How do I set up Linksys router for internet connect with Earthlink
GA...@thelaunch.com
(BEFSR41) and Earthlink ISP. I would like to have both connect to the
internet with my DSL modem, but Linksys support is nonexistent.
I have done some reading on DHCP, NAT, VNC, and VPN, but I lost on what
is the best solution. Some articles I read said Earthlink does not allow
this, and I do not want to have to purchase static IP addresses if I
don't have to.
Can someone point me to a simple solution to get both computers
connected to the internet at the same time?
Thanks!
Tom Stiller
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Steve W. Jackson
Randall Ainsworth <r...@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
That, quite frankly, is a rather useless answer. Earthlink *is* a real
ISP, even if their tech support is less than perfect.
Earthlink does allow use of a router, they just don't provide support
for it. It's the OP who is lacking the knowledge required to do what's
needed without their assistance -- not uncommon. A previous respondent
pointed him to a site that may be of help.
= Steve =
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Randall Ainsworth
W. Jackson <stevew...@charter.net> wrote:
> That, quite frankly, is a rather useless answer. Earthlink *is* a real
> ISP, even if their tech support is less than perfect.
>
> Earthlink does allow use of a router, they just don't provide support
> for it. It's the OP who is lacking the knowledge required to do what's
> needed without their assistance -- not uncommon. A previous respondent
> pointed him to a site that may be of help.
Earthlink is a piece of shit, possibly lower on the scale than AOL.
Steve W. Jackson
Randall Ainsworth <r...@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
I left Earthlink after the MindSpring/Earthlink merger when their
broadband cable support wasn't up to my standards. But I'm afraid I
can't see sufficient proof that *any* major ISP is lower than AOL's
pretense at being one. AOL is what they always have been -- an online
service that happens to include access to the Internet.
Richard Tomkins
search with linksys and earthlink as the search terms.
Try it yourself.
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Randall Ainsworth
W. Jackson <stevew...@charter.net> wrote:
> I left Earthlink after the MindSpring/Earthlink merger when their
> broadband cable support wasn't up to my standards. But I'm afraid I
> can't see sufficient proof that *any* major ISP is lower than AOL's
> pretense at being one. AOL is what they always have been -- an online
> service that happens to include access to the Internet.
On the PC side, EarthLink's version of IE has been modified and causes
problems with some sites. If you go to their page to download their
software, you get a blank page with an error message. Great service.
Bill
"Steve W. Jackson" <stevew...@charter.net> wrote:
> In article <090720051133284171%r...@nospam.techline.com>,
> Randall Ainsworth <r...@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <stevewjackson-D5B...@individual.net>, Steve
> > W. Jackson <stevew...@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > > That, quite frankly, is a rather useless answer. Earthlink *is* a real
> > > ISP, even if their tech support is less than perfect.
> > >
> > > Earthlink does allow use of a router, they just don't provide support
> > > for it. It's the OP who is lacking the knowledge required to do what's
> > > needed without their assistance -- not uncommon. A previous respondent
> > > pointed him to a site that may be of help.
> >
> > Earthlink is a piece of shit, possibly lower on the scale than AOL.
>
> I left Earthlink after the MindSpring/Earthlink merger when their
> broadband cable support wasn't up to my standards. But I'm afraid I
> can't see sufficient proof that *any* major ISP is lower than AOL's
> pretense at being one. AOL is what they always have been -- an online
> service that happens to include access to the Internet.
To each his own. I've been using Earthlink for a long time, and it is
just fine.
To answer the OPs question, it is not difficult.
Your router should have come with setup instructions. Mine did. Just
follow those instructions.
Each Mac connected to the router should be set to use DHCP. you make
this setting using the Network Preferences panel. Make this selection
under TCP/IP. The router then assigns each connected computer its own IP
address, in much the same way that the ISP assigns the router its IP
address (or would assign an individual computer not hooked to a router
its IP address).
You of course have to connect the computer to the router via Ethernet or
via Airport.
Bill
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> Earthlink is a piece of shit, possibly lower on the scale than AOL.
Agreed, to the maximum extent of the law.
OTOH, there is nothing about EL that prevents you from running a router,
although their "Tournament of dynamic IP's" sure makes it a headache.
Be aware that Earthlink is not an actual ISP, they only collect the money. A
typical Earthlink provisioner is Covad.
Covad is like, low end internet, where you may expect 4 IP's per day and 15
minute outages between IP's. If you are logging in with PPoE you may think
twice about Linksys as I am not sure the firmware allows autologin to PPoE.
My experience with Earthlink/Covad is that you may need to relogin to the
service anywhere from once a week to twice a day depending on the stability
of the routing in your city. All in all, Earthlink is pretty crappy and not
cheap. You are better off with a local DSL or just use the phone company's
DSL.
