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Info-Mac Digest Mon, 6 Apr 92 Volume 10 : Issue 90

Today's Topics:

[*] Comments about Nisus
[*] FontPrinter 2.0
[*] In Use 2.0
[*] MacPacMan
[*] sun-audio-mac.txt
[*] TM4 submission again
[*] veil-02.hqx
[*] White Knight 11.13 Updater
"Windows?" (second attempt...)
32-bit Quickdraw (A)
68000 Assembler (Q)
Alternate Universe ? (2 msgs)
Apple Single Format Interpeter
Auto-Doubler lies
Boy Scout Clip Art
BW/grey full page monitors for CI or SI
Cleaning Contacts (Q)
Converting Sounds (A)
DD, SD, avg users & power tools
DD/AD vs SD wars (C)
DeskWriter C 2.0 Driver Problems (3 msgs)
DeskWriter C drivers (2 msgs)
Deskwriter Driver 3.0
DeskWriter Paper
Diskspeed and directory problems
DOS virus on a Mac?
Excel 4.0???
Excell 4.0 (R)
Expanded Books Info
File creator wanted (Q)
Footnote on Spelling Checker (C)
forgetful folders
Help needed with net
hide always
HP95LX interface from Macintosh?
HP DeskWriter driver 3.0 is ready
Info-Mac Digest V10 #22 resend
Internet addresses
InUse cdev
Label Maker programs/suggestions (Q)
Latest Tune-Up does not work very well it seems (Comment)
Mac Animation
Macro Recorder under System 7 (Q)
MacZone
Marketing dpt of Apple ?
MDS Compression of MS programs
Modem Cable Pinout Needed
Monitors and Boards for SE/30
Need more than just the scoop on the Mac
need opinions on 13-15" color monitors (Q)
Personal DataBase Managers.
Printing keyboard symbols on a non-Apple PostScript device (Q)
Printing on stylewriter and Nisus
Problem w/ latest system 7 update
Question about SuperDisk: hazard in its style of "transparency"?
Reflex for the Mac? (A)
SCSI-Accelerator for System 7.0.1
Speed Tests on Mac IIsi with'n'out new tune-up
Strange Addresses
Strange Adresses and 'Second Class Citizens'
strange behavior of desktop icons...
Subscribing to Word-Mac Problem (A)
SUM II - an additional comment
Supra Modem
System 7, is that all there is?
Why does my Mac 2si Freeze up? (Q)
Word 5.0 crash on Classic (Q)
Word 5.0 Print Merge Problem (Q)
Word Mac list (A)

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:30:54 EDT
From: t...@ufcia.health.ufl.edu (Tim Cera)
Subject: [*] Comments about Nisus

I am uploading some thoughts about Nisus. We purchased Nisus
a couple weeks ago. When I sat down at it I took notes, because
I can become used to things and I wanted fresh ideas. There may
be work arounds, and I do want to know about them, but this is mainly
for people deciding on a work processer to look at my problems
with Nisus.

I suggest this be put in the reports directory.

I am also sending this to the Nisus Wish List fax number at (619)
481-6154. I you agree with anything I have in here or have other
suggestions send them in. Maybe programmers think everything
is hunky dory out in the real world :+)

tim cera
t...@ufcia.health.ufl.edu


[archived as /info-mac/report/nisus-first-impressions.txt; 5K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 92 15:05:43 -0800
From: and...@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Anderson)
Subject: [*] FontPrinter 2.0

**** Please replace all older versions of FontPrinter with this new one ****

FontPrinter is a program that allows you to print out all fonts currently
installed on your Mac. It lets you choose several different formats and you can
select different options and sizes to suit your own needs. New features in this
version include:

* PrintMonitor nows displays "FontPrinter Output" instead of "Unspecified"
* Default values for all setup options can be saved and are automatically
reloaded the next time FontPrinter is run
* You can now select the font and size FontPrinter uses to print the name of the
font when the "Include font name" option is selected
* Merged "FontPrinter Setup" and "More Options" dialogs into one main dialog

[Archived as /info-mac/app/font-printer-20.hqx; 33K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:43:33 -0600
From: s-rev...@uchicago.edu(Sendhil Revuluri)
Subject: [*] In Use 2.0

>I lost the note telling me where to find the DiskLight replacement
>called InUse. Could somebody repeat it, or even upload it to SUMEX?

Because of the growing demand for Sam Barone's In Use control panel, I am
posting it to Sumex. This is version 2.0, the latest I am aware of. It
seems to be compatible with both Systems 6 & 7, but I have not checked
extensively.

If you are using the Norton Utilities' DiskLight, cease! desist! DiskLight
has been reported to cause serious crashes, and continued use may be
hazardous to your data. Install In Use instead.

I have no connection with In Use. I am not the author. I don't even use it
anymore. But it's a good program.

--
Sendhil Revuluri * University Of Chicago * s-rev...@uchicago.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/in-use-20.hqx; 19K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 92 13:33:06 SST
From: tai...@iss.nus.sg (Tng Tai Hou)
Subject: [*] MacPacMan

This is PacMan. An exact clone of the original Atari game.
It runs in 256 colors only. Requires a 8-bits only card.
Didn't run on my GC card, but ran fine on my SI and my FX with
an 8-bits graphics card.

I am still unsure of its pd-status. But I feel such a great
game deserves to float around. If someone discovers that
it isn't pd or shareware, or can't be distributed, please
email me. I will try my best to persuade the rest to remove
their copies.

Tai Hou
Singapore

[Archived as /info-mac/game/pac-man.hqx; 51K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:50:21 PDT
From: Victor_J_He...@xerox.com
Subject: [*] sun-audio-mac.txt

I have attached a C program I wrote to convert Sun Microsystems u-law encoded
audio files to linear sound data files. The latter files can be read by
SoundMover ("Open any" mode) and converted to Mac snd resources. Anyone with a
Sun Sparcstation and a microphone ought to be able to make their own Mac sounds.
You have to remember to set the sampling rate in SoundMover to the value encoded
in the audio file (usually, if not always, 8.0 kHz.) SoundMaster will still want
to play them at 7.4 kHz, I think, but they sound OK.

There is no Makefile. You can simply "cc" it on your Sparcstation. If someone
incorporates this into a Mac utility (such as SoundMover, hint, hint) all I
ask is a free copy.

Please upload this to an appropriate directory.

Vic Heintz
vic:wbs...@xerox.com

[Archived as /info-mac/unix/sun-audio-mac.hqx; 5K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 02:56:57 -0500
From: Dan Walkowski <walk...@ta1.cs.uiuc.edu>
Subject: [*] TM4 submission again

Why pay $40 for TrashMaster, when you can have TrashMan for $10?

TrashMan scans and 'time-stamps' the files in your trash, deleting them after
they have been there 'a long time'. You decide what 'a long time' is, in days,
hours, and minutes.
TrashMan also allows the selective emptying of trash on particular volumes,
with optional ejecting afterwards (handy for dealing with floppies!).

TrashMan 4.0 runs as a faceless background app (not in the app menu!) and has
a completely rewritten algorithm, which scans incrementally and continuously,
(no more pauses as TM scans!). The Engine speed can be adjusted too!

It has now been split into 3 parts, the Engine, the Controls, and the Emptier.

Thousands of people worldwide use TrashMan. Give it a try today, and see what
the System 7 trash can _should_ have been like.

Dan Walkowski

(my apologies for the previously posted archive, which was damaged.)

[Archived as /info-mac/util/trash-man-40.hqx; 187K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:59:58 PDT
From: mac...@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU (Info-Mac Moderator)
Subject: [*] veil-02.hqx

Veil is a screen-saver init (extension) that blanks the screen after
two minutes of user inactivity (i.e. no keyboard or mouse activity).
It does not provide any cute graphics or swirling patterns while
preserving your screen, nor does it run on shutdown. Because of all
this, it is quite small (<3K). It is also free.

Veil 0.2 incorporates a number of minor changes to the source,
reorganization of the supporting documentation, and the addition of
repeated screen erasures to eliminate the stuff that does get written
to the screen under certain circumstances. A number of other bugs
are documented (but not fixed) in this release, including difficulties
with multiple monitors.

But hey, this is FreeWare, and I'm still working on it. Enjoy.

