Info-Mac Digest V7 #63

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Apr 5, 1989, 10:06:55 PM4/5/89

Info-Mac Digest Wed, 5 Apr 89 Volume 7 : Issue 63

Today's Topics:
Amazing Statements
Apple II tools for the Macintosh
Carpet 2.0 (part 1 of 6)
Digital Simulation Program Sought
DistillPS (latest version)
Funny stuff
Macromaker delays ?
SimCity Demo
SIT story
SND Player Code Request
Straight into . . .
That Tree Program
VirusDetective 2.2.1
wanted: scheduling program

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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 89 23:42:16 PDT
Subject: Amazing Statements

Just a couple of notes...

I updated the file /info-mac/hypercard/xfcn-hpopupmenu.hqx with a very minor
bug fix. It used to crash if you had two ;; like so. It wasn't supposed to
and the fix consisted of 4 characters. If you care, download the new version.
I guess I would recommend it, after all, I thought it was annoying enough to

Also, I just got my SE/30 and I like it. Now I just need a screen saver that
works with it. Dimmer doesn't work and I really doubt that AutoBlack will
work either (due to the lack of a second video buffer or is there one?). At
any rate, I will play with this for a few days before making any serious
reports. Now I need to find a desktop INIT that will work since I want to use
all my old b&w screens. StartUpDesk doesn't seem to function either. I'll
have to start pawing through the archives, I guess.

Finally, anybody got a cheap engine for an 85 Olds Firenza? Sheesh. Even my
car blows up, but it doesn't have a reset button. If you feel sorry for me,
send in a shareware payment, I really need them now. :^( Thanks to everyone
who has sent the lifegiving cashish though. It keeps me posting. Of course,
I should look on the bright side of life (whistle here), I survived the latest
earthquake. My Mac didn't even flinch. ;^)



Date: Wed, 5 Apr 89 10:55:07 PDT
Subject: Apple II tools for the Macintosh

With regard to the question about an assembler for the IIe that runs on
the MAC. "][ in MAC" is an Apple IIe simulator that will allow to run
DOS 3.3, ProDOS, etc on your Mac. This of course gives you access to
assemblers, compilers, etc.

I suggest you also contact APDA about the status of the 6502/65816
cross development environment that runs under MPW. This tool set
includes an assembler and compiler (though I think the compiler only
produces code for the IIgs).

I don't have my APDA catalog at work, so I can't give you a part number.

| Craig Keithley | C43...@ENG1.GM.HAC.COM | (805) 968-5981 |


Date: 29 Mar 89 17:00:27 GMT
From: (Kevin Whitley)
Subject: Carpet 2.0 (part 1 of 6)
A carpet is a kind of two dimensional rectangular fractal. Carpet is a
program which allows you to interactively create and manipulate carpets.
With some experience, you will be able to create patterns of astonishing
complexity and beauty. Simple color is supported. A tutorial help
document and a number of samples are included.

Kevin Whitley

[Archived as /info-mac/app/carpet.hqx; 200K]


Date: 5 Apr 89 09:27:01 GMT
From: eleazar!
Subject: Digital Simulation Program Sought

I just downloaded DigSim 2.0 from sumex archives. DigSim is a digital
logic simulation program written by Brian Rauchfuss. This latest
version 2.0 I download was written in 1986. Not too surprisingly, this
version doesn't run well under the latest system software, sytem 6.02,
finder 6.1 and Multifinder 6.0.1 (both Multifinder and Finder). What I
mean by "not run well" is that it starts ok, and all the functions
works fine, except one. It crashes a lot (not all the time) when one
tries to open a previously saved file (no, I don't think that this is
deliberately disabled).

Does anyone know of any more recent versions of DigSim ? If you have it,
can you email it to me or send it to sumex-aim archives ( I think that
posting to comp.binaries.mac is quite slow).

I know of several other logic simulation programs. However, none of
them has a function of that DigSim has -- subcircuit (customized
circuit libraries). If you know of any program that has this function,
would you please tell me where I can get it ? This is for educational
purposes, therefore, PD/Shareware is preferred.

thanks in advance.

Dartmouth College For more info: finger


Date: Mon, 3 Apr 89 06:19:34 -0400
From: James Fitzwilliam <>
Subject: DistillPS (latest version)

This Stuffit 1.5 archive contains the following files:

DistillPS, a Macintosh application
README, the about file originally distributed with the above, a postscript language routine for compressing and
optimizing Postscript files

These items were obtained as a set from comp.binaries.mac; however, I have
substituted a more recent version of (version 10 edit 08) which was
posted somewhat earlier on comp.lang.postscript. Program is by Glenn Reid
of Adobe; permission to distribute is contained in the about... in the
application's apple menu.