-- Gnarlie
Charles Dyer
(in article <GAmac-4D8978....@news.supernews.com>):
> I have a G5 desktop and Powerbook running 10.4.1, Linksys wired router
> (BEFSR41) and Earthlink ISP. I would like to have both connect to the
> internet with my DSL modem, but Linksys support is nonexistent.
>
> I have done some reading on DHCP, NAT, VNC, and VPN, but I lost on what
> is the best solution. Some articles I read said Earthlink does not allow
> this,
Earthlink will never know that you have a router and I doubt that they care.
>< and I do not want to have to purchase static IP addresses if I
> don't have to.
>
> Can someone point me to a simple solution to get both computers
> connected to the internet at the same time?
>
> Thanks!
solution:
In order to have two or more computers connected to the same broadband device
via a router, you need to have the following:
1 a (working!) broadband device with working account. Verify that all is well
by connecting to the broadband device. The simple way to do this is to plug a
known working ethernet cable into the downlink port on the broadband device
(there should be only one downlink port on most DSL devices; if there are
more than one, just pick one) and the ethernet port on one computer. Make
sure that the computer can see the internet. Disconnect the computer.
2 a (working!) router. Typically routers have one uplink and four or more
downlink ports. Some may also have wireless ability. Do _not_ attempt to use
the wireless ability until _after_ you have verified that the router is
working. Verify that all is well by connecting the downlink port of the
broadband device used above to the uplink port of the router, and then
connecting the same computer which you just used to one of the router's
downlink ports using another known working ethernet cable. Do _not_ connect
the broadband device to one of the router's downlink ports. The ports are
typically labelled with numbers for the downlink ports an 'uplink' or
'internet' for the uplink port. In many cases the uplink port will be
separated from the downlink ports by a major gap.
Once the first computer is connected, get a known good cable and connect the
second one to one of the other ports.
Connecting routers is simple. Just plug them in.
Linksys routers usually come with a quick-start sheet, and a readme and
manual in PDF format on CD. I'd read them.
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tacit
> I have a G5 desktop and Powerbook running 10.4.1, Linksys wired router
> (BEFSR41) and Earthlink ISP. I would like to have both connect to the
> internet with my DSL modem, but Linksys support is nonexistent.
>
> I have done some reading on DHCP, NAT, VNC, and VPN, but I lost on what
> is the best solution. Some articles I read said Earthlink does not allow
> this, and I do not want to have to purchase static IP addresses if I
> don't have to.
You don't have to.
Step 1: Connect the DSL modem to the router.
Step 2: Connect the router to the computer.
Step 3: Open the computer's TCP/IP control panel (if you are using OS 9
or earlier) or Network preference pane (if you are using OS X). In the
Ethernet TCP/IP settings, set to Configure Automatically via DHCP.
Step 4: Surf to the router's configuration page. You do this by running
a Web browser and typing the address http://192.168.1.1 in the address
bar. You will be asked for a name and password. With Linksys routers,
the name is blank and the password is admin (all lower case).
Step 5: In the router's configuration page, tell it to connect to the
DSL modem using PPPoE. If Earthlink assigned you a PPPoE password, you
will have to put that in as well.
You're done!
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GA...@thelaunch.com
tacit <tac...@aol.com> wrote:
The router did not come with a manual or readme for mac. I sent an email
to tech support and they confirmed that they have nothing written for
the mac system.
I tried connecting to http://192.168.1.1 with four different browsers
over the last couple days and the connection times out. What gives?
Tom Stiller
GA...@thelaunch.com wrote:
You can download manuals for the BEFSR41 from
<http://linksys.com/support/support.asp?spid=1>. There is nothing Mac
specific required, only that you be able to connect to it with a browser.
>
> I tried connecting to http://192.168.1.1 with four different browsers
> over the last couple days and the connection times out. What gives?
Since you don't have a manual, is this a used device? If so, maybe the
previous owner changed the (initial) setup parameters and you should
begin by resetting the box to its factory defaults.
Another possibility is that you have defective cables. The G5 is new
enough that it can auto-sense the gender of the connected equipment so
that shouldn't be a problem.
Bill
In my experience the router instructions are not dependent on platform.
I think they are the same regardless of Mac or Win PC. You access the
controls for the router via a web browser and follow the instructions
given.
Check the instructions for both the router and the DSL modem. Start with
everything unplugged/turned off. Plug in and turn on in the sequence
specified in the router instructions. Then use the web browser to set it
up. failure to follow the specified sequence may lead to things not
working right.
Fred McKenzie
> I tried connecting to http://192.168.1.1 with four different browsers
> over the last couple days and the connection times out. What gives?
GA-
You may have to manually set your computer's IP address to something in
that range, such as 192.168.1.2, just to do the setup. Afterwards, you
would set the computer back to using DHCP and let the Linksys supply your
IP.