Brian D. Davison Department of Computer Science
Hill Center, Busch Campus
dav...@paul.rutgers.edu Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
!rutgers!paul.rutgers.edu!davison New Brunswick, NJ 08903

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/veil-02.hqx; 11K]

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 9:52:11 EDT
From: Kenneth Sussmann (PBMA) <suss...@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: [*] White Knight 11.13 Updater

Here is the updater to convert White Knight 11.12 to version 11.13.

According to the enclosed docs the following changes were made:
New As Of 11.13
--------------
1) Set "32 Bit Compatible" flag in SIZE resource for use with A/UX
and System 7.0.

2) Fixed two problems that occur when a call is placed from a Phonebook
entry when a Modem Driver is being used. First, the number being dialed
did not appear in the dialog box (for Modem Driver developers, this means
that the contents of D$ was not being filled with the number). Secondly,
if a Procedure was specified, it was not being executed.

3) Fixed white background bug under System 7.0 when timer is drawn on a
colored Status Bar (General or Macros).

4) A new option has been added to the high level printing options dialog
(select Customize->Options->Printer and then click on the "High Level Options"
button) to alleviate some problems we were having with the Apple Stylewriter
(and perhaps some others). Unless you are using a Postscript printer
*AND* VT102 emulation, the "Specific character positioning" option should
be left uncheckmarked.
Only if you are using *BOTH* a Postscript printer *AND* VT102 emulation
should you checkmark this item.

5) Made changes to cause sending text to happen much faster under System 7.0
when the text was sent:
1) Via "File->Send Text File" menu choice or SENDA Procedure command.
2) Via a macro key string.
3) Via a User Menu string.

6) Fixed bug in Kermit's 12-bit checksum routine. Also changed erroneous
labeling of the three error checking types in Customize->Options->Kermit
dialog box:
"1 byte checksum" is now listed as "6-bit checksum"
"2 byte checksum" is now listed as "12-bit checksum"
"3 byte CRC" is now listed as "16-bit CRC" (it never was three bytes!)
These changes were made to be more consistent with the various Kermit manuals
the user might encounter.

7) Under System 7, context switching between applications may now be
accomplished during dialing and redialing in the "Waiting for connection" phase.

8) Fixed bug in wordwrapping of text file sends for wordwrapping at 131
characters. 132 character wordwrapping is now the limit.

9) Fixed bug in ZMODEM which caused bad recovery of data overrun at baud rates
higher than 9600.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/white-knight-1113-updater.hqx; 340K]

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Date: MON, 06 APR 92 09:30 CDT
From: Joel Cunningham <DBA0007%UABTUCC...@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: "Windows?" (second attempt...)

I just saw this commercial on TV by a company called "Microsoft".
It was an ad for a product called "Windows" (I think). It said
that the average operation on a PC took twenty keystrokes, but
those could be replaced by one "point and click". BLEW ME AWAY!!!
Does anyone have any more information on this "point and click"
stuff? Is it for real? It's a great concept, but it really looks
like a toy, and I don't see how anyone could get any real work
done using it. How long can this "Microsoft" company survive
so far out on the cutting edge? Inquiring minds wanna know!

-- Joel "80 column" Cunnigham

P.S. Will this "Windows" thing run on my Sinclair Z-80?

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 07:23:38 -0600
From: wa...@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (Wade Williams)
Subject: 32-bit Quickdraw (A)

>1) What is 32-bit QuickDraw?

An INIT that extends and cleans up the color capabilites of your Mac.
(Layman's terms).

>2) Where can one find it?

On your System disks. In the 800K version, it's on the Printing
Tools diskette, in the Apple Color folder.

>3) Will it install on a SE/30 w/ 68030 and 68882 FPU?

Yes.

>4) Will it install on a Plus w/ accelerator board 68030 and 68882 FPU?

No. The Plus does not have Color QuickDraw in the ROMs.

Wade Williams
wa...@ducvax.auburn.edu

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Date: 6 Apr 92 16:32 +0000
From: DURTSCHIR%AC%C...@CSC.ISU.EDU
Subject: 68000 Assembler (Q)


Howdy folks,
does anyone know of a PD or Shareware assembler for 68000 that runs
on a mac?

Also, I am looking for a cross assembler for the intel 8751 that runs
on a mac.

Thanks for your time.

Bye for now,
Ralph Durtschi, Idaho State University

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:38:49 EST
From: George Tempel <tem...@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil>
Subject: Alternate Universe ?

Can anyone tell the net (and myself) what the recent submission
AlternateUniverse really does? and what format the documentation is in?

The digest description reads like Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum", which
I'm *still* trying to finish.

george f tempel
tem...@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil (144.252.1.1)
7604...@compuserve.com

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Date: 6 Apr 92 14:34:26 U
From: "George Tempel" <george...@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil>
Subject: Alternate Universe ?

Alternate Universe ?
Can anyone tell me what the recent submission "Alternate Universe" really does?
And what format the accompanying documentation is in? I've had zero luck trying
to open it here w/Word 4.0c....the file's description reads a bit like Umberto
Eco's Foucault's Pendulum...

george tempel
tem...@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 10:15:08 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEW...@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Apple Single Format Interpeter

On Sun, 5 Apr 1992 15:39 EST you said:
>The problem is sending a file to someone not using Mail. I am told it is
>because Mail encodes a file with (in) something called Apple Single
>Format. Is there an interpeter/decoder availible?

info-mac/util/stuffit-expander-10.hqx can decode the Apple Single format
(according to the readme file).

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:36:31 -0600
From: ig...@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits)
Subject: Auto-Doubler lies

Paul Potts writes:

- It is very unlikely that someone could take an AD compressed file, copy
it to another disk, take it to another machine, and then have troubles
with it.

This is because when copying from an Auto-Doubled disk to another volume,
even another attached hard disk, the file is automatically decompressed.

This is not always true. In fact, it is false exactly when I need it. I
use AD an am genreally pleased with it. However, when my colleagues mount
my volumes ontheir Macs and try to pull files to their machines, they get a
nasty surprise -- the files are compressed. Of course, I can give everyone
a copy of the Expand utility, but the manual clearly states:

"AutoDoubler will automatically expand the file. This avoids your
accidently giving someone a compressed file, yet leaves the original file
compressed."

Another problem is that AD decompresses files for Retrospect Remote
effectively increasing my backuo times by a factor of 5 or 10.

When I talked to Salient about these problems, they clearly indicated that
these will not be fixed.

Igor

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 12:37:31 -0400
From: grzy...@pacomm.dnet.dupont.com (STAN)
Subject: Boy Scout Clip Art

Does anyone have any clipart showing Boy Scouts of America type insignia, etc.
If you could please post it to Sumex, since I can't FTP from here.

Thanks,

Stan Grzybowski

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 14:20:51 MDT
From: JIM BEALL <be...@cmg.ceee.nist.gov>
Subject: BW/grey full page monitors for CI or SI

We are upgrading from an SE to a CI or SI and would like to hear users opinions of full page BW or greyscale monitors (the stores around here don't have much selection to see in person).
The application is DTP.
Please reply to: be...@cmg.eeel.nist.gov
Thanks, Jim Beall

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 10:05:01 -0700
From: Leslie_B...@sfu.ca
Subject: Cleaning Contacts (Q)

> Cleaning Contacts (C)
> We now find that Isopropyl alcohol works the best on the gold
>contacts.
>Rick Sutcliffe
>Trinity Western University
>
Is there any special reason to use Isopropyl alcohol, rather than methanol,
which is much more easily available?

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:12 GMT+1
From: FRI...@POLITO.IT
Subject: Converting Sounds (A)

> My method is quite a kludge, but SoundMaster seems to understand what
> is going on: just change the file type/creator of the Soundblaster .VOC
> file to `FSSD/SFX!' (SFX! == the creator code for SoundEdit)

There's an easier way to do this: use SoundExtractor.
SoundExtractor will get the sound out of the file, and you
can then specify the sampling rate and/or play it a different rates.

Hope this helps,
- Alberto Ricci.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:20:56 -0400
From: "Alan D. Danziger" <al...@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: DD, SD, avg users & power tools

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>mjk...@media-lab.mit.edu writes (editing mine):

[...]