Your anonymous ftp service is very valuable, and I appreciate it greatly.

James Fitzwilliam

[Archived as /info-mac/util/distillps.hqx; 94K]


Date: Tue, 4 Apr 89 12:07 PST
From: "Vladimir Ivanovic 415.423.7786" <>
Subject: Funny stuff

I recently discovered that some of my applications were being changed
into unlaunchable, generic documents. My research shows:

1. No obvious pattern of which applications were converted except
they are always in folders within folders, e.g.
Disk:Folder:Folder:Application. The altered applications have
different Finder locations when "viewed by icon".
2. Disinfectant 1.0 reports no infection.
3. Option-Command double-clicking does launches them, seemingly
4. I am using the DeskTop Manager v2.0.1, patched (I beleive) to
allow dismounts and have had no previous problems in months.
5. If change the file type and creator from garbage to what it
should be, the icon comes back and the application seems to work
fine. I did this with Mac240, HyperCard and Cricket Graph.
6. I derez'ed an altered copy of Mac240 that I had corrected the file
type and creator, and a good, backup copy and then compared them.
They were identical.
7. A backup tape I made using Peripheral Land's MacBack Plus MB+60
v4.4 showed that the applications had already been converted.
Now... v4.4 is a new version... and it looks at every file...
and Peripheral Land's software is by far the worst I've ever
seen for the Macintosh... but v4.32 has worked (barely) in the
past. The date of the backup was before I noticed the converted

Does anyone have any ideas on what's happening? Anyone had anything
similar happen to them? Has anyone ever used MB+60 v4.4 successfully
on a 2MB Macintosh Plus?


Date: Wed, 5 Apr 89 15:02:31 +0100
Subject: Macromaker delays ?

How does one use Macromaker to insert delays between actions ? This is needed
to do an automatic login using NCSA Telnet ...
..Claus Kalle...


Date: Wed, 5 Apr 89 10:07:10 EST
From: David J. Sturman <>
Subject: Milo

Milo is commercially available from
Paracomp, Inc.
123 Townsend St.
Suite 310
San Francisco, CA 94107
(415) 543-3848
and when I checked in February they told me it was $241.

It was written by Ron Avitzur, an undergraduate at Stanford University.

I've used Milo quite a lot and found it incredibly useful! In one case
it was indispensable. However, it does a poor job of printing and you
cannot change the font. I find Expressionist better for formatting
equations for printing and Milo best for working out mathematics.

David Sturman
MIT Media Lab

/* I have no affiliation with Paracomp or Ron Avitzur */


Date: Thu, 30 Mar 89 14:38:45 PST
Subject: SimCity Demo

This is a demo of a commercial game called SimCity. It is a city-simulation
game, and you (the player) are the mayor. Sparse documentation is included,
but no text commands are necessary.

--- Alex
UUCP: {att,backbones}!ucbvax!!lauac

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/simcity-part1.hqx; 162K
/info-mac/demo/simcity-part2.hqx; 145K]


Date: Tue, 4 Apr 89 22:12:10 PDT
From: (Dave Platt)
Subject: SIT story

If your server (or BBS, or whatever) is storing files in .SIT format,
and they are not .HQX-encoded, then they are almost certainly stored in
"MacBinary" format. MacBinary is an 8-bit encoding scheme which stores
file-name/type/creator/Finder-flags information, the file's data fork,
and the file's resource fork all in one binary file. You can think of
MacBinary as a sort of 8-bit-binary equivalent for BinHex encoding.

Most of the more recent terminal-emulation programs for the Mac can
recognize a MacBinary-encoded file when you begin downloading (e.g. with
XMODEM, ZMODEM, or Kermit protocols), and will automatically decode
the transmission and recreate the file with all of its original
characteristics intact. Similarly, these programs will automatically
perform MacBinary encoding when you upload a non-text file via XMODEM etc.

Unfortunately, MacKermit does not perform MacBinary encoding or decoding.
I gather that various people have investigated the possibility of adding
this feature to MacKermit, but have been deterred due to the complexity
of the C-Kermit file-transfer modules. Apparently, it would be very
difficult to hack MacKermit support into these modules without wrecking
their machine-independent characteristics.

