a
LaserWriter Select 360 using an Ethernet cable between the router and a
'Micro Asante Print' bridge box. Between this Bridge and the 360 are
Farallon PhoneNet connectors. This much of my setup seems to work fine,
and without failure.

Attached to another port on the router is my old, but trusty SE/30 using
an 'Asante Talk' box. This Asante Talk box and router are connected
through a Ethernet cable. Then between the SE/30 and Asante Talk box,
I've used more Farallon PhoneNet connectors to network the SE/30 and an
old Performa 5200CD.

Although these two separate networks setups work fine together on their
own; the problem I'm having is getting both networks 'talking' to one
another - allowing Internet access to all machines.

I've checked and confirmed the correct AppleTalk settings in that
control panels. However, I think the fault lies in how I should
configure TCP/IP.

Does this seem like the correct analysis, so far? If not, could someone
please clarify.

Either way, does anyone know what I need to do in order to get all
machines networked and 'talking' with one another?

Many thanks in advance for any and all insights.

Determined to make this work.

Bill Taylor

Geoffrey

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Nov 19, 2002, 6:50:31 AM11/19/02
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Bill Taylor <i.can.be...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Although these two separate networks setups work fine together on their
> own; the problem I'm having is getting both networks 'talking' to one
> another - allowing Internet access to all machines.

That's because the box which bridges the two networks - your trusty but
dusty SE/30 - needs some kind of bridging software.

The right kind should still be available from Apple - look in their "Old
& Unsupported Software" section for something called "LocalTalk Bridge".


Geoffrey

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Dan K

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Nov 19, 2002, 3:45:28 PM11/19/02
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In article <1flx2j7.1g5jozs1xjaaw3N@[192.168.0.170]>, Geoffrey
<goaEXCESSBA...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Bill Taylor <i.can.be...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Although these two separate networks setups work fine together on their
> > own; the problem I'm having is getting both networks 'talking' to one
> > another - allowing Internet access to all machines.
>
> That's because the box which bridges the two networks - your trusty but
> dusty SE/30 - needs some kind of bridging software.
>
> The right kind should still be available from Apple - look in their "Old
> & Unsupported Software" section for something called "LocalTalk Bridge".
>
>
> Geoffrey

Geoffrey, Bill needs to bridge TCP/IP or multihome on the SE/30, if I
get the gist of the explanation. For that one could use IPnetrouter.

I think the problem might be that the Asante Talk box may not 'speak'
TCP/IP.

Solutions include adding enet cards to the SE/30 (PDS slot card) and/or
the P5200 (either LC-slot _or_ CommSlot 1.) If a PDS NIC can't be found
for the SE/30, an Asante Etherwave Printer or PB adapter would be a
cheapish bit, and for the 5200 LC-slot NICs are widely available on
eBay for well under $10.

hth,

Dan K

Geoffrey

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Nov 21, 2002, 10:37:33 AM11/21/02
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Dan K <dankeSN...@macSNIP.com> wrote:

> Geoffrey, Bill needs to bridge TCP/IP or multihome on the SE/30, if I
> get the gist of the explanation. For that one could use IPnetrouter.

That's true enough, but I've successfully managed to have a LocalTalk
Bridge-equipped machine (a IIci) let a Classic II use NCSA Telnet to
talk to the internet via a PC that handled the house internet
connection.

> I think the problem might be that the Asante Talk box may not 'speak'
> TCP/IP.

Now that you mention it, I've heard this also.

Whichever bridging software is used (LocalTalk Bridge, IPNetROuter,
etc), the machine that runs it should have a real ethernet card in it.
It's the only way to be sure.

Dan K

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Nov 21, 2002, 5:13:18 PM11/21/02
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In article <1fly7xs.1bsacnbwi03b4N@[192.168.0.170]>, Geoffrey
<goaEXCESSBA...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dan K <dankeSN...@macSNIP.com> wrote:
>
> > Geoffrey, Bill needs to bridge TCP/IP or multihome on the SE/30, if I
> > get the gist of the explanation. For that one could use IPnetrouter.
>
> That's true enough, but I've successfully managed to have a LocalTalk
> Bridge-equipped machine (a IIci) let a Classic II use NCSA Telnet to
> talk to the internet via a PC that handled the house internet
> connection.

He he, are you saying that LTB will bridge TCP/IP too?!?

If so, that is extremely cool and news to me! I'd always assumed it
bridged AT packets only.

Dan K

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