>You can't have it both ways: transparent and obvious. I may have a higher
>opinion of the average Mac user. Then again, I can easily imagine someone
>taking his AD compressed file to another machine and trying to open it,
>getting the "app not found" alert, and spending lots of time and
>frustration figuring out why his "MSWord file" (now a DD file but
>masquerading) won't work when MSWord is "right there on my disk."

Yes, but AD converts files to DD owner; only when the AD init is
present does it "masquerade" as a MS Word file...

>Especially when he tries to open it from within MSWord and can't even see
>it. Gets worse when he uses option-Open and opens it (if this works in
>MSWord) and has the opportunity to mangle it in the same way he might have
>with an SD file. So: same problem, more pain with AD. (All hypothetical,
>of course).

Why more pain? Does SD have a freely distributable program (cf.
DDExpand) which will have the proper creator to expand the files if
necessary?

>Refrain: Power tools are inherently dangerous in the wrong hands. But, you
>can't save people from themselves.

>BTW: If (as I guess most people do) the user copies the data file from a
>compressed folder or disk (i.e., the file ITSELF is NOT named with a ".s"
>at the end) to a floppy to take it to another machine. SuperDisk
>automatically decompresses it as it is copied, so the floppy version is
>back to vanilla. Only if the user intentionally compresses it on the
>floppy, is there danger. Does AD do this?

Yes. When copying a file to another disk (by the Finder, or by a
"Save As") AD writes an expanded copy to the disk. If you want it to
remain compressed, you can use DD's "Copy to..." menu choice.

What does SD do if you copy a file WITH a ".s" extension to another
drive?

Disclaimer: I haven't used MDS or SD, but I have used DD & AD, and
like them a lot.

-=Alan

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 09:52:46 EDT(-0400)
From: e...@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Subject: DD/AD vs SD wars (C)

If I drop a large anvil on your head, how well will you compress? Will I
still be able to recognize you? *;> :^)

I think the only conclusions that can be drawn now are

1) the targets are moving
2) they are all converging on the same point.

Each company has released multiple products, no two exactly comparable. They
are playing leapfrog. It will be interesting to see if they are even
distinguishable in a year or two. I, for one, plan to let someone else flush
out the bugs ... as long as I have a big enough disk.

Edward Reid (8-}>
eel: e...@titipu.meta.com or nosc.mil!titipu.meta.com!ed
snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:40:52 GMT
From: tr...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tron)
Subject: DeskWriter C 2.0 Driver Problems

Info...@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>I downloaded the DeskWriter C 2.0 drivers to use with my DeskWriter
>printer. I have had two problems. First of all, I couldn't get the
>installer to work properly. I got a message saying something like
>"This disk has the right name but the wrong contents."
I did not have any problem installing it.

>Since the README document included with the driver files suggests
>manually installing the files onto your hard disk you have problems
>with the installer, I did that. Since the instructions didn't
>explicitly say where to install the non-system extension files, I
>assumed everything should go in the System Folder.
I believe the print monitor app and hp background both have to be in
the extension folder under sys 7.


>Has anybody had similar problems, or can anybody tell me what I'm
>doing wrong? I assume that HP PrintMonitor should work the same way
>as Apple's PrintMonitor.

I works exactly the same way as Apple's print monitor.

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 10:16:14 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEW...@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: DeskWriter C 2.0 Driver Problems

On Mon, 06 Apr 92 00:04:19 -0400 you said:
>I downloaded the DeskWriter C 2.0 drivers to use with my DeskWriter
>printer. I have had two problems. First of all, I couldn't get the
>installer to work properly. I got a message saying something like
>"This disk has the right name but the wrong contents."

I too had trouble initially. The source of the difficulty turned out to
be using Aladdin's StuffIT Expander to extract the files from the
archive. Expander does NOT preserve the files dates and Installer,
evidently either checks the dates or does a checksum that includes the
dates.

Extract the archive using Compact Pro or Extractor. I used copy/paste
to make absolutely sure that the two Install disk names exactly matched
the folder names (per the readme instructions). After that, the
installer worked (under System 7.0.1) without a hitch.

Apple's installer has given me grief in the past with other software.
There seems to be an INIT conflict of some kind that can confuse the
Installer when it swaps disks. I've taken to restarting with the shift
key down (no extensions at all) when I want to run the Installer. It
tends to work fine in that configuration (generally a restart is
necessary after running the installer anyway).

>I couldn't get the HP PrintMonitor application to start up without
>going into the System Folder and double-clicking on it myself.

The HP Backgrounder, HP Print Monitor, and HP Startup extension should
all be in the same folder (Extensions Folder under 7; System Folder
under 6).

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 16:46:49 -0400
From: Josh Lubell <lub...@cs.UMD.EDU>
Subject: DeskWriter C 2.0 Driver Problems

Thanks to everyone who replied to my earlier posting about my problems
with the HP DeskWriter C driver software. A number of people told me
to put all of the files into the Extensions folder, even those files
such as HP PrintMonitor that are not labeled system extensions. I
tried this and, sure enough, background printing now works without a
hitch.

However, I still don't know why I can't install the software using
Apple's Installer. Murph Sewall told me that the Installer has a
problem with files that have been decompressed using Alladin's Stuffit
Expander. However, I did not use Stuffit Expander. Instead I used
BinHqx 1.02 to convert the archived files into a self-extracting archive,
which I then double-clicked on.

I think it would be a whole lot easier for people to intall the new
DeskWriter software if it were in the form of 800K disk images (like
Apple's System 7 TuneUp). Would it be possible to put the DeskWriter
C 2.0 drivers on sumex in this form?

Josh Lubell

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 11:14:08 E02
From: Christoph van Wuellen <HBO043%DJUKFA1...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: DeskWriter C drivers

First, DW-C driver works for me with an ordinary deskwriter.

Rotated Text (mad in Graf-1.3.1), which comes out as 72 DPI with the
DeskWriter 2.2 Driver, prints correctly with the DW-C driver.

(Note that you have to put HP print monitor in the Extensions folder under
System 7, at least if the two startup documents reside there)

I also have problems with lost margins, the bottom part of a picture was
shifted 4 mm to the right. I could not figure out what it was, I suspect
a memory shortage:
With smaller pictures (it was a Graf-1.3.1 Graph), everything was OK, and
when I rescaled the graph in NISUS to a smaller size, everything went fine,
too (it was the same graph, only downscaled!). /////CVW

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 16:25 CDT
From: tri...@edsi.plexus.com (Greg Trimper)
Subject: DeskWriter C drivers

I am seeing a lot of complaints about how "since the DW C drivers
don't work with my Deskwriter (Non-C) I am not going to buy a
Deskwriter C blah blah blah."

Let me attest to something: the DeskWriter C drivers work WONDERFULLY
with the DeskWriter _C_. The fact that they do work with the DeskWriter
non_C is a nice bonus, one that HP does not SUPPORT.

So, for anyone who is ragging on HP for the wrong driver not working
with their printer - please focus. HP builds some wonderful
products, and I have always been able to get my work and printing done
on my Deskwriter using the current driver - 2.2. So have lots of
other people. If you have problems running the DeskWriter _C_ driver
with your _Deskwriter_, look at what you are trying to do before
you blame or flame HP.

Greg Trimper tri...@edsi.plexus.com Just want this discussion focused.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:28 EST
From: ROBERT_BROCKMAN <CDB...@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Deskwriter Driver 3.0

Hello fellow Deskwriter users!

I just got off the phone with HP and they said that while the
Deskwriter C 2.0 drivers would probably work with the "plain"
Deskwriter, they really didn't recommend it, as you might have all
sorts of weird problems. HP is releasing version 3.0 of the Deskwriter
driver (replacing v2.2) this week, and will be mailing copies to those
who request beginning next week. Version 3.0 will have all of the
features of the C 2.0 drivers along with a bonus: it is designed to
work with the regular Deskwriter, and thus SHOULD.

In other words, the 3.0 driver will be:

* 32-bit clean and VM compatible (as 2.2 is)
* provide background printing (as 2.0C does)
* provide better greyscale printing (as 2.0C does)
* designed specifically for the "regular" Deskwriters

HP doesn't recommend using C drivers on the regular machine nor
vice-versa. Hopefully this will help those of us who experienced
problems with the 2.0C download.


