Anyone got Mac classic Mac emulation running well on their Intel Mac?
Jamie Kahn Genet
classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
both it and OSX.
*sigh*
Has anyone had any sucess? Why is classic Mac emulation so way behind
other emulation efforts? With Amiga emulation running it's surprising
classic Mac emulation is so far behind :-(
TIA,
Jamie Kahn Genet
--
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Bo Lindbergh
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
> runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> both it and OSX.
Opened by both _at the same time_? That spells "inevitable corruption".
/Bo Lindbergh
Jolly Roger
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Despite switching to DOSBox and VMware's Fusion with WinXP to handle my
> classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
> desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
>
> I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
> runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> both it and OSX.
>
> *sigh*
SheepShaver runs okay here on my Mac Pro. How did it fail for you?
> Has anyone had any sucess? Why is classic Mac emulation so way behind
> other emulation efforts? With Amiga emulation running it's surprising
> classic Mac emulation is so far behind :-(
Probably because not many people care, unfortunately!
--
Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me.
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting
messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google
Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.
JR
ZnU
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Despite switching to DOSBox and VMware's Fusion with WinXP to handle my
> classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
> desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
>
> I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
> runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> both it and OSX.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Has anyone had any sucess? Why is classic Mac emulation so way behind
> other emulation efforts? With Amiga emulation running it's surprising
> classic Mac emulation is so far behind :-(
It's probably so far behind because it wasn't that necessary until the
Intel switch. OS 9 in Classic still ran a lot of old Mac games even on
the last PPC systems Apple ever made.
The requirement for emulators to use old Mac ROMs introduces tricky
legal issues as well. While these same issues exist in theory for other
old platforms, they tend not to exist in practice because when compared
with Apple, the companies with rights to the intellectual property
involved with other vintage computers are rather more... dead.
(Hmm, your post caused me to go take a look at some of this stuff. I
find it rather amusing that I can download System 7 -- the system that
came on my first Mac, a Quadra 660AV -- in about five seconds. Wonder if
I'll be able to download Leopard in five seconds in another 15 years.
That would require consumer Internet speeds to be about 1000x faster.
And would require rather faster local storage as well, obviously.)
--
"If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all
things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in
our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your
answer." -- Barack Obama, November 4th, 2008
Jamie Kahn Genet
Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <1ir0ubk.1do5ism18148vsN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Despite switching to DOSBox and VMware's Fusion with WinXP to handle my
> > classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
> > desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
> >
> > I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
> > runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> > both it and OSX.
> >
> > *sigh*
>
> SheepShaver runs okay here on my Mac Pro. How did it fail for you?
SS and Basilisk crashed at various resolutions and upon running most old
games I wished to run, e.g MOO2 which I have now bought for the PC and
run in DOSBox. But I wish I could still run Mac only games like
Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive.
May I ask how you got SS to run well? What ROM/MacOS version? What
software do you commonly run?
> > Has anyone had any sucess? Why is classic Mac emulation so way behind
> > other emulation efforts? With Amiga emulation running it's surprising
> > classic Mac emulation is so far behind :-(
>
> Probably because not many people care, unfortunately!
I suppose :-(
Tom Stiller
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1ir0ubk.1do5ism18148vsN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >
> > > Despite switching to DOSBox and VMware's Fusion with WinXP to handle my
> > > classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
> > > desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
> > >
> > > I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
> > > runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> > > both it and OSX.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> >
> > SheepShaver runs okay here on my Mac Pro. How did it fail for you?
>
> SS and Basilisk crashed at various resolutions and upon running most old
> games I wished to run, e.g MOO2 which I have now bought for the PC and
> run in DOSBox. But I wish I could still run Mac only games like
> Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive.
>
> May I ask how you got SS to run well? What ROM/MacOS version? What
> software do you commonly run?
>
Try <http://macwp.com/files/SS-WP%201.1.zip>. It's an implementation
that supports shared folders between OS 9 and Mac OS.
--
Tom Stiller
PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
Jolly Roger
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1ir0ubk.1do5ism18148vsN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >
> > > Despite switching to DOSBox and VMware's Fusion with WinXP to handle my
> > > classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
> > > desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
> > >
> > > I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
> > > runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> > > both it and OSX.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> >
> > SheepShaver runs okay here on my Mac Pro. How did it fail for you?
>
> SS and Basilisk crashed at various resolutions and upon running most old
> games I wished to run, e.g MOO2 which I have now bought for the PC and
> run in DOSBox. But I wish I could still run Mac only games like
> Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive.