If 192.168.1.1 doesn't work, you should download the manual as Tom Stiller
suggested.
Fred
James D. Beard
> I tried connecting to http://192.168.1.1 with four different browsers
> over the last couple days and the connection times out. What gives?
Do you have an ethernet cable plugged into your Mac ethernet
port? And is the other end plugged into one of the LAN ports?
(Do not plug it into the WAN port. That goes toward the
Internet.) Are you sure the cable is good? (And I am not
trying to be sarcastic. Sometimes simple things get put
together simply wrong.)
If that does not work, go to a machine that has access
to the internet and go to the router manufacturers site
to read/download the manual and see what it says. You may
need to reset to factory default specs and start from
scratch.
Cheers!
jim b.
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David C.
>
> I have a G5 desktop and Powerbook running 10.4.1, Linksys wired router
> (BEFSR41) and Earthlink ISP. I would like to have both connect to the
> internet with my DSL modem, but Linksys support is nonexistent.
No problem. But don't ask Earthlink for help. They won't take any
steps to prevent you from using a router, but they won't support you
with one either.
Here's the quick-and-dirty procedure:
1: Connect the output of your DSL modem to the WAN port on the router.
2: Connect your computers to the LAN ports on the router. If you have
more computers than LAN ports, put a hub/switch in between. (I do
this to attach six computers to the one LAN port on my BEFSR11
router.)
3: On the Mac, configure yourself for either DHCP (to get an IP address
from the router) or manually configure for something in the
192.168.1.* subnet. Be sure you don't use 192.168.1.0 (that's the
null address), 192.168.1.1 (that's the router's factory-default
address) or 192.168.1.255 (that's your subnet-broadcast address).
If you use manual configuration, set your subnet mask to
255.255.255.0 and your gateway to 192.168.1.1 (the router's default
address.)
4: Now, point a web browser at 192.168.1.1. You should be asked to log
in. Use the router's password. The manual will tell you the factory
default.
5: If you don't know the password, or if you can't connect, reset the
router back to its factory defaults. There is a button on the back
to do this. The manual should also tell you how to do this.
6: Once you're connected to the router via a web browser, use the web
forms to configure the router.
The most important configuration is the WAN connectivity. Set it up
for PPPoE (this is what Earthlink uses), using your Earthlink user ID
(your primary e-mail address) and password. Once this is filled in
and saved, you should be able to go to the router's status page and
click "connect" to connect to Earthlink. When the satus says you're
connected, you're done.
Check your manual for a description of all the other features you
can choose to use. I would recommend turning UPNP (Universal plug
and play) off, since it can be a security hole. If you're not going
to be running any servers, make sure there is no configured port
forwarding.
If you want to manually configure all the IP addresses on your LAN,
you can turn off the DHCP server.
7: Now configure your other computers like you did for the one you
configured the router with. Either set them up for DHCP (where it
will get addresses from the router) or for manual configuration.
I prefer manual configuration, because I sometimes use the LAN to
communicate among my six computers. This is much easier if the IP
addresses are hard-configured and therefore won't ever change.
8: You might want to download updated firmware from Linksys. But don't
install it unless you're having a problem. I have had some firmware
updates create problems (like one that somehow managed to clobber my
Mac's connectivity while allowing the PC's to access the internet.
I still have no idea how they managed to create that bug.)
-- David
Tacit
> I tried connecting to http://192.168.1.1 with four different browsers
> over the last couple days and the connection times out. What gives?
When a Linksys router ships from the factory, it is set by default to
the IP address 192.168.1.1 -- but it is possible to change this address.
If you try to browse to 192.168.1.1 and can't, thee are several
potential problems.
- Your Mac's network settings are wrong. You should set the Ethernet
TCP/IP settings to DHCP (right now, if you use a DSL modem, they are
probably set to PPPoE).
- The cable is bad, or the cable is plugged in to the wrong jack on the
router. It must go into a LAN, not a WAN, port on the router. It must be
a regular cable, not a crossover cable. You should see a "link" light on
the front of the router if the cable is good and a connection has been
made. If you plug in the cable and the light does not light up,
something's wrong.
- The router has been set to some funky settings (if it is used). Reset
it to the factory settings. There's a tiny hole on the front of the
router, with the reset switch behind it; use a bent paper clip to press
the reset switch.
- The router isn't working. When you turn it on, the lights should all
flash as it goes through its test cycle; if the lights don't flash, it
may be failing its self-test.
You do not need spacial software to use a router; and there are no Mac
instructions for setting it up because the router is set up the same way
no matter what kind of computer you use.
GA...@thelaunch.com
Tacit <tac...@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks to the last two posters I was able to get it set up and running!
I have little networking experience and I appreciate the help.
I had my mac set to PPPoe, which was why I couldn't get to the address
to configure the set up. After I set it to DHCP it all fell into place.
Thanks again!