Robert Brockman, aka CDB...@IUP.BITNET or CDB...@GROVE.IUP.EDU

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 10:32:35 -0700
From: Will Allen <wi...@hpvclwa.vcd.hp.com>
Subject: DeskWriter Paper

Paul....@mtsg.ubc.ca writes:

> To complicate matters further, I've been using a cheap paper that
> gave me great results. The brand name was Matrix. When I ran out, I
> went out to by another IDENTICAL package. I got much poorer results.

Print quality varies depending on which side of the paper you print on;
try turning it over. There is no hard-n-fast rule for choosing paper.
Experiment with brands available in your area, being sure to try both
sides. I find many 25% cotton bond papers work well.


. . .Will

Will Allen
HP Vancouver Division
wi...@vcd.hp.com or ...!hplabs!vcd!willa

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 11:43:12 PDT
From: Paul....@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Diskspeed and directory problems

I've got two short questions:
(1) If defragmentation and optimization applications are not THAT
dangerous, why is there a program called FASTFIX to repair damage
done by diskspeed?
(2) My directory/catalog seems to damaged, but is not affecting my
Mac's performance, what can I do? I noticed it when some of my
files began increasing in size for no reason.
Paul

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 13:02:27 EST
From: Marshall Rosenstein <MARS...@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: DOS virus on a Mac?

I'm using Access PC on my Macintosh, which allows me to have DOS format-
ted floppies appear on my desktop. What is the chance that I can catch
a DOS virus this way?

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:08:27 GMT
From: tlt3...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Excel 4.0???

Info...@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:
>I looked at the most recent MacWorld (May, I believe) and saw that Excel
>is being release as version 4.0...
>After coming down from the ceiling and removing plaster from my scalp,
>I thought "didn't we just upgrade to 3.0a?" (at a PREMIUM PRICE!)
>Does anyone know what the terms are for upgrading to Excel 4.0?
$99 according to macWeek.
-Terry

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:39:55 -2300
From: cl7...@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
Subject: Excell 4.0 (R)

FYI - Our Microsoft rep is comming in on April 20 to do a demo including
Word 5 and XL 4. He said he "should" have at least a Beta copy by then.
It seems that Microsoft is making sure they have their ads in place (with
magazine publishing lead times being what they are) when the product is
released. I would say don't look for it before May sometime.

Colin Lamb - MacMeister 8-)> - Drake University - Des Moines

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Date: 6 Apr 92 13:26:05 U
From: "Jim Burmeister" <Jim.Bur...@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Expanded Books Info

Expanded Books Info
Here is a summary of the information I received on the software "books":

They are called Expanded Books, and are available from the following company:

The Voyager Company
1351 Pacific Coast Highway
Santa Monica, CA 90401
(800) 446-2001

There are currently 3 titles available:
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (all 4 volumes of the trilogy) by
Douglas Adams
- Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton
- The Annotated Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll, annotated by Martin
Gardiner

Voyager will be publishing three titles per month from now on, a mix of fiction
and non-fiction. One of the titles will be the complete works of Aldous Huxley
(including Brave New World).

You can order them direct from the publisher for $19.95 + $2.50 S/H.

Thanks to Brian Bechtel, g...@odi.com, and Fr. Larry McCormick for the info.

-Jim Burmeister, jim.bur...@med.umich.edu

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 06:11:42 EST
From: alan chapman <cha...@zeus.usq.edu.au>
Subject: File creator wanted (Q)

Hello,

I've got some Mac files which I can't unpack. Their
TYPE is DMdf and CREATOR is DskM.

They appear to be disk images like Apple's Disk
Copy program can create. Any clues what the program
is that I can use and where I can get it?

Please reply directly to cha...@zeus.usq.edu.au

Thanx in advance.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 07:51:00 PST
From: Michael_Kessler.Hum%mailgate...@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
Subject: Footnote on Spelling Checker (C)

The spelling checker for WordPerfect, both Mac and PC version, does not
flag Nisei.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:18 EST
From: Aspirin Kid <STU_M1...@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Subject: forgetful folders

Sometimes a folder on my hard disk will forget its size and view settings.
For example, if I set it to fill the screen and view by name, it will
sometimes come up as a small rectangle (default size) and view by icon.
Has anyone else had this problem? I'm running tuned-up system 7 on a Mac
Plus with 2.5 megs; I never noticed a problem before the tune-up.

Mark Cornick
stu_m1...@vax1.acs.jmu.edu

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:39:26 GMT
From: fr...@nork.auc.dk (Frode Vatne )
Subject: Help needed with net

I need help to solve a problem with a printer control.

Our Mac and Dos computers are using an Ethernet to wich we have connected a
laser (Applentx). The system's server is running Lan Manager 2.1 with
Mac Print and file service.

The problem is that we want to controll who is and who is not allowed
to use the laser, and how many pages each user prints on it.
Controlling the Dos users are not causing us any problems, but we do not know
how to controll the Mac users.

Please mail any information about this problem, and suggestions of how to
solve it as soon as possible; I woud be very grateful.
--
E-mail: fr...@nork.auc.dk

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:05:14 EDT
From: Seth Ness <ne...@aecom.yu.edu>
Subject: hide always

hi,
i got hide always and installed it and it simply does nothing. theres no
change in the behavior of the hide others option. has anybody seen anything
like this?
seth
ne...@aecom.yu.edu

--

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 14:54:21 EDT
From: James J Dempsey <j...@spserv.bbn.com>
Subject: HP95LX interface from Macintosh?

I played with an HP95LX palmtop computer this weekend and was really
impressed. However, it seems like it might be hard to maintain one
properly if you don't have a DOS machine to connect it to.

Does anyone know of any software (3rd part or PD) which would allow
you to interact with the 95LX from a Macintosh? (without SoftPC)

I thinking about things like downloading new software from PC disks,
managing calendars, phone lists, to-do lists, etc.

Thanks,

--Jim Dempsey--
j...@bbn.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 10:03:48 EDT
From: "A. Zakai" <Z...@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: HP DeskWriter driver 3.0 is ready

I talked with HP tech support on Friday and the tech person said that the
final version of the drivers for the regular DeskWriter just rolled in
yesterday. They are a black and white version of the DW-C 2.0 drivers and
support background printing and gray scale.
These drivers are now in mass duplication and the HP distribution center will
start shipping them out on request starting next week. Call the driver
distribution center at (303) 353 7650 for your copy.

--Zak

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 22:03:32 EST
From: jonathan <JKAMIEN%UVMVM....@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #22 resend

white knight (A)

White Knight is commercial software available from FreeSoft, Beaver Falls, PA

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:12:42 BST
From: "D." Summerbell <d-su...@national-institute-for-medical-research.mrc.ac.uk>
Subject: Internet addresses

Dear Wade,

In an ideal world I would agree with you. Unfortunately Internet
is not as perfect as one might wish. This sometimes makes
indirection (using the % sign) either desirable or indispensible.
First one needs to examine the underlying structure of the system.

Every mailer has a list of addresses it recognises. The addresses
are held in the form of a list of numbers with alternative
mnemonic aliases. When I type in wa...@ducvax.auburn.edu my
machine looks up its list of aliases. It discovers that it doesn't
have your alias in its list. However the form of the address
(probably the "@" character) alerts it to the fact that this is
probably an outside address. It therefore kicks it upstairs to our
"outside" mailer on another machine. Our outside mailer now checks
its alias list. It has a list of most UK addresses but not many US
addresses. It therefore also fails to find your alias. However the
mailer does recognise that this is probably a US address (the .edu
is fairly dignostic) and it refers the mailing request to the UK
"gateway" or "node" that handles mail for the US, in this example
ib.rl.ac.uk. If it were mail for say Ireland eg info-
m...@irlearn.ucd.ie our outside mailer would instead send it to
nsfnet.uck.ac.uk. In turn the internet gateways check their alias
lists. I would guess (but don't know) that rutherford
(ib.rl.ac.uk) carries a decent alias list for the US and can now
send my mail direct to wa...@ducvax.auburn.edu. If however for
some reason your address is not on the rutherford alias list (a
new address, an insignificant site, operator error in updating the
alias list, or perhaps rutherford does not carry US addresses) it
sends on the request to a US gateway which in turn forwards the
mail until eventually it reaches you.