Ok so SheepShaver did run. You just couldn't get specific games working
in it. There's a big difference between the two!
> May I ask how you got SS to run well?
I just set it up with 1024x768 running a ROM from my PowerMac G3 and Mac
OS 9.01. I have to admit I haven't tried running any games in it.
> What ROM/MacOS version?
This one:
<http://preview.tinyurl.com/6r24pr>
> What software do you commonly run?
To be honest, nothing anymore. I still have it installed, but haven't
booted it up in months. But I did use it to run Adobe FrameMaker for
hours on end. It did crash occasionally, but I was able to get work
done, which is the main thing.
I think you're probably going to have more problems with games than you
would with other types of applications, because game developers
routinely cut corners in classic Mac OS to get better performance or do
things in ways Apple's APIs don't support directly.
Jamie Kahn Genet
Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <1ir195l.104qinqe1ifb8N%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1ir0ubk.1do5ism18148vsN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Despite switching to DOSBox and VMware's Fusion with WinXP to handle my
> > > > classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
> > > > desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried and failed to get Ballisk and SheepShaver running. Mini vMac
> > > > runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> > > > both it and OSX.
> > > >
> > > > *sigh*
> > >
> > > SheepShaver runs okay here on my Mac Pro. How did it fail for you?
> >
> > SS and Basilisk crashed at various resolutions and upon running most old
> > games I wished to run, e.g MOO2 which I have now bought for the PC and
> > run in DOSBox. But I wish I could still run Mac only games like
> > Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive.
>
> Ok so SheepShaver did run. You just couldn't get specific games working
> in it. There's a big difference between the two!
Booting sucessfully is one thing. Running an app without crashing is
another.
> > May I ask how you got SS to run well?
>
> I just set it up with 1024x768 running a ROM from my PowerMac G3 and Mac
> OS 9.01. I have to admit I haven't tried running any games in it.
Yeah, sadly that's when it all fell apart for me.
> > What ROM/MacOS version?
>
> This one:
>
> <http://preview.tinyurl.com/6r24pr>
Cheers JR, I'll give them a go! :-)
> > What software do you commonly run?
>
> To be honest, nothing anymore. I still have it installed, but haven't
> booted it up in months. But I did use it to run Adobe FrameMaker for
> hours on end. It did crash occasionally, but I was able to get work
> done, which is the main thing.
>
> I think you're probably going to have more problems with games than you
> would with other types of applications, because game developers
> routinely cut corners in classic Mac OS to get better performance or do
> things in ways Apple's APIs don't support directly.
I guess. Well, I'll give your ROMs a go and hope they work out better
for me.
Cheers,
Jamie Kahn Genet
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz
> In article <1ir195l.104qinqe1ifb8N%jami...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jami...@wizardling.geek.nz (JamieKahnGenet) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Jolly Roger <jollyro...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <1ir0ubk.1do5ism18148vsN%jami...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > > jami...@wizardling.geek.nz (JamieKahnGenet) wrote:
>
> > > > Despite switching to DOSBox and VMware's Fusion with WinXP to handle my
> > > > classic gaming needs, there are still a bunch of classic MacOS games I'm
> > > > desperate to run on my Intel Mac.
>
> > > > runs but has a nasty, nasty habbit of corrupting disk images opened in
> > > > both it and OSX.
>
> > > > *sigh*
>
>
> > SS and Basilisk crashed at various resolutions and upon running most old
> > games I wished to run, e.g MOO2 which I have now bought for the PC and
> > run in DOSBox. But I wish I could still run Mac only games like
> > Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive.
>
> > May I ask how you got SS to run well? What ROM/MacOS version? What
> > software do you commonly run?
>
> Try <http://macwp.com/files/SS-WP%201.1.zip>. It's an implementation
> that supports shared folders between OS 9 and Mac OS.
Nope, it's broken - I get <http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?
image=picture94tm3.png> no matter how many times I run Disk Utility on
the image. DU finds no errors BTW. I'm surprised this was never tested
before release.
Jamie Kahn Genet
P.S. Excuse the doubleposting. I tried GG first cause I was away from
home - yuck! It didn't seem to work, but later the post showed up. Oh
well, at least people who don't wisely filter GG posts will now see it.
Ymir
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
Just dismiss that particular error and delete the associated script from
the startup items folder. It works fine.
André
Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <1ir0ubk.1do5ism18148vsN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > *sigh*
> >
> > Has anyone had any sucess?