If you get a copy of BinHex 5.0 (*not* 4.0), you can use it to perform
conversions between normal Mac files and MacBinary-encoded files.
You could thus download files using MacKermit's binary-file protocol,
and then pass 'em through BinHex 5.0 to convert them to useful

Another approach would be to retire MacKermit, and use another term'ulator
program that does support MacBinary. If your host/mainframe supports
XMODEM, there are many possibilities including FreeTerm 3.0 (free),
MiniTerm, Red Ryder, MicroPhone, VersaTerm, ZTerm, and probably about
a zillion others. I believe that VersaTerm supports the Kermit
protocol with MacBinary conversion, so you might be able to acquire
MacBinary download capability from your server without having to
switch away from the Kermit protocol.

Dave Platt FIDONET: Dave Platt on 1:204/444 VOICE: (415) 493-8805
UUCP: ...!{ames,sun,uunet}!coherent!dplatt DOMAIN:
INTERNET: coherent!,
USNAIL: Coherent Thought Inc. 3350 West Bayshore #205 Palo Alto CA 94303


Date: 5 Apr 89 09:04:05 PDT (Wednesday)
Subject: SND Player Code Request

I'm looking for some public domain C code for playing back SND resources.
I'm most interested in code to play back Hypercard SND's, as opposed to the
System file variety, but either will do. MPW C code would be wonderful, but
I feel confident I can translate if needed. I vaguely remember some mention
of such code many months ago on this list, but can't find anything in my
own archives. Anyone know where I can find some?




Date: Mon, 3 Apr 89 12:36 EDT
From: HENRY YEE <>
Subject: Straight into . . .


In response to your questions from Info-Mac, Vol. 7, Issue 60.

1) To get files to the MAC you will need a terminal emulator program with the
same file transfer protocol on both the MAC and the host. XMODEM and KERMIT
are very popular and can be found in terminal programs like FreeTerm, Red
Ryder, and MacTerminal. Your host needs a program with the same protocol.
You can get KERMIT for your host computer from Columbia University Center for
Computing Activities for the cost of the magnetic tape. They will need to
know particulars about the mainframe and the operating system, so be prepared
with that information.

2) The CorpHqHost and the HostAtWork must be able to treat the files as binary
files. On the VAX several bytes may be stored in a single word, but the
KERMIT side seen by the MAC only sees bytes going back and forth.
You won't need any software to convert from one file format to another as
long as your host computer is not expected to do anything with the file other
than store it. Of course, you will not be able to get anything intelligible
>From the file through the operating system.

3) I don't understand the question, "How do I get the de-archiving utilities
without the terminal emulator?" You will HAVE a terminal emulator to use your
modem to connect to the host computer. You can get the utilities from the
Archives, local user groups, or MAC bulletin boards. The basic ones are PIT
(PackIt), SIT (StuffIt), ARC (Archive), and ZIP. Info-MAC has standardized on

4) CompuServe may be accessed through reqular terminal emulators. Services
like Prodigy need special software because the display screen consists of
backgrounds generated in the PC and data from the Prodigy host.


Date: 1 Apr 89 02:01:05 GMT
From: (Craig Hickman)
Subject: That Tree Program
This is an interactive program that draws fractal trees. It has
several options that you might find interesting including the ability
to draw curved branches and save the trees in PICT format for use in
MacDraw, PageMaker, etc.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/that-tree-program.hqx; 60K]


Date: Sat, 1 Apr 89 11:21 EST
From: Jeffrey Shulman <>
Subject: VirusDetective 2.2.1

VirusDetective is a DA for tracking down viruses (or any resources) in files.
You specify the resource type and optionally its size, name, id or size
range. Once the offending resource is found it can optionally be removed
>From the file (use this feature with caution). The user can update the
search list at any time. Shareware.

Version 2.2.1 puts back the "Check This Folder" button and fixes -43 errors
with certain INIT's.

[Archived as /info-mac/virus/virus-detective-221.hqx; 60K]


Date: Wed, 5 Apr 89 11:52 AST
From: Stan Armstrong <>
Subject: wanted: scheduling program

The private language school I work for has a fairly simple
Macintosh software need which so far we have found unmet
by any product we have tested.

The need is this: We must schedule, from week to week,
classes involving certain students, with a certain teacher,
in a certain room. All we need is a program that would allow
us to RreserveS a given resource (teacher, classroom) for a
given time, so as to avoid double booking (sort of like an
airline reservation program, I guess). Ideally this program
would allow a graphic overview of the situation for any upcoming
week, and a record of which times were used and/or open for
any given resource (teacher, classroom).

Any ideas in netland?


Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1989 13:13:10 CST
From: CB Lih <>
Subject: XCMD, XFNC, and QuickBASIC

Can QuickBASIC be used to create XCMDs and XFCNs for HyperCard?

=---> CB Lih <---= "Picked up for questioning."
Macintosh Support
BITNET: CL06076@UAFSYSB AppleLink: U0669 Phone: 501-575-2905
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