Why indirection (sending to x%y@z)? Various reasons. Sometimes I
notice that our default mailer has gone down, or is particularly
slow. I then may decide to force my mail via a different route to
get it through (eg mail wadew%ducvax.a...@irlearn.ucd.ie).
This gets a message to you via canterbury and ireland rather than
via rutherford. Obviously this would be a short term tactic and
tomorrow I go back to using the default gateway. On other
occasions I notice that my mail is always going to a specific
address by a particularly long-winded route, I try to shorten it
by forcing a different first step. Third, and this is my most
usual reason, I'm unable to contact a new correspondent who has a
perfectly reasonable sounding address. However I know that he can
communicate with a third party. I send my mail by indirection via
the third party. For example, as well as posting to the list, out
of courtesy, I send a personal copy to you. Alas, for some
unforeseen reason the mail to you bounces. I look at your previous
letter and guess that in your examples you would only use real
addresses that work for you. I therefore try to contact you
indirectly as wadew%ducvax.a...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU.

>addresses which contain percent signs almost always bounce?

Why? I suggest that If someone is using indirection it usually
indicates that they are having some kind of mailing problem. One
should not be surprised if there is sometimes difficulty in
establishing contact. In my experience, once contact is
established and one has full data on transmission pathways it is
usully possible to sort out the initial difficulty.

Finally (for the moment), how do I know this. I have terrible
problems with my own address. The official address in the UK is
d-su...@uk.ac.medical-research-council.national-institute-for-
medical-research. I had to do a lot of research to work out why
nobody ever replied. Problems:
1. note that UK addresses are back-to-front compared to
the rest of the world (we also drive on the left and have peculiar
sexual habits). Good mailers spot this and automatically put the
return address in the usual international order.
2. the full address is too long for some mail parsers,
they refuse to accept the line and abort the mail request.
3. most alias lists in circulation try to avoid the above
problem by using a short unofficial address alias of
nimr.mrc.ac.uk. If someone routes mail via a particularly
burocratic node using this short form the node's mailer may abort
the mail request.
4. there has to be at least one other problem. I know this
because some colleagues have absolutely no problems with sites
that refuse to accept mail for me.

Penultimate final finally: to try and get round these problem I
use a terribly turgid autograph which includes a direct and
indirect address from the US (see below).

Final finally, this information was hard won by painstaking
analysis of a lot of data and even more experimenting. It is
probably in error in places: corrections and additions gratefully
received. More to follow (I didn't dare another finally).



Dr.D.Summerbell INTERNET: d-su...@nimr.mrc.ac.uk
Limb Development Group or: d-summer%nimr.mrc.ac.uk@earn-relay
Nat. Inst. Medical Research DARPA:d-summerbell%nimr...@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk
The Ridgeway, Mill Hill JANET: d-su...@uk.ac.mrc.nimr
LONDON NW7 1AA Tel: 081-959 3666 ext2366
U.K.

The short Internet address does not always work from the US. nimr is
an unofficial alias and some nodes do not have it in their YP.
Indirection via earn-relay is more reliable.
Real address is: @national-institute-for-medical-research.mrc.ac.uk

------------------------------

Date: 6 Apr 92 08:30:50 GMT
From: am18...@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Erick Young)
Subject: InUse cdev

A lot of people have been asking about the extension called
InUse which gives the functionality of Norton's Disklight. I
found a copy of InUse in the umich archives in the mac/system.extensions/cdev
folder.
InUse is a control panel which flashes a small icon
(customizable) in the upper left hand corner everytime the hard
drive is accessed (or anytime any SCSI devices is accessed if you
wish). It seems to work great, and best of all, the kind author
made it FREE. Hope this helps.

Erick Young
am18...@sdcc15.ucsd.edu

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:52:34 PDT
From: Richard....@Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Goldstein)
Subject: Label Maker programs/suggestions (Q)

Are there any freeware/shareware label makers out there? I took a quick
browse through the sumex abstracts and didn't see anything that fit the
bill.

Specifically, I need to make labels for my home brew. I would like to
include a SuperPaint or other program image with some text to create
bottle labels. I am working off of a IIsi 3/40, and have access to a
laser printer. I use Word 4.0 as my wp.

Any suggestions or creative ideas on how to do this (in a fairly easy
manner)? Thanks in advance for all of your help.

Richard Goldstein
rich...@cheesewiz.Corp.sun.com

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 03:04:59 EDT
From: abb...@cedrus.cedrus.com (Hisham A. Abboud)
Subject: Latest Tune-Up does not work very well it seems (Comment)

Drew,

> To say it was meant to fix the dissapearing folder problem is a little
> odd; as just a few seconds ago about 60% of the folders on my Boot Hard
> Disk vanished!

Personally, I've had nothing but problems with Tune-Up. At one point,
it wouldn't even boot. I'd get a "flickering" dialog that couldn't make
up its mind whether it wanted to show up or not. And I'm sure it was
not an INIT conflict (ooops, was that Extentsions?) because I removed all
Extensions and all Control Panels, except Tune-Up, and it still bombed.

Too bad, given that I never had problems with System 7, not even with
disappearing files...

Hisham.

Hisham A. Abboud, Cedrus Corp. [Internet: abb...@cedrus.com]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:12:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: William Conrad Wojciechowski <ww...@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mac Animation

Hi,

I was wondering if anybody knew of a good book on programming graphics
and animation for the Mac. I'm not talking quickdraw routines, but the
really impressive stuff like you see in hellcats.

Thanks in advance,

Will

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Date: Mon 6 Apr 92 08:36:10-PST
From: "PSI%SPAN.DORNIERF::EICH"%ESTCS...@STAR.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: Macro Recorder under System 7 (Q)

We are missing the macro recorder. It was available under System 6.x
but under 7.0 it is obsolete - somebody told us. How can we activate
a similar function now ?

Thanks for your help.

Mic Voelker and Nick Faller
Dornier GmbH, Friedrichshafen, Germany
Fax +49 7545 85650

Our internet address looks like this

"PSI%DORNIERF::rgsun3::voe%ESTCS1.SPAN"@STAR.STANFORD.EDU
or
"PSI%DORNIERF::EICH%ESTCS1.SPAN"@STAR.STANFORD.EDU

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 10:34:24 EST
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMP...@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject: MacZone

I noticed from an old info-mac that Gary Lee Nelson was unhappy about being
put on hold by MacZone. I recently used MacZone (not for the first time). I
called late, they picked up quickly and were very professional. They also
gave me a discount for calling after a certain time.

Recommendation: find out which vendors give you some sort of discount for
calling at certain times. Then, do everyone a favor and call during one of
these off-peak hours. This way their busy times are evened out a bit over
the day. Thanks for listening to my suggestion- Pete "The Gnome" Tamas

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:05:00 +0200
From: "jo...@sc2a.unige.ch ==> S. Jordi, Geneva, Switzerland" <JO...@sc2a.unige.ch>
Subject: Marketing dpt of Apple ?

Hi there,
Does anybody know the electronic mail address of the Marketing Dpt of
Apple Computer ?

Thanks for your help !
Sincerely,
Steve Jordi-Dpt of Geophysics-U of Geneva-Switz...@sc2a.unige.ch

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:24:49 EDT
From: m...@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel Martinez x8378)
Subject: MDS Compression of MS programs

On Fri, 3 Apr 92 23:02:56 PDT Adam Engst writes:

>Almost nothing can compress Microsoft apps well. It's due to their
>internal p-code (which is why they have very few resources). Try compressing
>Word or Excel with Compact Pro or DiskDoubler and they won't do very
>well either. I once compressed Word with StuffIt 1.5.1 and it got
>bigger. :-)

Err..um..I can't vouch for how well it might do with Word 5 or other MS apps,
but AutoDoubler compresses Word 4 just fine.

Expanded: 680k
Compressed: 482k
Savings: 28%

See ya at the ball park!

Mel Martinez
The Johns Hopkins University
Dept. of Physics

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:28:49 GMT
From: ell...@cs.wisc.edu (James Elliott)
Subject: Modem Cable Pinout Needed

Here's the complete connection list, which works well with almost any
application where you want hardware handshaking. It was provided to my
by Rolf Hahn, ro...@roh.in-berlin.de, and turns out to be the same
wiring used by the cable I bought from Maya Computer.