>
>
> Yes, I have Sheepshaver running fine. It runs Pro Pinball better than
> Classic- no hiccups at all.
>
> It boots OS9 quickly and connects to my OSX folders.
>
> Only thing my laptop fan runs constantly so I fear it may be heating up
> the processor too much.
Huh - it couldn't run Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive without
major stuttering on my 2.8GHz Intel 24" iMac. How are you getting such
good performance? As for classic - it was much better than SS - of
course that was on PPC Macs.
Jamie Kahn Genet
NM, it turns out using Stuffit Expander v13 to decompress the zip file
damages the DMG image. Weird but true. Don't ask me why I was using
Stuffit which I know sucks. Using OSX's archive utility worked fine. No
errors now.
Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <1is8uoz.1e0ilgx185fbirN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Huh - it couldn't run Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive without
> > major stuttering on my 2.8GHz Intel 24" iMac. How are you getting such
> > good performance? As for classic - it was much better than SS - of
> > course that was on PPC Macs.
>
>
>
> In the SS GUI, go to the "Graphics/Sound" tab and change the refresh
> rate to 60 Hz.
>
> I'll bet that fixes it.
Afraid not. It still stutters badly and can't even play Harry's music
smoothly which I guess shouldn't surprise me given SS uses 20% of my CPU
just doping nothing. If that's what it takes to run the clock in System
7.5's menubar I don't think games are realistic for me :-( What machine
are you running SS on?
Jolly Roger
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> M-M <nospa...@ny.more> wrote:
>
> > In article <1is8uoz.1e0ilgx185fbirN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >
> > > Huh - it couldn't run Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive without
> > > major stuttering on my 2.8GHz Intel 24" iMac. How are you getting such
> > > good performance? As for classic - it was much better than SS - of
> > > course that was on PPC Macs.
> >
> > In the SS GUI, go to the "Graphics/Sound" tab and change the refresh
> > rate to 60 Hz.
> >
> > I'll bet that fixes it.
>
> Afraid not. It still stutters badly and can't even play Harry's music
> smoothly which I guess shouldn't surprise me given SS uses 20% of my CPU
> just doping nothing. If that's what it takes to run the clock in System
> 7.5's menubar I don't think games are realistic for me :-( What machine
> are you running SS on?
Couldn't you save yourself all this headache by simply buying a cheap,
used classic Mac on eBay to play these old games?
Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <1is9ps9.1pn0t5g1q2o8alN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > M-M <nospa...@ny.more> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <1is8uoz.1e0ilgx185fbirN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Huh - it couldn't run Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive without
> > > > major stuttering on my 2.8GHz Intel 24" iMac. How are you getting such
> > > > good performance? As for classic - it was much better than SS - of
> > > > course that was on PPC Macs.
> > >
> > > In the SS GUI, go to the "Graphics/Sound" tab and change the refresh
> > > rate to 60 Hz.
> > >
> > > I'll bet that fixes it.
> >
> > Afraid not. It still stutters badly and can't even play Harry's music
> > smoothly which I guess shouldn't surprise me given SS uses 20% of my CPU
> > just doping nothing. If that's what it takes to run the clock in System
> > 7.5's menubar I don't think games are realistic for me :-( What machine
> > are you running SS on?
>
> Couldn't you save yourself all this headache by simply buying a cheap,
> used classic Mac on eBay to play these old games?
True, even though the secondhand market here in NZ sucks it might be
worth doing just that *sigh*
Wes Groleau
> Couldn't you save yourself all this headache by simply buying a cheap,
> used classic Mac on eBay to play these old games?
I'll _give_ you a working Quadra if you're willing to
pay USA to New Zealand shipping. :-)
--
Wes Groleau
Free speech has its limits
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=99
Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <1is9ps9.1pn0t5g1q2o8alN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > It still stutters badly and can't even play Harry's music
> > smoothly which I guess shouldn't surprise me
>
> I downloaded a trial version and it seems to run fine. The music sounds
> a bit choppy though,
The ruined music is bad enough - just try running into a memo. As soon
as you interact with anything you get a major slowdown :-(
Jamie Kahn Genet
> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > Couldn't you save yourself all this headache by simply buying a cheap,
> > used classic Mac on eBay to play these old games?