Mac Pin Mac Function DB 25 Pins RS 232 Function

1 Output Hand- 4 Request To Send
shake 20 Data Terminal Ready

2 Input Handshake 5 Clear To Send

3 TxD - 2 Transmit Data

4, 8 Ground 1 Shield
7 Ground

5 RxD - 3 Receive Data

6 TxD - NC

7 Misc. (Not on 8 Carrier Detect
Plus)

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 17:01:38 CET
From: "Mr. H. Lavagnini Trans Div" <aerm...@mannheim-emh1.army.mil>
Subject: Monitors and Boards for SE/30

Here are the replies I received about monitors and boards for the SE/30.

A big thank you to Jon Gross, Ross Moran, John Treble, and Dennis Newkirk
for taking the time to answer.
-----------------

From: "JC, Chance zum Leben! (Gross, Jon)" <GROSS%DICKINS...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

The micron exceed board for the se/30 is the best 8bit board I have seen, and
the new one will make the internal grey-scale _only_ when the external
monitor is not present.

----------------
From: rmo...@wiley.csusb.edu

First, regarding monitors. I've been happy with the Micron 8-bit card. I
have the older version which doesn't have the optional add-in for internal
greyscale. (IMHO, of questionable value since you can't run *both* internal
grey and external color concurrently.) Having dual monitors is great, even
if the internal is running in 1-bit mode.

I have the Magnavox Professional 14" monitor (actualy 2: one for home and
formerly one for work -- and an SE/30 transported daily). If I were doing
it now, I'd go for the maximum resolution that I could afford. For example,
Micron has a slightly more expensive card that may support a 16" screen.

I'd be very interested in your findings on accelerating an SE/30. As you may
have discovered, the DayStar accelerators use the SE/30's one slot
precluding the addition of a video card. Maybe the Dove will clamp onto the
original CPU? (Is there a Marathon model specifically for the SE/30?) You
should also check the acceptable speed ratings for SIMMs when used with
accelerators of different frequencies. Also, the effect of the acceleration
upon the sound manager.

Several years ago I bought an SE RAM upgrade from Dove which piggy-backed
256K SIMMs to provide a 2 meg SE. There were a small number of programs
which did not work with that configuration. Hopefully folks will also report
any compatibility problems with the Marathon as well.

Good luck! I'm looking forward to your summary.

-Ross Moran <rmo...@wiley.csusb.edu>

--------------------
From: treble%asc...@ascct6.SINet.SLB.COM

I have an SE/30 with an Micron Exceed 640x480 color card and a Seiko 14"
color monitor. The Micron Exceed card costs about $350 and the monitor
I purchased for about $500. (I got them from Third Wave Computing
in Austin, Texas.) The Micron Exceed card is great. It uses the Apple
System software (no hardware specific drivers) so future compatibility
is not an issue. The Seiko monitor uses the exact same tube as the
Apple RGB monitor and is bright and crisp. I can highly recommend both
units.

John Treble
Schlumberger Well Service
Austin System Center

---------------------
From: den...@ecs.comm.mot.com (DX531 Dennis Newkirk)

regaurding your request for info on SE/30 monitor info on net news....

Over a year ago I was looking for an external color monitor, and I settled on
the Rasterops 264 board and an Apple 13" RGB monitor. At the time there were
cheaper 8 bit color boards and cheaper monitors, but the difference was not
too great (total about $700 vs $1000). The 264 cost about $500, and a special
Apple deal on the monitor made it $500. Plus I got 24 bit capability, which I
wanted for future 24bit rendering that I'm still waiting to do.

Installation is fairly easy if you're used to popping open the SE/30.

24 bit mode will slow the SE/30 dramatically, but if used for viewing final
rendered images, its OK.

I thought about 16" monitors, but the price was much more than the 13". Also,
you still get to use the 9" screen on the CPU, if you keep it on your desk, and it is handy for auxiliary
use like DA windows, Find/Replace windows, etc...

The Apple 13" has a mask support wire that is visible on the screen, and I was
worried it would annoy me. But, it never annoyed me at all and I soon ignored
it.

If I were looking for monitors now, I might consider the Color Pivot monitors
also, but I have no complaints on either the 264 or 13" monitor.

Dennis Newkirk (den...@ecs.comm.mot.com)
Motorola Inc, Land Mobile Products Sector
Schaumburg, IL

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 10:20:27 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEW...@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Need more than just the scoop on the Mac

On Sat, 4 Apr 1992 01:56 EDT you said:
>Unfortunately, our computing facilities include more than just
>Macintoshes. We have several labs of PC compatibles. I was wondering
>if anyone knows of a digest that is similar to the Info-mac, but
>pertaining to IBM compatibles.

info-...@WSMR-Simtel20.Army.Mil also carried as IBMPC-L on BITNET's
LISTSERV system (it's peered on a bunch of servers, you can send a SUB
request to any handy LISTSERV - LIST...@BrownVM.Brown.Edu, for example).

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 13:12:41 -0400
From: Judy Karpen <kar...@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: need opinions on 13-15" color monitors (Q)

Fellow Netrons:

If you've bought a 13-15" color monitor recently, I would like to hear your
opinions on the pros and cons of that model (and others you considered). The
magazines only review a fraction of the available models, making it difficult to
select one among the many choices out there. Also, some monitors can't be found
in a local showroom but are available by mailorder sight unseen (pay your money
and take your chances...). In particular, I am concerned about glare --- I find
the Apple 13" screen excessively glare-y, and don't want to get a filter if I
can avoid it. For reference, I find the coating on the Radius 19" monitors quite
easy on the eyes, so I'm hoping there's a smaller monitor out there with similar
glare-reduction properties. The monitor is to be used with a MacIIsi, so I also
would appreciate comments on the built-in video speed problem (i.e., is it that
bad, IYHO, and have you found a way around it?). As always, if enough responses
accumulate I will post results here, and thanks alot for sharing your expertise.

Judy Karpen
kar...@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil "keep circulating the tapes..."

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 11:22:03 PDT
From: l...@goose.svl.cdc.com (Lawrence Hare)
Subject: Personal DataBase Managers.

I have recently been looking at personal address book managers as
I find that the printing features of some of them are very appealing.
I have been extremely disappointed however as none of them provides
the industrial strength solution I need. I am wondering if anyone
reading this has had similar experiences and found a solution.

My primary needs are roughly as follows:

1) I need multiple return addresses. Each needs to be able to
contain text, PICT or EPS. By multiple I mean a dozen at least.

2) I need multiple dialing options. InTouch is the only package
I have found that is anywhere near this requirement - it is
for this reason my current address book manager. I need to
be able to dial 4 character extensions. Local numbers preceded
by 9. Long distance number preceded by 8 and followed by a
personal ID code. These may be international and of arbitary
length. Thus I should be able to type Command-D for one type,
Command-1 for another, Command-2 for the third; whatever.

3) I want template printing options. I want to print pocket-book
(6.75x3.75), organizer and normal 3-ring (8.5x11) sizes. I
need to print address labels on a whole host of different label
types. I have an envelope feeder for a LaserWriter II NT - I
may want to use this so let me batch print selected envelopes.

4) I need bar codes. With FIM marks (One package I reviewed had
bar codes but no FIM marks.) I need ZIP+4 support.

5) Plus the usual stuff that most offerings support. Multiple
telephone numbers per name. A notes field. Locate telephone
numbers automatically. Dial via modem and speaker (HyperDialer).
Search - reasonably fast but by no means a big deal here! And
functional StyleWriter support. I cannot print proper FIMs and
bar codes currently on my home machine. No problem on any of the
LaserWriters at the office.

Oh - and a reasonable license agreement. I have a IIfx at work,
hooked into Ethernet and AppleTalk. I have a PowerBook which
travels around with me and a StyleWriter at home. For example -
MicroSoft Word 5 - This is a most excellent license!

Touchbase has nice envelope support, all the dial features I need.
It is free form however but I am willing to become more structured
and get the print formatting options in return. I don't need network
support.

I would submit that a subsequent version of DynoDex, AddressBook +
or TouchBase might satisfy these requirements, but right now the
only package I can use is TouchBase. The ability to do the nifty
printing is becoming essential though.

Any suggestions?

Thanks - Lawrence

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:55:23 +0200
From: Jochen Teufel <ak...@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>
Subject: Printing keyboard symbols on a non-Apple PostScript device (Q)

Dear netters,

for a manual I need a font containing symbols of special keys (command, shift,
tab, return etc.). I have tried the Apple TrueType Chicago symbols which are
well designed and work fine on Apple LaserWriters. However, on a non-Apple
PostScript imagesetting device those characters were dropped. Before sending
this message I have searched through info-mac vol. 8-10 and downloaded
keyboard-clipart.hqx and big-keys.hqx (both uploaded by John DeRosa in v9-287
and v9-309, respectively) but I do not find them satisfying. Also the Image
Club typeface library offers no solution, and font conversion programs like
Metamorphosis and Font Monger seem to work primarily in the PostScript ->
TrueType direction.
I would be grateful if anybody could offer help in one of the following
directions:
1) Manipulate the PostScript print file/imagesetting machine to accept
PostScript definitions of a TrueType font as emitted by the LaserWriter driver,
2) PostScript type 1 fonts containing Apple keyboard symbols,
3) Font conversion utilities for the TrueType -> PostScript direction.
(For 2) and 3) addresses of manufacturers with fax numbers would be excellent.)

Thanks in advance,
Jochen Teufel

Internet ak...@rrz.uni-koeln.de
Fax +49-221-442138

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 15:01:54 GMT+0100
From: ax...@oscar.me.orst.edu (Axel Destremau)
Subject: Printing on stylewriter and Nisus

Hi netters!
I am trying to print a custom paper size with NISUS on a style writer. But it
won't do it right. I am cheking the custom box in the page setup dialog box,
then I specyfy 6.5 and 9 inches in the dimension box. When I print, the
stylewriter ( version 7.2.2) first print either in the middle of the page or
on the right of the printer instead of the left and, second I have a message
saying that my paper is too short and asking me if I want to cancel or
reprint... This is a pain
Anyone had this problem before? Appeared with Stylewriter 7.2.2
Could you please answer by email, I will post a summary if I get a solution.

Thank you.

Axel

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 07:29:34 PDT
From: Benjamin_C_B...@xerox.com
Subject: Problem w/ latest system 7 update

Although (k.o.w.) I've never experienced the "disappearing files" problem, I
installed the latest (second) system update last week. Over the weekend, my
wife noticed that the application she uses (built within Hypercard) seemed
*really* slow. It was. Doing a "show all cards" command took several seconds
between cards, whereas the previous time she'd used it, they flashed by. It
also took forever to get an insertion point in a field after clicking.

I started removing things I'd added since the last time she'd used the system
(fonts, etc.), and when I removed the second update, normal speed returned. So,
until this update gets thrashed out, I guess I'll pay more attention to my
backup scheme and pray a little.

Ben

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 03:36:56 CDT
From: "lucius chiaraviglio" <ch...@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Question about SuperDisk: hazard in its style of "transparency"?

First, a disclaimer: I haven't used SuperDisk, SpaceSaver,
DiskDoubler (though I have used DDExpand and uncompressed DiskDoubler .sea's,
so I know something about the compression density and decompression speed), or
AutoDoubler. I do use Compact Pro 1.32, and I'm waiting for Transparent
Compact Pro to come out. :-)

My question is about the method of telling SuperDisk whether or not
to compress an item. It seems to me that depending on the presence of a ".s"
on the end of the item name is hazardous for the following reason: what if I
copy an item from somewhere else that is not SuperDisk-compressed but which
already has a ".s" on the end of its name? Does SuperDisk compress it as soon
as it is copied onto a volume that SuperDisk is operating on? Also, how do you
tell SuperDisk what volumes to operate upon? Suppose I load a file server
volume that I have write permission to while SuperDisk is running, and some of
the items on there already have ".s" at the ends of their names but are not
compressed (they had the ".s" put there for some other reason by someone or
something that doesn't know about SuperDisk) -- what is the next person that
loads that volume going to get when they try to read those files? Worse yet,
suppose I suddenly realize that some such items shouldn't be compressed
because I need to export the volume that they are on to somebody that doesn't
have SuperDisk, and so I delete the ".s" off of their names, or I copy them
onto floppies (resulting in automatic removal of the ".s" by SuperDisk?) --
will SuperDisk then try to uncompress them even though they weren't compressed
to begin with?

Also, depending upon something as easily-mutable as a file name
extension to tell whether a file is compressed or not seems like a violation
of Mac user interface guidelines -- I don't know if it is officially, but it
seems like a bad idea. The Macintosh operating system has the Finderinfo fork
for such purposes; I guess if one were stuck with MeSs-DOS it might be needed
for something not operating at the driver/whole volume level (which is what
Stacker and SuperStor do), but one can do better than that on the Macintosh.

All that said, I'd still be interested in checking out a demo version
of any of the on-the-fly compression utilities to see if the 8 MHz 68000 on
this Mac SE is up to the job.

| Lucius Chiaraviglio | Internet: ch...@midway.uchicago.edu

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 09:13:11 PDT
From: a...@tidbits.halcyon.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Reflex for the Mac? (A)

In Regards to your letter <920406053...@sumax.seattleu.edu>:
> Has anyone heard of Reflex for the Mac? I pulled down a 4.5 mb database that
> has detailed instructions for manuevering through it with Reflex Plus, but I
> haven't been able to find a copy of it. I haven't tried importing it into
> filemaker Pro yet. Has anyone ever done this?

Check out TidBITS#112/23-Mar-92 (info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-112.etx)
for an article I wrote about the Reflex Plus Orphans Association.
The program is long dead, but these folks are trying to resurrect
it. You have no chance of being able to import the file into another
database directly, although it might be possible to strip out the
data and rebuild the forms and templates in something else. Check
out that article if you can, but if not, you can write to Fred Rushden
of the RPOA at:

RPOA
3142 Beaver Brook Lane
Baldwinsville, NY 13027 USA
315/635-7550 (email is preferred)

Fred Rushden/RPOA -- FredAR on AOL -- 7223...@compuserve.com


cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:35 EST
From: "Bob Shew <SHEW_R...@LILLY.COM>" <SHEW_R...@LILLY.COM>
Subject: SCSI-Accelerator for System 7.0.1

I am looking for a version of SCSI-Accelerator for the Mac +
that is compatible with System 7.0.1. There is an old version
of the extension in the archives (1989), but I doubt that it
is compatible with System 7.0.1. Is anyone aware of a more
current version? Is anyone using the current version with
7.0.1?

Thanks,

Bob Shew
Sh...@Lilly.Com

From: SHEW ROBERT W (MCVAX0::RZ66026)

To: VMS MAIL ADDRESSEE (IN::"info...@sumex-aim.stanford.edu")
cc: SHEW ROBERT W (MCVAX0::RZ66026)

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 18:00:57 EST
From: UOG1...@vm.uoguelph.ca
Subject: Speed Tests on Mac IIsi with'n'out new tune-up

I heard a rumour that the last issue of the System 7 Tune-Up did
a rather unexpected thing and slowed down the computer. This is to
say, the FIRST TUNE-UP patch. The LATEST one does NOT seem to do the same
after seeing the results of Speedometer. On top of that, according to
Speedometer, for those of us using built-in video (IIci & si ONLY) that
has no proper VRAM, using a 364k cache SIGNIFICANTLY enhances performance
in all modes (1,2,4,8bit colour).

Just for all you IIsi/ci users out there. Hope it helps!

D.

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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 92 23:26:02 PST
From: gla-aux!gl...@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu (Glenn Austin)
Subject: Strange Addresses

In article <920403075...@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU> (Info...@sumex-aim.stanford.edu), you write:
> Please ask your computing center to tell you how to format that into
> a standard Internet address. They should be able to give you an
> address for a mail server like "wa...@mail.auburn.edu". The
> addresses which contain percent signs almost always bounce. I'd like
> to be able to respond to you, but without a proper Internet address,
> I can't. Even if you're on Bitnet only, your computer center can
> tell you how to format your address so it will work from the
> Internet.


If a percent sign bounces, talk to the admin at the site where it bounces.
The percent sign is a low-priority @, so that sites who haven't updated
their maps can still route a message to the recipient.