>
> I'll _give_ you a working Quadra if you're willing to
> pay USA to New Zealand shipping. :-)
Heh, that's okay. I need to buy another CRT iMac or the like - something
that can run 8.6 (most compatible classic MacOS IME) and is fairly
speedy, yet inexpensive. If I hadn't already burnt through two CRT iMacs
already I'd be more keen. Both of mine died in the same month :-(
Thank you for the cool offer, though! *makes things worse for self by
asking* Just out of curiosity, which model Quadra is it?
Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet
Jolly Roger
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
...I loved my Quadras!! *reminiscing*
Jolly Roger
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1is9ps9.1pn0t5g1q2o8alN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >
> > > M-M <nospa...@ny.more> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <1is8uoz.1e0ilgx185fbirN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > > > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Huh - it couldn't run Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive without
> > > > > major stuttering on my 2.8GHz Intel 24" iMac. How are you getting such
> > > > > good performance? As for classic - it was much better than SS - of
> > > > > course that was on PPC Macs.
> > > >
> > > > In the SS GUI, go to the "Graphics/Sound" tab and change the refresh
> > > > rate to 60 Hz.
> > > >
> > > > I'll bet that fixes it.
> > >
> > > Afraid not. It still stutters badly and can't even play Harry's music
> > > smoothly which I guess shouldn't surprise me given SS uses 20% of my CPU
> > > just doping nothing. If that's what it takes to run the clock in System
> > > 7.5's menubar I don't think games are realistic for me :-( What machine
> > > are you running SS on?
> >
> > Couldn't you save yourself all this headache by simply buying a cheap,
> > used classic Mac on eBay to play these old games?
>
> True, even though the secondhand market here in NZ sucks it might be
> worth doing just that *sigh*
I love having older macs around for just this sort of thing. If I had
more room, I'd probably set up a sort of Mac museum room here! : D
Jamie Kahn Genet
> In article <1isa6zz.1y80go5k210pbN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
>
> > Wes Groleau <grolea...@freeshell.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Jolly Roger wrote:
> > > > Couldn't you save yourself all this headache by simply buying a cheap,
> > > > used classic Mac on eBay to play these old games?
> > >
> > > I'll _give_ you a working Quadra if you're willing to
> > > pay USA to New Zealand shipping. :-)
> >
> > Heh, that's okay. I need to buy another CRT iMac or the like - something
> > that can run 8.6 (most compatible classic MacOS IME) and is fairly
> > speedy, yet inexpensive. If I hadn't already burnt through two CRT iMacs
> > already I'd be more keen. Both of mine died in the same month :-(
> >
> > Thank you for the cool offer, though! *makes things worse for self by
> > asking* Just out of curiosity, which model Quadra is it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jamie Kahn Genet
>
> ...I loved my Quadras!! *reminiscing*
I have and old Quadra 700 without HD or RAM and it's unkown whether it
runs. I also had a Quadra 900 or maybe 950 - I forget. But NZ Post
destroyed in during transit :-( The jerks said I'd not packaged it well
enough for compensation, but they DROPPED it from several feet. There is
no other way the case could have been fractured so badly. Not even
styrofoam could have saved it from some damage in that instance (I'd
used a couple layers of bubblewrap and thich cardboard).
Still, what's really needed here is a PPC Mac that can run 8.6 or at the
very least 9.x. On the off chance a fellow kiwi has such a Mac, please
get in contact.
Wes Groleau
> Thank you for the cool offer, though! *makes things worse for self by
> asking* Just out of curiosity, which model Quadra is it?
Hmmm, I'll have to wade through all the other nostalgic clutter to
check. I _think_ it's a 25 MHz 68030.
--
Wes Groleau
"There ain't nothin' in this world that's worth being a snot over."
-- Larry Wall
Jamie Kahn Genet
> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> > Thank you for the cool offer, though! *makes things worse for self by
> > asking* Just out of curiosity, which model Quadra is it?
>
> Hmmm, I'll have to wade through all the other nostalgic clutter to
> check. I _think_ it's a 25 MHz 68030.
You mean '040?
isw
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> M-M <nospa...@ny.more> wrote:
>
> > In article <1is8uoz.1e0ilgx185fbirN%jam...@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
> >
> > > Huh - it couldn't run Ambrosia's Harry the Handsome Executive without
> > > major stuttering on my 2.8GHz Intel 24" iMac. How are you getting such
> > > good performance? As for classic - it was much better than SS - of
> > > course that was on PPC Macs.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the SS GUI, go to the "Graphics/Sound" tab and change the refresh
> > rate to 60 Hz.
> >
> > I'll bet that fixes it.