I checked on this after getting flamed for using gla-aux!glenn@... rather
than glenn%gla-aux.uucp@.... The problem is how the addresses are decomposed
by the forwarding mailer:


"Bang-path" "% path"
site!us...@hostsite.dom user%si...@hostsite.dom


This is us...@hostsite.dom at This is user@site at the host hostsite.dom
host site. Whoops! site So we need to send to hostsite.dom, who
is not directly connected to will forward it to user@site.
us, and we don't know a UUCP
path to site, so this is a
bad address.


The problem is that it can take up to three months before a "valid" Usenet/
Internet address is recognized. In my case, it has taken over 14 months
because gla-aux was previously in CA, and some people haven't updated their
maps yet.


* Glenn L. Austin
* glenn%gla-au...@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu

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Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 19:00:51 -0500
From: Charli...@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Strange Adresses and 'Second Class Citizens'

e...@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid) writes:

> The Info-Mac Digest population largely consists of second-class network
> citizens. Those with *real* (tm) net access can depend on
comp.sys.mac.apps,
> csm.system, csm.hardware, etc. The very fact that people are depending on
> this digest is sign enough that they don't have the best in connectivity.

Speak for yourself, Mr. Ried. There are a lot of reasons to prefer the
digests over the (unmoderated) c.s.m.{anything} groups, even for people
(such as myself) with access to the usenet newsgroups.

For one thing, c.s.m groups tend to have 70-100 messages each DAY, many
of them juvenile flames, or rehashes of "Mac vs. Windows" or "Is the MacOS
a *real* OS?" The Digest presents a cross-section of the Mac community
without drowning us in volume or subjecting us to flame wars.

Moreover, it gives a listing and description of new files in the
sumex-aim archive, which are not available anywhere else; only users with
ftp access (ie, a real-time Internet link) can reach the archives, and
presumably such persons are not considered "second class citizens" in
your world.

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:02:58 PDT
From: Jesse_M._Eva...@xerox.com
Subject: strange behavior of desktop icons...

Hi, folks!

I have a funny problem: whenever the desktop image is updated, such as
when I move a window or quit an application, all the icons located above the
Trash Can become transparent within a vertical stripe extending above the can
icon and having a width equal to the width of the can's icon.

Is this the infamous disappearing folders problem? I have a IIsi and
I'm running DeskPicture. (Could that be a source of my problem?)

'til next we type
HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 18:33:48 PDT
From: Les....@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Subscribing to Word-Mac Problem (A)


Message 3627334, Posted 5:38am PST, Mon Mar 16/92
From WORD...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU
Subject Word Mac Moderated List

WORD-MAC is a moderated list for discussion of Microsoft
Word for the Macintosh.

Send Word-related articles/questions/answers to
WORD...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU

Send requests to SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE WORD-MAC or to
receive files to MAIL...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU

For a description of valid commands and syntax, send a mail
message with the command HELP in the body of the message to
MAIL...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU

Send files to be posted or questions/comments about the list
to A_H...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 0:13:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: J...@NAIF.JPL.NASA.GOV (Jay H. Lieske Sr)
Subject: SUM II - an additional comment

In Info-Mac Volume 10 : Issue 89 there was a comment by
>>Date: Sat, 4 Apr 92 22:34:20 PST
>>From: Les....@mtsg.ubc.ca
>>Subject: SUM II and Dissapearing Folders
concerning the ability of SUM II to assist the user in his
disk restoration. It ended with his plea:
>>Symantec, if you are listening, PLEASE make sure the extra
>>capability SUM II has is not lost if Norton becomes your only
>>recovery product.
I'd like to add a request to Symantec to remove the illusion
that it's doing something when in fact it's not. For example, I had
a hard disk that had a stiction problem. The disk would not turn.
Norton Utilities and Mac Tools Deluxe couldn't do anything
with the drive (logical in hindsight), but SUM II put up its friendly
thermometer showing "work" going on and after 45 minutes of waiting
it died. It later became apparent that the hard disk was not even
turning and so the SUM II "work" was ephemral. That's one feature
I hope that Symantec does not retain as they merge SUM II and Norton.

-Jay Lieske j...@naif.jpl.nasa.gov

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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 92 16:14:21 EST
From: sa...@norway.biop.umich.edu (Mark A. Saper (313)764-3353)
Subject: Supra Modem

Has anyone received the new Supra v.32bis modem yet?

-Mark

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 08:21:21 PST
From: "Maurice M. McNeil" <mmc...@kirin.BBN.COM>
Subject: System 7, is that all there is?

I have to agree with Rick Sutcliffe, System 7 is at least as
stable as System 6.0.X. I run a Mac IIfx w/ 20M RAM at work and
regularly keep 5 or more applications open. I seldom turn the machine
off and it is fairly stable. I have an LC at home and have noticed
system freezes which require rebooting which appear to be related to
Superclock 3.9.1 and Word 5.0. I run 10-15 inits/extensions on each.
All in all, I think the functionality of System 7 makes it a
real joy to use compared to System 6.0.X. I do recommend NOW 3.0 to go
with it.
-------
-----^-----
0-0 Maurice "Mike" McNeil, BBN San Diego
(_)+ (619) 224-3240 "mmc...@bbn.com"

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:26 EST
From: My Sister made me do it! <LFINKE...@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Why does my Mac 2si Freeze up? (Q)

Ever since I installed Auto-Doubler, I have been having continual finder
crashes. No system bombs, the computer just freezes up, indefinately.

I have noticed that when After-Dark is running, and I move the mouse to get
the screen back to normal, the mouse icon is the AD mouse, for a second.
I can't think of why After Dark would be accessing anything that is
compressed.

I have stopped using Auto-Doubler, and the crashes are gone.

Any ideas? Did I do something wrong?


Loren Finkelstein
LFINKE...@VAX.CLARKU.EDU

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:20 EDT
From: "TOFLISTSERV: REC.FOO.BAR" <HOPK...@urvax.urich.edu>
Subject: Word 5.0 crash on Classic (Q)

Hello! I have heard the rumors about Word 5.0 crashing on
various machines while in the midst of grammar checking but was
told that this was _not_ the case on the Classic. Well, I've had
the WORD 5.0 running on my Classic for about 2 weeks and its completely
reset itself (no warning!!!?!!) 4-5 times. What's the word (pardon the
pun) on this bug? Any _other_ little nasties that I somehow missed??

Also, I had problems with the address of the listserv of
the WORD digest. Would someone care to Email me with an address
that has worked for them?

Thanks, Christopher.
HOPK...@URVAX.URICH.EDU

ps- Dave Carr: glad to see you on the 'Net!

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Date: Mon 6 Apr 92 08:35:06-PST
From: "PSI%SPAN.DORNIERF::EICH"%ESTCS...@STAR.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: Word 5.0 Print Merge Problem (Q)

We are running Word 5.0 under system 7.0 on a mac II cx (8 MB RAM).
We want to include lots of files with the print merge "include"
command.
If there are more than 45 include commands, the system prompts:

<<Session too complex. Please close a window>>

After this message, for each further file to be included, the following
message has to be closed:

<<Print Merge: Unable to open "FILENAME">>

Has anybody solved this problem or give us a hint, how to circumvent
this without command file splitting ?

It seems not to be a problem concerning the RAM. We gave up to
8 MByte Memory space to Word. Maybe the files that are opened with
the print merge command are not closed after inclusion that results to
file descriptor overflow in the system?

Thanks for your help.

Mic Voelker and Nick Faller
Dornier GmbH, Friedrichshafen, Germany
Fax +49 7545 85650

Our internet address looks like this

"PSI%DORNIERF::rgsun3::voe%ESTCS1.SPAN"@STAR.STANFORD.EDU
or
"PSI%DORNIERF::EICH%ESTCS1.SPAN"@STAR.STANFORD.EDU

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:38 EDT
From: "I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind, got my paper and I was free..." <A_H...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU>
Subject: Word Mac list (A)

Word Mac is no longer WORD...@HVRFORD.BITNET, it's now
WORD...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU because we lost our BITnet connection this past
February. The list is still up and running happily, though, and new
subscribers are always welcome. To subscribe, send mail to
MAIL...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU; leave the subject line blank, and put SUBSCRIBE
WORD-MAC in the body of the message. If that doesn't work, send me mail and
I'll work on it myself.

Ashley Hill
Editor, Word-Mac
A_H...@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU

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