>
> Afraid not. It still stutters badly and can't even play Harry's music
> smoothly which I guess shouldn't surprise me given SS uses 20% of my CPU
> just doping nothing. If that's what it takes to run the clock in System
> 7.5's menubar I don't think games are realistic for me :-( What machine
> are you running SS on?
Sorry to be so late to the party. I've had SS running on my 1.8 Ghz
MacBook for a long time, where it's done a wonderful job with "Vellum"
(which requires the "SoftwareFPU" control panel), but stuttered badly on
games. After learning on this thread that some folks didn't have the
stutter problem, I went poking and found a much newer version of SS
which solves most of the problems (I still can't use the music on
"Greebles").
Google on "SheepShaver_UB_210708.zip"
I didn't do a reinstall; I just substituted the new version of SS for
the old; it was perfectly happy with the existing .prefs file.
Now I can play Pro Pinball again!
Does anybody know a fix for the mouse problem in Ambrosia's "Apeiron"?
Isaac
Jamie Kahn Genet
Cheers dude, I'll give it a go! :-)
> I didn't do a reinstall; I just substituted the new version of SS for
> the old; it was perfectly happy with the existing .prefs file.
>
> Now I can play Pro Pinball again!
>
> Does anybody know a fix for the mouse problem in Ambrosia's "Apeiron"?
>
> Isaac
Mouse problem? Hmmm... earlier versions of Apeiron would not work with
USB mice. Could this be your issue? How is SS handling the mouse? I'm
unsure. Anyone care to chime in?
Jamie Kahn Genet
Well, I got as far as updating QT to 6.0.3 and now I get the following
with any JPEG desktop picture:
<http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture97gx8.png> (Huh, why
didn't my screenshot work?). Well what you SHOULD see is a fractured and
damaged looking desktop picture. The same happens with 5.0.4. I also get
low memory errors for QT Player no matter how much RAM I give it :-(
Also - the 6.0.3 QT installer failed the first time around (though it
didn't know it). I was left with a broken QT install. I deleted all the
QT parts manually and reinstalled. No help with the above problems :-(
Oh dear. Is their a step by step guide to getting 8.6 working properly
under SS or is it impossible? Is OS 9 a better bet? The trouble is
several older games break under 9.
TIA,
Jamie Kahn Genet
isw
jam...@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:
--snippety snip--
> Oh dear. Is their a step by step guide to getting 8.6 working properly
> under SS or is it impossible? Is OS 9 a better bet? The trouble is
> several older games break under 9.
Everything I know of works fine up through 9.0.4; 9.1 and above break
lots of things.
Isaac
Wes Groleau
>> check. I _think_ it's a 25 MHz 68030.
>
> You mean '040?
Not what I meant, but probably what it was.
Pizza box, SCSI CDROM in the middle, floppy on the right,
hard drive on the left, AAUI ethernet in back, power supply behind the
floppy with a long rod or something from the button in front to the P.S.
--
Wes Groleau
Thinking It Through
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=476
Nick Naym
grolea...@freeshell.org wrote on 12/24/08 10:27 PM:
> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>> Wes Groleau <grolea...@freeshell.org> wrote:
>>> Hmmm, I'll have to wade through all the other nostalgic clutter to
>>> check. I _think_ it's a 25 MHz 68030.
>>
>> You mean '040?
>
> Not what I meant, but probably what it was.
> Pizza box, SCSI CDROM in the middle, floppy on the right,
> hard drive on the left, AAUI ethernet in back, power supply behind the
> floppy with a long rod or something from the button in front to the P.S.
Yup. '040 ...like my Centris 610.
--
iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) € OS X (10.5.4)
You
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:
> In article l4D4l.987$BC...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net, Wes Groleau at
> grolea...@freeshell.org wrote on 12/24/08 10:27 PM:
>
> > Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> >> Wes Groleau <grolea...@freeshell.org> wrote:
> >>> Hmmm, I'll have to wade through all the other nostalgic clutter to
> >>> check. I _think_ it's a 25 MHz 68030.
> >>
> >> You mean '040?
> >
> > Not what I meant, but probably what it was.
> > Pizza box, SCSI CDROM in the middle, floppy on the right,
> > hard drive on the left, AAUI ethernet in back, power supply behind the
> > floppy with a long rod or something from the button in front to the P.S.
>
> Yup. '040 ...like my Centris 610.
Like the 040 without the Math CoProcessor??????
Nick Naym
y...@shadow.orgs wrote on 12/25/08 5:15 PM:
That's what Apple was selling at the time.